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  • dubbville
    Rookie
    • Jun 2011
    • 41

    #46
    Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

    No way Trent Richardson has the same success that Jim Brown did. Jim Brown is a hell of a person and one of the greatest rb's ever. What he said is fine.

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    • IlliniM1ke
      Heroes Never Die
      • Feb 2003
      • 8082

      #47
      Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

      Originally posted by dubbville
      No way Trent Richardson has the same success that Jim Brown did. Jim Brown is a hell of a person and one of the greatest rb's ever. What he said is fine.
      So you're basically saying that since Richardson won't have the same success as Brown that Brown is ok by saying hes ordinary?

      So essentially anything less than equal to Jim Brown's career numbers makes Richardson ordinary?

      Richardson doesn't have to be greater than or equal to Jim Brown to surpass ordinary.
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      • TheShizNo1
        Asst 2 the Comm Manager
        • Mar 2007
        • 26341

        #48
        Originally posted by CardsFan27
        So you're basically saying that since Richardson won't have the same success as Brown that Brown is ok by saying hes ordinary?

        So essentially anything less than equal to Jim Brown's career numbers makes Richardson ordinary?

        Richardson doesn't have to be greater than or equal to Jim Brown to surpass ordinary.
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        • lonewolf371
          MVP
          • Aug 2009
          • 3420

          #49
          Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

          I feel like Adrian Peterson has under-performed relative to his ability. I don't think he's even cracked LaDainian Tomlinson level so far. Richardson might be pretty good, but probably not as good as Peterson. What's wrong with a Pro Bowl caliber running back, though?

          Jim Brown's comments were out of line, but just keep in mind that he's old and his career path of choice consisted of him getting hit in the head a lot.
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          • slickdtc
            Grayscale
            • Aug 2004
            • 17125

            #50
            Peterson started off strong, but the past 2 seasons have underwhelmed. Some of that should be attributed to a mostly awful team around him as well. As that team progresses, I'm sure we'll see AP put up crazy numbers again.
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            Originally posted by Money99
            And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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            • ImTellinTim
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              • Sep 2006
              • 33028

              #51
              Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

              Originally posted by slickdtc
              Peterson started off strong, but the past 2 seasons have underwhelmed. Some of that should be attributed to a mostly awful team around him as well. As that team progresses, I'm sure we'll see AP put up crazy numbers again.
              I'm not so sure about that. The way he shredded his knee, I think his best days may have passed.

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              • slickdtc
                Grayscale
                • Aug 2004
                • 17125

                #52
                Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                I completely forgot he tore up his knee. Wow. Yeah, that does put a damper on his career. Guys have come back, but who knows.

                It seems so damn easy to rip up your knee as a RB (or OL, with being rolled up on). You're the main target 20+ times a game.. you're bound to get hit in the wrong spot at the wrong time sometime over the course of a season and/or career.
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                Originally posted by Money99
                And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                  Next Miami Great
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4285

                  #53
                  I hope he can recover because he is a beast of a hb. You don't see many guys with his size who can move as fast/quick as him. He also doesn't waste time dancing, he hits the hole with authority. I'm glad he fixed his fumbling problem because that was his only real fault as a runner.

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                  • Vaporub83
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 399

                    #54
                    Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                    Originally posted by AUChase89
                    We haven't seen Richardson play yet, but as far as running backs go and evaluating them, while coming from the college game, Richardson is about as good as it gets. He's a power runner with great field vision.. + AP plays for the Vikings. I wonder how he would have felt from the start, if he was drafted by the Browns..

                    I think that's why most people think Brown's ego has gotten in the way with these comments. If Richardson comes out and has a great rookie season and Brown gives the guy credit and says he was wrong, then will we even be having this conversation anymore ? It's just one man's opinion..
                    Jim Brown didn't think Richardson was special before the draft. He was on ESPN before the draft and said the same things. Basically that Richardson was ordinary. If the Browns didn't draft Richardson would this be a topic?
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                    • Vaporub83
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 399

                      #55
                      Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                      Originally posted by lonewolf371
                      I feel like Adrian Peterson has under-performed relative to his ability. I don't think he's even cracked LaDainian Tomlinson level so far. Richardson might be pretty good, but probably not as good as Peterson. What's wrong with a Pro Bowl caliber running back, though?

                      Jim Brown's comments were out of line, but just keep in mind that he's old and his career path of choice consisted of him getting hit in the head a lot.
                      Doesn't he hold the record for most rushing yards in a game?

                      Personally I agree with Jim, anytime you can plug and play a position and not notice a drop off you have to give credit to the system. Richardson is good don't get me wrong, but Darren McFadden impressed me more in college.
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                      • DukeC
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 5751

                        #56
                        Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                        Originally posted by Vaporub83
                        Doesn't he hold the record for most rushing yards in a game?

                        Personally I agree with Jim, anytime you can plug and play a position and not notice a drop off you have to give credit to the system. Richardson is good don't get me wrong, but Darren McFadden impressed me more in college.

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                        Doesn't get enough carries either IMO.

                        As far as the system argument. Neither Olandis Gary or Clinton Portis (In his prime no less) were as good as Terell Davis (Gotdamn Migraines) but they produced. Why? Because Mike Shanahan is a gotdamn genius. Still doesn't take away from the fact that Terell Davis is the better player by far.
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                        • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                          Next Miami Great
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4285

                          #57
                          Clinton Portis produced without Shanahan. Hell the Redskins ran him into the ground. Every team knew he was gonna run without the threat of a passing game an he still produced. Portis was an elite back.

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                          • DukeC
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                            • Jul 2011
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                            #58
                            Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                            Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                            Clinton Portis produced without Shanahan. Hell the Redskins ran him into the ground. Every team knew he was gonna run without the threat of a passing game an he still produced. Portis was an elite back.
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                            • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                              Next Miami Great
                              • Dec 2008
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                              #59
                              Lmao fair enough

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                              • lonewolf371
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 3420

                                #60
                                Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                                Originally posted by Vaporub83
                                Doesn't he hold the record for most rushing yards in a game?

                                Personally I agree with Jim, anytime you can plug and play a position and not notice a drop off you have to give credit to the system. Richardson is good don't get me wrong, but Darren McFadden impressed me more in college.
                                Part of the reason that I think he's underperformed. He followed that game with a 45-yard performance and only had one 100-yard game the rest of the season.
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