Ginn on trading block

[splff3000]

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I guess this means that Miami is definitely taking Dez Bryant now with the 12th pick.

[Marino]

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I guess this means that Miami is definitely taking Dez Bryant now with the 12th pick.

Or Brandon Marshall

[legendkiller5]

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I'm not defending him because he's from OSU, there are a lot of players from OSU I can admit are not going to be that good. And since when can you judge talent based on one game?

Well that's the only logical explanation I can think of. One game? More like one example that stands among others.

[splff3000]

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Or Brandon Marshall

True. I wasn't thinking about that.

[legendkiller5]

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wwharton - nice find but means absolutely nothing, you could make one of those videos about any player, even legendary WR's and make them look stupid.

Yeah, there are a ton of those floating around about Andre Johnson.

[ODogg]

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Well that's the only logical explanation I can think of. One game? More like one example that stands among others.

I just think he'll do much better somewhere else. Difference of opinion. Much like how Moss went from garbage in Oakland to great when he had Brady. Not saying he's Randy Moss, just giving that as an example of how a change of scenery and an upgrade at QB can make a world of difference for a WR.

[legendkiller5]

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I just think he'll do much better somewhere else. Difference of opinion. Much like how Moss went from garbage in Oakland to great when he had Brady. Not saying he's Randy Moss, just giving that as an example of how a change of scenery and an upgrade at QB can make a world of difference for a WR.

That isn't a fair comparison seeing as Moss was an absolute beast in Minnesota, and Ginn hasn't been even close to that status.

[Marino]

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I just think he'll do much better somewhere else. Difference of opinion. Much like how Moss went from garbage in Oakland to great when he had Brady. Not saying he's Randy Moss, just giving that as an example of how a change of scenery and an upgrade at QB can make a world of difference for a WR.

He would have to change greatly. He is a horrible route runner, scared to catch the ball in traffic, horrible hands. I mean, he had the most accurate QB in NFL history to him and he still made himself look like a fool.

[Cyros]

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That isn't a fair comparison seeing as Moss was an absolute beast in Minnesota, and Ginn hasn't been even close to that status.

Moss also still had a 1,000 yard season his first year in Oakland.

[pw_1016]

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Since when is Chad Pennington and Chad Henne "terrible"?

+1.

Chad P. is not terrible--the knock on him is that he doesnt have great arm strength, but he has won a lot of games with that "weak" arm,right?

Henne had a decent year too. Great size with a big arm. He is only getting better too.

I have always been a Ted Ginn fan (even though I cant stand OSU--have like a couple of there players here and there but dont root for the team). I hope that he can turn his career around. I love watching him run back kicks ..A team should use him in the wildcat, though.

[wwharton]

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wwharton - nice find but means absolutely nothing, you could make one of those videos about any player, even legendary WR's and make them look stupid.

Dog (literally, lol) I didn't find the clip, I just laughed at it. My cousin and one of my best friends are huge Phin fans and I've had the pleasure of having Ginn on one of my fantasy teams. I've seen more of him than I care to admit. If you don't believe, you should go looking for some footage of your own. He's been outplayed by 2 or 3 no name WRs on his own team. QB play has not been the problem.

[ODogg]

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That isn't a fair comparison seeing as Moss was an absolute beast in Minnesota, and Ginn hasn't been even close to that status.

I specifically said I wasn't comparing them, that I was using Moss as an example of the situation.

[legendkiller5]

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I specifically said I wasn't comparing them, that I was using Moss as an example of the situation.

Which isn't a good one.

[SouthernBrick]

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+1.

Chad P. is not terrible--the knock on him is that he doesnt have great arm strength, but he has won a lot of games with that "weak" arm,right?

Henne had a decent year too. Great size with a big arm. He is only getting better too.

I have always been a Ted Ginn fan (even though I cant stand OSU--have like a couple of there players here and there but dont root for the team). I hope that he can turn his career around. I love watching him run back kicks ..A team should use him in the wildcat, though.

+1. Henne didn't suck it up or nothing last year and I think he will get better. Henne and Chad P. are good QBs IMO. Chad P. was not great (even after taking a team from 1-15 to winning the division) but, good. Maybe Ginn does need a change of scenery but, I don't believe the QB's he played with in MIA had anything to do with his lack of production.

[ODogg]

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Which isn't a good one.

It is a good one because you understood what I meant by it even though you tried to do what I specifically said not to do, compare the individual players. You know exactly what I meant with that post so quit nitpicking.