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  • P2K
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    • Aug 2006
    • 8845

    #106
    Re: Edgerrin James has my respect

    Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
    The gap from HH to JJ is, what, 2 decades? JJ brought that same bravado & wild behavior to the Canes & Cowboys. There is no long link from Henderson to Johnson.

    You can't deny Miami wanted that image. That braggadocius, ostentatious, ganglike, bad boy mentality.

    And you act like I think all other programs are angels. Where did I say that? Stop arguing points that were never made. You're "debating" other things because you can't refute what I've been saying.

    Miami had that image because it was well earned & they sought it.
    Wait a minute. You're trying to say the Cowboys weren't the same ol' Cowboys right before Johnson showed up? Sadly mistaken.

    You are trying to use Miami as a scapegoat for Dallas' on & off the field ways, which is ignorant and unfair. Same stuff was going on at Valley Ranch.

    JJ made them dominant again and with the dominance came more spotlight and exposure. The winning escalated the bad stuff all over again. Jimmy Johnson didn't bring coke and strippers with him. It was already there and in use.

    The arguing continues because people like you still shout out the same dumb arguments. Who gives a **** if Miami embraced their swagger? Why does that make Miami college football's Lucifer...even when they don't deserve it (this decade)? Those other programs are no different than Miami just because they didn't show off on the field.

    All the stuff with Nebraska. Oklahoma and Nebraska were doing way more off the field than Miami. But they get away with it because their teams had more tradition and a little less black faces (deny all you want...this plays alot into it) on the roster. OU has a SI cover with one of their players handcuffed...yet Miami is the street thug, gangster program. Lawrence Phillips and many more before, during and after him were treating Lincoln like a convict training ground. But no...Miami, because they show off after a touchdown, is the ruin of all that is good.

    I'm not sitting here saying Miami was clean. It would be foolish to say so. But they weren't worse than other programs. And some programs trumped Miami by a good margin. Look up Florida's 24 arrests since Meyer came in. Look up Penn State's 46 players that were charged since '02. And people spelled doom for Paterno? Not anymore. They're a powerhouse again...but, at a cost.

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    • grunt
      Banned
      • Jul 2002
      • 9527

      #107
      Re: Edgerrin James has my respect

      Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
      The gap from HH to JJ is, what, 2 decades? JJ brought that same bravado & wild behavior to the Canes & Cowboys. There is no long link from Henderson to Johnson.

      You can't deny Miami wanted that image. That braggadocius, ostentatious, ganglike, bad boy mentality.

      And you act like I think all other programs are angels. Where did I say that? Stop arguing points that were never made. You're "debating" other things because you can't refute what I've been saying.

      Miami had that image because it was well earned & they sought it.
      The gap between HH and JJ was around 10 years. Winning bring that kind of attitude to teams.

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      • J0nnD0ugh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2003
        • 16602

        #108
        Re: Edgerrin James has my respect

        Originally posted by grunt
        The gap between HH and JJ was around 10 years. Winning bring that kind of attitude to teams.
        It brings confidence. It doesn't bring gangsta.
        Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
        I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
        -August 17, 1960
        Thanks, dookies!

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        • P2K
          Banned
          • Aug 2006
          • 8845

          #109
          Re: Edgerrin James has my respect

          Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
          It brings confidence. It doesn't bring gangsta.
          You talking out of your *** once again, sir. What exactly was "gangsta" about those Johnson-led Cowboys?

          And the continued use of the word "gangsta" is totally ignorant. Dallas were the St. Knights and Junior Warlords combined? Code words in full effect the past two days on OS.

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          • grunt
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 9527

            #110
            Re: Edgerrin James has my respect

            Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
            It brings confidence. It doesn't bring gangsta.
            huh? There were more rock stars than anything else. You are playing yourself on this topic. I bring facts and you bring negative labels.

            You know EJ was gangsta because he spent summers in the hot Georgia sun working and lifting watermelons on trucks. True story. Mike Irvin was "gangsta" because he was so poor that he would run home and eat all the cereal before his brother and sisters with water. The only food in the house was the cereal. Cut the toes of shoes, so they can fit because when you lose your father early you have to do "gangsta" things.

            Remember many of these guys aren't "American gangsta" but more American poverty. I guess Benny Blades said it the best when he made the comment about how some treat the canes as "plantation boys, white trash, and criminals" Class is a bitch.

            Peace

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            • J0nnD0ugh
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2003
              • 16602

              #111
              Re: Edgerrin James has my respect

              Originally posted by grunt
              huh? There were more rock stars than anything else. You are playing yourself on this topic. I bring facts and you bring negative labels.

              You know EJ was gangsta because he spent summers in the hot Georgia sun working and lifting watermelons on trucks. True story. Mike Irvin was "gangsta" because he was so poor that he would run home and eat all the cereal before his brother and sisters with water. The only food in the house was the cereal. Cut the toes of shoes, so they can fit because when you lose your father early you have to do "gangsta" things.

              Remember many of these guys aren't "American gangsta" but more American poverty. I guess Benny Blades said it the best when he made the comment about how some treat the canes as "plantation boys, white trash, and criminals" Class is a bitch.

              Peace
              I know you're not bringing up the Blades boys. Didn't one of them accidently shoot their cousin because he was trying to shoot the other brother?

              The only one getting "played" is you. I don't see why its so hard to accept Miami enjoyed their rep until it got out of hand. Their fans embraced it @ one time. You're just puposely leaving yourself blind to it. Be proud the Canes have moved past that.
              Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
              I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
              -August 17, 1960
              Thanks, dookies!

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              • NBASLAM2001
                Pro
                • Mar 2003
                • 669

                #112
                Re: Edgerrin James has my respect

                This use of "gangsta" in this thread is utterly ridiculous.
                "It's quite frightening to sing "Who's World Is This?" without proper enlightment"
                - Lecrae "It's Your World"

                Pro Sports: Falcons, Hawks
                College Sports: Canes, Blue Devils

                Are You A Gator *****?

                Real Gator Haters Drink Powerade.

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                • P2K
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 8845

                  #113
                  Re: Edgerrin James has my respect

                  Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
                  I know you're not bringing up the Blades boys. Didn't one of them accidently shoot their cousin because he was trying to shoot the other brother?

                  The only one getting "played" is you. I don't see why its so hard to accept Miami enjoyed their rep until it got out of hand. Their fans embraced it @ one time. You're just puposely leaving yourself blind to it. Be proud the Canes have moved past that.
                  And you're purposely being argumentative and ignorant on the subject. No one argues Miami took to being "renegades" and having an "us against the world" mentality. What we are arguing is the rep they have to this day, which is based on naivete, ignorance and people thinking with their *** and not their head. All of a sudden, you say they moved past that rep. You weren't saying that earlier. So, you're all over the place.

                  You can ignore my posts all you want, your thinking on this subject is utter crap. You can't stand Miami, that is fine. That's not the problem. The problem is you are veiling your dislike for Miami with this ignorant argument when all you should do is just come out and say you dislike Miami. Everyone would understand and move on.

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