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  • OSUFan_88
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    • Jul 2004
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    #76
    Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

    The minute Trent Richardson steps onto an NFL field, he's a top 10 running back in the NFL, perhaps better.

    His short height, incredible vision, strength, and good speed with great hands and amazing blocking ability make him an absolute stud. There is no part of his game that needs work, he can do everything at an NFL level already.

    His first game at Alabama, he was probably able to play in the NFL.
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    • cjonesfan921
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      • Jan 2005
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      #77
      Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

      Originally posted by OSUFan_88
      The minute Trent Richardson steps onto an NFL field, he's a top 10 running back in the NFL, perhaps better.

      His short height, incredible vision, strength, and good speed with great hands and amazing blocking ability make him an absolute stud. There is no part of his game that needs work, he can do everything at an NFL level already.

      His first game at Alabama, he was probably able to play in the NFL.
      Exactly.


      Yes RB are a dime a dozen, but, not this RB. Almost any other year, he's 1st pick, and deservedly so. Some team will get a STUD.

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      • Jasong7777
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        • May 2005
        • 6415

        #78
        Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

        Originally posted by cjonesfan921
        Exactly.


        Yes RB are a dime a dozen, but, not this RB. Almost any other year, he's 1st pick, and deservedly so. Some team will get a STUD.
        For the Browns sake, or whoever drafts him, I hope you are right.
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        • Vaporub83
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          • Aug 2009
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          #79
          Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

          Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
          That be a bad decision seeing as he's the best back with a combination of size, speed an production since Adrian Peterson.

          Tannerhill is going to be bad. Gabbert bad if he has to play better. Just like Gabbert he hasn't really shown much yet he's gonna go in the first round.

          LaMichael James has character concerns an will be nothing more then Darren Sproils at best. The 2nd best Hb in this draft is Miller. Why? Because I'm a Homer an he's from Miami which produces NFL HB like clockwork. He's blazing fast with great vision an doesn't have the fumbling problems that Wilson has. He needs to add some weight but not too much.
          Even if LaMichael is "just" Darren Sproles is that a bad thing? If you have watched a game Sproles was playing he is no doubt a difference maker. Against the 49ers in the playoffs he played a huge part in that great finish.

          Originally posted by ThePPL
          Don't forget about Preston Parker. He had more receiving yards and receptions than Briscoe or Benn.

          I really think the Bucs have so many needs that if the Vikings do pick Claiborne, it wouldn't be necessary for them to trade down.

          The Bucs gave up the league's most rushing yards per game last season so they could use a guy like Luke Kuechly or Fletcher Cox (he might improve their pass rushing game as well).

          There's a possibility that Jacksonville would want to take Stephon Gilmore as their 7th pick so Tampa should take him early before it's too late.

          Also the Bucs have chosen so far not to re-sign Sean Jones, so Mark Barron could be considered a selection.
          Had a brain fart there, forgot about Parker. I don't see them taking Fletcher Cox, there is already a log jam at DT McCoy, Miller, & Price all fairly young. The Kuechly pick is a strong possibility since Tampa didn't resign Geno Hayes they could use another OLB. Either way Tampa's first pick should be in the back 7 on defense.
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          • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
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            • Dec 2008
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            #80
            A Darren Sproles is not worth a first round pick. It's a weapon sure but unless your team doesn't have any glaring needs, you don't take a Sproles clone in the first. If he can be better then that then sure. You can find a weapon anywhere in the draft. When your picking in the first your looking for a starter or future starter. Not just a weapon IMO.

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            • ProfessaPackMan
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              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #81
              Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

              Much easier to take a RB with a Top 3 pick now because of the Rookie Wage Scale, so the contracts won't be as high as they were before. But if this was under the old CBA and there was no Rookie Wage Scale, then you'd be an idiot to take a RB in the Top 3 because they are a dime a dozen and because of the short career span. Why would I give you $35-$45 Mil upfront when in about 6-7 years, you'd start to be on the decline anyway?

              They do an I agree but he's the best Hb to enter the draft since Peterson. That turned out great for the Vikes so who knows, but if you can be as good as Peterson then you deserve a top 5 selection.
              Peterson went 7th and also went to a team that had one of, if not the best O-Lines in the league at the time. Not to mention, he was single handedly carrying his teams to wins as well.
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              • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                • Dec 2006
                • 17294

                #82
                Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

                Originally posted by Vaporub83
                I don't really see Tampa selecting Blackmon, WR is not a huge need for them, with Jackson, Williams, Benn, & Brisco(they fell in love with him last year). I think they will drop back probably look to get Gilmore or potentially a RT if they drop back far enough
                And Tampa was also in love with Raymond Webber last year but he got hurt before he even had a chance to play a pre-season game. Supposedly he looked better than all of our other WRs in training camp, and even though he was undrafted and was hurt for the entire season, they kept him on the roster.
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                • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
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                  • Dec 2008
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                  #83
                  Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                  Much easier to take a RB with a Top 3 pick now because of the Rookie Wage Scale, so the contracts won't be as high as they were before. But if this was under the old CBA and there was no Rookie Wage Scale, then you'd be an idiot to take a RB in the Top 3 because they are a dime a dozen and because of the short career span. Why would I give you $35-$45 Mil upfront when in about 6-7 years, you'd start to be on the decline anyway?


                  Peterson went 7th and also went to a team that had one of, if not the best O-Lines in the league at the time. Not to mention, he was single handedly carrying his teams to wins as well.
                  Yea most teams don't really need a Hb. That's why he was drafted so low, he also had durability issues at Oklahoma and like you said with a short life span, why pay that much. People also questioned the Vikings taking him that year because they just signed Chester Taylor too. My thing is if your an elite talent and a need then the then your deserving of a top 5 pick. Like you also said Peterson carried that Vikings team to wins. Richardson will do the same for the Browns and make Colt look better. He still isn't a franchise qb imo but he will look much better.

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                  • ThePPL
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                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1030

                    #84
                    Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

                    Originally posted by Vaporub83
                    Had a brain fart there, forgot about Parker. I don't see them taking Fletcher Cox, there is already a log jam at DT McCoy, Miller, & Price all fairly young. The Kuechly pick is a strong possibility since Tampa didn't resign Geno Hayes they could use another OLB. Either way Tampa's first pick should be in the back 7 on defense.
                    It will all depend on how confident the Bucs feel about Brian Price and Roy Miller because McCoy was the only good defensive tackle that played for them last year despite landing on IR early.

                    And for a log jam they sure aren't being effective since Tampa has been in the bottom 5 in allowed rushing yards per game for the past 2 seasons.

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                    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                      • Dec 2006
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                      #85
                      Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

                      Originally posted by ThePPL
                      It will all depend on how confident the Bucs feel about Brian Price and Roy Miller because McCoy was the only good defensive tackle that played for them last year despite landing on IR early.

                      And for a log jam they sure aren't being effective since Tampa has been in the bottom 5 in allowed rushing yards per game for the past 2 seasons.
                      In their defense though, basically every starter on that team missed games last year. I think the entire defensive line, 2/3 linebackers, and like 3/5 defensive backs weren't supposed to actually be playing lol.

                      When the Bucs defense was healthy last year, they completely shut down Michael Turner and the Falcons offense, and did the same to the Saints as well.
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                      • bigbob
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                        • Sep 2007
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                        #86
                        Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

                        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                        Peterson went 7th and also went to a team that had one of, if not the best O-Lines in the league at the time. Not to mention, he was single handedly carrying his teams to wins as well.
                        But you forget that Peterson was suppose to be a top 5 pick but because of his injury concern with the collarbone, teams passed on him because they didn't think he was truly 100%. The only teams that wouldn't have taken him, had they believe he was fully healthy, would've been the Browns and Redskins, both whom at the time had star running backs (Portis and James respectively).
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                        • Vaporub83
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                          • Aug 2009
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                          #87
                          Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

                          Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                          A Darren Sproles is not worth a first round pick. It's a weapon sure but unless your team doesn't have any glaring needs, you don't take a Sproles clone in the first. If he can be better then that then sure. You can find a weapon anywhere in the draft. When your picking in the first your looking for a starter or future starter. Not just a weapon IMO.
                          2nd running back is not always a first round pick. Think last year's draft the 2nd RB off the board went in the 2nd round I think overall pick 37.
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                          • Vaporub83
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                            • Aug 2009
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                            #88
                            Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

                            Originally posted by ThePPL
                            It will all depend on how confident the Bucs feel about Brian Price and Roy Miller because McCoy was the only good defensive tackle that played for them last year despite landing on IR early.

                            And for a log jam they sure aren't being effective since Tampa has been in the bottom 5 in allowed rushing yards per game for the past 2 seasons.
                            Like THAT Guy said they had a ton of injuries last season. Either way you can't spend 3 first round picks and 2 second round picks on the Defensive line.

                            Don't forget they did sign Okoyi this offseason as well. I know he isn't a top flight talent but he becomes the 4th cog in a 2 team DT rotation
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                            • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                              • Dec 2006
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                              #89
                              Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

                              Originally posted by Vaporub83
                              Like THAT Guy said they had a ton of injuries last season. Either way you can't spend 3 first round picks and 2 second round picks on the Defensive line.

                              Don't forget they did sign Okoyi this offseason as well. I know he isn't a top flight talent but he becomes the 4th cog in a 2 team DT rotation
                              Yeah, I like our D-line this year. It's the back 7 that has me worried, especially if Talib once again can't play/we cut him.
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                              • muggins
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                                • May 2003
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                                #90
                                Re: 2012 NFL Draft Thread.

                                I haven't watched the kid at all except for YouTube clip shows - is Ryan Tannehill for real? Charlie Casserly speculated last night that the Bills would take him at #10. He only started a season and a half at QB...

                                All I'm hearing about him is draft buzzwords - really hard to cut through. Bills fans are saying 'IF HE'S A FRANCHISE QB AND HE'S AVAILABLE YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIM!' Others, like me, are skeptical. Especially if the Dolphins pass on him at 7... although perhaps their President will ask Tannehill if his mother was a street-walker and that'll turn them off.

                                Just seems like he's a hanger-on hyped up by the media as a third option when there are two clear options this year at QB. I wouldn't put it past Buddy and Chandler after some of their previous draft picks, though. Wily: check. Spread offense potential: check. From a southern school: check. Ughhhh.
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