Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

[jeremym480]

Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

It's pretty obvious that Brown just doesn't want to see another Cleveland runningback in the spotlight.

[Maine6054]

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Jim Brown was a great player for the Cleveland Browns.

Jim Brown was a wife beating, bitter old man who was a part of the regime who almost brought down the Cleveland Browns after their rebuild.

Quite frankly, I don't give a damn about what Jim Brown says anymore. He is irrelevant to me. If he still had his position with the team, then I'd be pissed.

Also, for TR, he's a Ray Rice type player. He does everything at an extremely high level. He has the potential to be the best all around back in the NFL. Marshall Faulk esqe.

And he does have a pretty darn good offensive line to run behind. If Weeden can manage to challenge defenses and open them up, then TR is going to be fine.

I think TR can definitely be compared to Ray rice and Marshall Faulk he has the running ability of Ray rice and the football knowledge and catching ability of Marshall Faulk that is a great combination

[nWo]

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Trent Richardson can turn into a real good player if the Browns develop a passing game. Weeden should help, at least compared to Colt McCoy. The Browns have a good, young offensive line, and if Cleveland can get a legitimate passing game, defenses won't be able to focus on Richardson all game.

[CW McGraw]

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Doesn't Jim Brown despise the current Browns franchise? I recall him being invited to some event a few years back by Cleveland and turning the Browns down.

[Klue516]

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Yes, Of course Jim brown is Subject to an opinion but when you are considered a legend your not suppose to talk down on up and coming players. i think Jim brown has some kind of ego problem

He's just giving his opinion. Ask him about Fred Taylor or Adrian Peterson and he'll state the exact opposite.

[mmorg]

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Jim could really run, but he had so many attempts! he had so many attempts per game meaning he would allot of time's get 35+. even when he had a bad game he would get all those attempts and still get allot of yards and that's because eventually with all those attempts the short yardage would add up. but in todays game no one is gonna Average all those attempts, imagine if Maurice Jones-Drew (who led the league in rushing) had that many attempts. but i still think Jim brown is ONE of the best players in the NFL,

Why do all of his attempts matter when he holds the all-time Yards Per Attempt record?

[OSUFan_88]

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Doesn't Jim Brown despise the current Browns franchise? I recall him being invited to some event a few years back by Cleveland and turning the Browns down.

Yes. Mike Holmgren came in and fired him because he was a crappy adviser to the owner. Then, when they retired his number in the ring of honor, he refused to be honored because Holmgren was going to be there.

[da ThRONe]

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Yes, Of course Jim brown is Subject to an opinion but when you are considered a legend your not suppose to talk down on up and coming players. i think Jim brown has some kind of ego problem

If this guy has a history of hating(which it appears he does) than why pay it any attention? If his evalutions are based on his ego they shouldn't see the light of day.

[IlliniM1ke]

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He's the only offensive weapon on that pitiful Browns offense. Squarely put: Trent Richardson is going to HAVE to be special if he intends to succeed. I just can't imagine the guy excelling on a roster completely void of offensive talent, a rookie QB who will be too old before the team is even competitive, and a division that makes its living on stout defense.

If Richardson can come in and get defenses to respect the run then Weeden's job becomes easier, we already have a solid D (need to improve against the run but they should), if Richardson has the impact many expect and Weeden can be solid the team can compete.

I think another strong draft next year the Browns can be ready to compete for a wild card (don't think they'll get it but I think they will get one but they can be in the race), and by the following year finally be ready to compete for the division.

Weeden won't be too old by then and I find it funny a Cowboys fan is one to say a QB starting out at 28 is too old, look back at your own teams history, Roger Staubach didn't start his first NFL game until he was 27, he didn't become a full time starter until he was 31 (did start 10 games when he was 29 but then only 4 when he was 30) and he went on to have a Hall of Fame career.

Now I'm by no means calling Weeden Staubach but he definitely isn't too old to have a successful career, if the Browns continue to draft well like they have the past couple years under Holmgrem and Heckert this team is right on schedule with their 5 year plan.

[slickdtc]

Didn't Kurt Warner start out as an old rookie too? It seems starting out old for a rook isn't so bad. I don't see it as a knock on Weeden, just a fact of his career.

As for Richardson, I see something special. A little bit of Ray Rice like someone said, but also a completeness to his game you don't often see. If it weren't for two outstanding QB's coming out this year, he might have been a # 1 overall, or at least 2nd.

I believe he puts up a low 1000 this year then ascends in following seasons. Great, great pick by Cleveland.

[IlliniM1ke]

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Didn't Kurt Warner start out as an old rookie too? It seems starting out old for a rook isn't so bad. I don't see it as a knock on Weeden, just a fact of his career.

As for Richardson, I see something special. A little bit of Ray Rice like someone said, but also a completeness to his game you don't often see. If it weren't for two outstanding QB's coming out this year, he might have been a # 1 overall, or at least 2nd.

I believe he puts up a low 1000 this year then ascends in following seasons. Great, great pick by Cleveland.

Yeah Warner was also 28 when he got his first full season as a starter.

I agree, Richardson is the best back to come out since Peterson, hope he can live up to the hype and help put the Browns on the map, its been a pretty miserable existence as a Browns fan since their return in 1999 with only two semi decent seasons.

[Rocky]

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It's pretty obvious that Brown just doesn't want to see another Cleveland runningback in the spotlight.

Maybe, but I don't see why the greatest football player ever would be threatened by a player who has never played a down in the NFL.

It's JB's opinion and nothing else. If I'm Richardson, I'm thanking Jim Brown because that's pretty much as big a motivation you can get from another past/present player.

[SuperChargers]

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Jim could really run, but he had so many attempts! he had so many attempts per game meaning he would allot of time's get 35+. even when he had a bad game he would get all those attempts and still get allot of yards and that's because eventually with all those attempts the short yardage would add up. but in todays game no one is gonna Average all those attempts, imagine if Maurice Jones-Drew (who led the league in rushing) had that many attempts. but i still think Jim brown is ONE of the best players in the NFL,

SMH. Jim Brown has the highest YPC avg ever...

[coogrfan]

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SMH. Jim Brown has the highest YPC avg ever...

• 9 NFL seasons = 9 Pro Bowls;
• 8 times selected 1st team All-Pro ( in '62 Brown had to settle for 2nd team All-Pro );
• 3 time league MVP;
• averaged 5+ yards/carry and 100+ yds/gm for his career;
• retired while still in his prime as the NFL's all-time leading rusher, a record he held for 21 years...all this while never missing a single start.
  
  Brown is not merely the greatest rb, he's the greatest player in NFL history. Anyone who casually disregards his opinion is making a grave mistake.

[OSUFan_88]

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It also helped that Brown had a hall of fame offensive line in front of him, too.