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  • bkrich83
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    #16
    Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

    Originally posted by Jarodd21
    You apparently missed the point. I am not a huge fan of Weddle. So I find those players mediocre.

    Although Weddle was 2nd team all pro last year.
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    • Jarodd21
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      #17
      Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

      Originally posted by bkrich83
      You apparently missed the point. I am not a huge fan of Weddle. So I find those players mediocre.

      Although Weddle was 2nd team all pro last year.
      I added more to the post. I just had a quick reaction when I first seen it. Haha! Weddle is good but I don't think he's better then any of those guys ahead of him..
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      • bkrich83
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        #18
        Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

        Originally posted by Jarodd21
        I added more to the post. I just had a quick reaction when I first seen it. Haha! Weddle is good but I don't think he's better then any of those guys ahead of him..
        Weddle was an all pro. So not in top 15 is a stretch. And 5-10 on this list I would not take one of those guys over Weddle. It's a mediocre list at best.

        If you want to believe you are more knowledgeable than me. I'll live.
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        • bkrich83
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          #19
          Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

          Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
          I feel Atogwe belongs in the bottom half of the top 10.
          I think Atogwe is one of the more overrated players in the league. His production does not match his rep.

          Whom ever said Earl Thomas will be soon. Agreed. He was slow to develop as expected out of a rookie on a developing defense. His physical skills stand out though and he seems to be much more instinctual than his rookie counterpart in SF Taylor Mays.
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          • Jarodd21
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            #20
            Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

            Originally posted by bkrich83
            Weddle was an all pro. So not in top 15 is a stretch. And 5-10 on this list I would not take one of those guys over Weddle. It's a mediocre list at best.

            If you want to believe you are more knowledgeable than me. I'll live.
            Call it what you want. He's not better then anybody in the top 10 and I believe most people would agree. But its your opinion and I'll leave it at that..
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            • bkrich83
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              #21
              Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

              Originally posted by Jarodd21
              Call it what you want. He's not better then anybody in the top 10 and I believe most people would agree. But its your opinion and I'll leave it at that..
              So for Griffin for example. What exactly does he do better than Weddle?
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              • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
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                #22
                Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

                Originally posted by bkrich83
                I think Atogwe is one of the more overrated players in the league. His production does not match his rep.

                Whom ever said Earl Thomas will be soon. Agreed. He was slow to develop as expected out of a rookie on a developing defense. His physical skills stand out though and he seems to be much more instinctual than his rookie counterpart in SF Taylor Mays.
                Yea I don't think hes great or anything but I don't think these guys

                Michael Griffin
                Donte Whitner
                B. Meriweather
                Antrel Rolle
                LaRon Landry
                Antoine Bethea

                are any better then him is all.

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                • Jarodd21
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                  #23
                  Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

                  Originally posted by bkrich83
                  So for Griffin for example. What exactly does he do better than Weddle?
                  He's a better tackler and he's better in coverage. More athletic and is an all around better player in my opinion. He had a down year from his first few years in the league but If I had to choose between the two I would definitely choose Griffin. He was an all-pro too since you trying to throw that card out there. Everybody on that list has been an all-pro. haha! But thats my opinion. If you like Weddle better thats on you but I would rather have Griffin on my team before Weddle.
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                  • Jarodd21
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                    #24
                    Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

                    Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                    Yea I don't think hes great or anything but I don't think these guys

                    Michael Griffin
                    Donte Whitner
                    B. Meriweather
                    Antrel Rolle
                    LaRon Landry
                    Antoine Bethea

                    are any better then him is all.
                    I agree Atogwe is about on the same level as those guys.
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                    • bkrich83
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                      Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

                      Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                      Yea I don't think hes great or anything but I don't think these guys

                      Michael Griffin
                      Donte Whitner
                      B. Meriweather
                      Antrel Rolle
                      LaRon Landry
                      Antoine Bethea

                      are any better then him is all.
                      That's my point. Those six are mediocre players at best. Not one of them is a standout and each one of them has a major hole in his game.

                      Landry for example is very physical and I think that's why he gets the rep he does. But he's terrible in space, misses a ton of tackles and you can't lock him up in man coverage on a slot or a flexed TE.
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                      • bkrich83
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                        Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

                        Originally posted by Jarodd21
                        He's a better tackler and he's better in coverage. More athletic and is an all around better player in my opinion. He had a down year from his first few years in the league but If I had to choose between the two I would definitely choose Griffin. He was an all-pro too since you trying to throw that card out there. Everybody on that list has been an all-pro. haha! But thats my opinion. If you like Weddle better thats on you but I would rather have Griffin on my team before Weddle.

                        I have no idea how you could come to the conclusion he's better in coverage or a better tackler. Have you ever actually watched either of these two players.

                        Wow.

                        Ask Dallas Clark who'd he would rather face.

                        Lol. Better all around. Ok.

                        Griffins a terrible player.
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                        • kingkilla56
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                          #27
                          Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

                          Originally posted by bkrich83
                          That's my point. Those six are mediocre players at best. Not one of them is a standout and each one of them has a major hole in his game.

                          Landry for example is very physical and I think that's why he gets the rep he does. But he's terrible in space, misses a ton of tackles and you can't lock him up in man coverage on a slot or a flexed TE.
                          So you're saying that less than 4 safeties in the league are worth anything?
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                          • Jarodd21
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                            #28
                            Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

                            Originally posted by bkrich83
                            I have no idea how you could come to the conclusion he's better in coverage or a better tackler. Have you ever actually watched either of these two players.

                            Wow.

                            Ask Dallas Clark who'd he would rather face.
                            I watch everybody and every team. I told you I'm not stuck to one team.. But like I said its my opinion. I would rather have Griffin. You can keep Weddle..
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                            • Jarodd21
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                              #29
                              Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

                              Originally posted by kingkilla56
                              So you're saying that less than 4 safeties in the league are worth anything?

                              Yea he threw the mediocre word around like those guys are scrubs.. Haha! All of them are good safeties. They may not be the elite like the first 4 but there all good even his boy Weddle. I think he's good just not better then anyone in the top 10 but thats just me..
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                              • bkrich83
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                                #30
                                Re: Top 10 Safeties, according to ESPN.com

                                Originally posted by kingkilla56
                                So you're saying that less than 4 safeties in the league are worth anything?
                                I am saying on this list. After #4 there's a lot of mediocrity. At least on this list.
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