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  • jbd345
    MVP
    • Apr 2011
    • 2435

    #46
    Re: Good player, bad team?

    Stevie Johnson and Ryan Fitzpatrick of the Bills. But the team is improving, but when you have the Jets and Pats in the same division its highly unlikely they'll make the playoffs in the next few years unfortunately.

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    • Sanchez_Mareno
      MVP
      • Feb 2009
      • 3485

      #47
      Re: Good player, bad team?

      Originally posted by mestevo
      I don't know, from reading the thread I didn't get the impression this was supposed to be 'lets name every good player that isn't on the 3-4 best teams' if 'not a dynasty' qualifies a team as 'bad'.

      The 2010 Chiefs were a good team, and it's an accomplishment for Bowe to have done as well as he did on a run-first team that led the league in rushing.

      If he didn't develop some stonehands for a stretch he'd have challenged some of Moss's records.
      Thats a bit of a stretch isn't it?
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      • MARTZball
        The Mad Genius
        • Apr 2009
        • 364

        #48
        Re: Good player, bad team?

        Steven Jackson - St Louis Rams.

        /thread.
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        • mestevo
          Gooney Goo Goo
          • Apr 2010
          • 19556

          #49
          Originally posted by Sanchez_Mareno
          Thats a bit of a stretch isn't it?
          Is it? Bowe had 14 TDs as of week 12... Record is 23. He even had 3 of those games with no TDs. I never expected him to break the record, but certainly expected him to join the logjam at 17 or 18, and best case approach or beat Rice's 20. Instead he caught only 1 TD and dropped a number of others those final 5 weeks.

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          • N51_rob
            Faceuary!
            • Jul 2003
            • 14805

            #50
            Re: Good player, bad team?

            Top of my head.

            Patrick Willis


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            Santana Moss. He is on the downward spiral of his career, but he was a really good player on a bad teams and I feel bad that his last few seasons in Washington were what they were.
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            • Sanchez_Mareno
              MVP
              • Feb 2009
              • 3485

              #51
              Re: Good player, bad team?

              Originally posted by mestevo
              Is it? Bowe had 14 TDs as of week 12... Record is 23. He even had 3 of those games with no TDs. I never expected him to break the record, but certainly expected him to join the logjam at 17 or 18, and best case approach or beat Rice's 20. Instead he caught only 1 TD and dropped a number of others those final 5 weeks.
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              • RumbleStud
                Rookie
                • Oct 2010
                • 113

                #52
                Re: Good player, bad team?

                Originally posted by MARTZball
                Steven Jackson - St Louis Rams.

                /thread.
                haha agreed. Awesome football player. fast, strong, never complains when he'd have every right to. Practically and literally carrying this team since he got drafted. I think of Barry when I watch Rams games. Bradford's lookin good though.

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                • wwharton
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 26949

                  #53
                  Re: Good player, bad team?

                  Originally posted by pw_1016
                  The Chiefs have had one good year out of the last who knows how many ..so that are not that good of a team to me. One good year does not all of a sudden make them a dynasty or make them relevant.
                  Eric Berry was a rookie. His entire existence in the NFL has been on a playoff team.

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                  • canes21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 22908

                    #54
                    Re: Good player, bad team?

                    Brian Orakpo, London Fletcher, Chris Cooley, and Ryan Torain. Torain is debatable, the other three are definitely not.
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                    • wwharton
                      *ll St*r
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 26949

                      #55
                      Re: Good player, bad team?

                      Originally posted by canes21
                      Brian Orakpo, London Fletcher, Chris Cooley, and Ryan Torain. Torain is debatable, the other three are definitely not.
                      I don't agree with this either besides maybe Cooley and Fletcher. Torain isn't even that good... he's had injury problems throughout his career including his one year on the skins. Orakpo has been in the league for 2 years... the first on a top 5 defense if I'm not mistaken.

                      Seems this thread is turning into just picking which teams to call bad and then naming players on them?

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                      • bowdenfsu52
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 21

                        #56
                        Re: Good player, bad team?

                        lee evans- bills
                        karlos dansby-dolphins
                        joe thomas-browns
                        josh cribbs-browns
                        chad johnson-bengals
                        phillip rivers-chargers
                        elvis dumervil-broncos
                        stephen jackson-rams
                        donovan mcnab-redskins
                        felix jones-cowboys
                        miles austin-cowboys


                        this really could depend on what you consider a bad team because that really depends.

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                        • wwharton
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 26949

                          #57
                          Re: Good player, bad team?

                          Originally posted by bowdenfsu52
                          lee evans- bills
                          karlos dansby-dolphins
                          joe thomas-browns
                          josh cribbs-browns
                          chad johnson-bengals
                          phillip rivers-chargers
                          elvis dumervil-broncos
                          stephen jackson-rams
                          donovan mcnab-redskins
                          felix jones-cowboys
                          miles austin-cowboys


                          this really could depend on what you consider a bad team because that really depends.
                          Not sure how you got Phillip Rivers no matter your definition.

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                          • N51_rob
                            Faceuary!
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 14805

                            #58
                            Re: Good player, bad team?

                            Beat me to it. The what 4 time defending AFC West champs are a bad team now?
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                            • Kevin26385
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                              • May 2004
                              • 5147

                              #59
                              Re: Good player, bad team?

                              Calvin Johnson-This is changing though with the Lions getting better (However...it is still the Lions)

                              Steven Jackson-Feel terrible for him...I have a lot of respect for him never complaining about his team. He just shuts up and continues to run over people.

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                              • lilbiggio
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 2105

                                #60
                                Re: Good player, bad team?

                                Originally posted by Sanchez_Mareno
                                Adrian Peterson
                                This...

                                too much talent for the Vikings to be the worst team in the division last season.

                                My vote would have been Arian Foster. It was real fun watching him run the ball, then watch the horrible Texans Defense lose the game down the stretch. Texans probably average though to many of you guys, but to me Foster should be on the list just because he was a Elite player on a average/almost bad team.

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