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  • dubcity
    Hall Of Fame
    • May 2012
    • 17872

    #34621
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by cima
    Can't say I'm surprised but this is effectively the last we'll see or hear from Gruden for the rest of his life unless you go to his Twitter or something cause he definitely won't be hired to be on TV by anyone.
    In a few years I could see him being a talking head somewhere, if he wants. There's too many places to go for him to be gone forever. There are still plenty of people with disposable income that would be interested in hearing him talk football.

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    • IlluminatusUIUC
      MVP
      • Jan 2010
      • 2667

      #34622
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Originally posted by ggsimmonds
      It doesn't kill the story though. Instead he gets kicked out the door and its the headline. A very good week of football overshadowed by Gruden's emails and resignation is not what the NFL wanted.

      And now they have to deal with fielding questions relating to the culture of the NFL and as pack said, entertain convos they would rather avoid.

      Those questions were going to happen anyway, because this was uncovered as part of an investigation into Washington's toxic culture. But nobody's talking about Washington now, everyone is talking about Gruden. And now that Gruden's gone, it's going to run its course in a day or two and people will move on to w/e else. If we were talking about Dan Snyder - he's not going anywhere so neither would the story.

      Last edited by IlluminatusUIUC; 10-12-2021, 03:27 PM.
      Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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      • JayBee74
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 22989

        #34623
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Never liked the guy on Monday Night Football. He consistently got annoyed at personal fouls, roughing the passer, and unnecessary roughness penalties that he thought shouldn’t have gotten called. This lines up with his pro-concussion stance.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #34624
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          If people move on from Gruden, it’s because people are going to be curious to see what the other emails say and I’m not talking about the ones he sent.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • adriano
            MVP
            • Aug 2003
            • 2808

            #34625
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Albert Breer said this..

            Also fascinating: How quickly the Gruden emails have become public, while the all aspects of the league’s investigation into Dan Snyder have remained completely private.

            Lesson for everyone in the difference between the people who cash the checks, and those who write them.

            — Not defending Gruden at all. Just wondering if Goodell \ NFL did this to take the focus off of
            Snyder.
            Last edited by adriano; 10-12-2021, 04:50 PM.

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            • adriano
              MVP
              • Aug 2003
              • 2808

              #34626
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by cima
              Can't say I'm surprised but this is effectively the last we'll see or hear from Gruden for the rest of his life unless you go to his Twitter or something cause he definitely won't be hired to be on TV by anyone.
              No, he will be a guest speaker at the Republican National Convention.
              LOL.

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              • reyes the roof
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2009
                • 11525

                #34627
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by adriano
                Albert Breer said this..

                Also fascinating: How quickly the Gruden emails have become public, while the all aspects of the league’s investigation into Dan Snyder have remained completely private.

                Lesson for everyone in the difference between the people who cash the checks, and those who write them.

                — Not defending Gruden at all. Just wondering if Goodell \ NFL did this to take the focus off of
                Snyder.
                Was there really any focus on Snyder? It was a great weekend of football that ended with a great MNF comeback that we’d all be talking about if it weren’t for the Gruden stuff. I don’t think anyone would be talking about Snyder either way. If the NFL is behind this they’re shooting themselves in the foot, which is entirely possible

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                • TheMatrix31
                  RF
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 52901

                  #34628
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Let's get all the emails for the coaches, owners, GMs, writers/media, etc out now. Obviously he's not the only one.

                  Just do the purge now. Let's start with the clean slate from now and focus on football from here on out.

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                  • ggsimmonds
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11235

                    #34629
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by adriano
                    Albert Breer said this..

                    Also fascinating: How quickly the Gruden emails have become public, while the all aspects of the league’s investigation into Dan Snyder have remained completely private.

                    Lesson for everyone in the difference between the people who cash the checks, and those who write them.

                    — Not defending Gruden at all. Just wondering if Goodell \ NFL did this to take the focus off of
                    Snyder.
                    It would be amazingly stupid on multiple fronts.

                    Here's what is probably going on right now. If you are a sports journalist trying to make a name for your self you are doing some investigative journalism right now.

                    You are asking your sources what else that report revealed. You're going to pull that thread and try to find out how common this type of stuff is.

                    I'm going to take a wild guess and say the league office doesn't want the answer to that question made public.

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                    • reyes the roof
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 11525

                      #34630
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Gruden is getting removed from the Tampa ring of honor

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                      • DamnYanks2
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 20794

                        #34631
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        I hold no love for Gruden. But offensive emails get a man fired and dragged through the mud. But D Watson still is employed? What's worse offensive email's or sexually assaulting women? That seems a bit more misogynistic.

                        Then you got Em playing in the super bowl "king of gay bashing" and has said so many things about women it's not even worth repeating.

                        Gruden is just a easy scapegoat. I'm just saying.

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                        Last edited by DamnYanks2; 10-12-2021, 07:27 PM.

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                        • slickdtc
                          Grayscale
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 17125

                          #34632
                          NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                          I hold no love for Gruden. But offensive emails get a man fired and dragged through the mud. But D Watson still is employed? What's worse offensive email's or sexually assaulting women? That seems a bit more misogynistic.

                          Then you got Em playing in the super bowl "king of gay bashing" and has said so many things about women it's not even worth repeating.

                          Gruden is just a easy scapegoat. I'm just saying.

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                          One person gets made the example of, chewed up and spit out. Kaep got blackballed for kneeling while others did the same following his lead, hell the whole league made a show of it... right or wrong, that’s how it goes for some reason. The media, social media/the public, the league, they all play a part in It and pressure each other in to making decisions they wouldn’t make on their own or have blatantly ignored. What Gruden did and said was foul, but it is interesting that people have been physically assaulted by players (coaches and team personnel guilty of it too, probably) yet they’re let back in. I don’t know where the line is, I’m not sure anyone does because it gets drawn arbitrarily and on a case by case basis, for better or worse.

                          At the end of the day, it’s one thing to make a mistake. It’s another to have example after example of you just being a straight up dickhead so I’m shedding no tears for Gruden. I wouldn’t have cared if Kareem Hunt didn’t get to make a comeback or if Watson doesn’t either. Once you cross a certain line, whatever happens to you is what you deserve. It may not be fair, but you’re at the mercy of whatever and whoever at that point.
                          Last edited by slickdtc; 10-12-2021, 07:48 PM.
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                          • SmashMan
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 9698

                            #34633
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                            But
                            There we go.

                            You know, you can say you disagree with the consequences here without bringing up other people to try and deflect from actually saying it.

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                            • King_B_Mack
                              All Star
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 24450

                              #34634
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                              I hold no love for Gruden. But offensive emails get a man fired and dragged through the mud. But D Watson still is employed? What's worse offensive email's or sexually assaulting women? That seems a bit more misogynistic.

                              Then you got Em playing in the super bowl "king of gay bashing" and has said so many things about women it's not even worth repeating.

                              Gruden is just a easy scapegoat. I'm just saying.

                              Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk
                              Allegedly. Pretty significant difference there. We don't know what ultimately happened with the Watson cases. There's no smoking guns anywhere at all there. However we have the culprit here. We KNOW Gruden did this because it's his account and he's already admitted to this. Beyond that, there's a difference between a guy resigning and looking for somebody else to do something.

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                              • TheShizNo1
                                Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 26341

                                #34635
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                                Allegedly. Pretty significant difference there. We don't know what ultimately happened with the Watson cases. There's no smoking guns anywhere at all there. However we have the culprit here. We KNOW Gruden did this because it's his account and he's already admitted to this. Beyond that, there's a difference between a guy resigning and looking for somebody else to do something.
                                Man, I don't even know why you gave that post the time.

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