Sound Off: Unwritten Rules Good or Bad for the Game?

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  • Pinnaql3
    Banned
    • Jun 2012
    • 74

    #61
    What about the written rules about throwing punches during or after a game that actually were broken by the GIANTS players? What happened to those?? Or the helmet to helmet hit on Vincent Jackson??? I don't care about enforcing "unwritten" rules like giving up before the clock hits all zeroes...I would love to see the written rules enforced though.

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    • JBH3
      Marvel's Finest
      • Jan 2007
      • 13506

      #62
      Originally posted by kingkilla56
      Its funny. This play has gone on for decades and not once have I heard "OMG they just let them take a knee like that? How dare they not play to the last whistle. I thought the game lasts 60 minutes? This is football isn't it?"

      But now all of a sudden the Bucs did the right thing. Ok then.
      Quite the contrary I completely accept that some teams throw in the towell and let the winning/opposing team take a knee, and in Schiano's case he's playing till the last whistle.

      Both are completely ok and teams are well within their right to take either approach.

      If someone has a problem w/ either approach then that someone (Coughlin) is the problem.

      /Thread.
      Last edited by JBH3; 09-20-2012, 05:31 PM.
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      All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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      • 55
        Banned
        • Mar 2006
        • 20857

        #63
        Re: Sound Off: Unwritten Rules Good or Bad for the Game?

        The only guys playing "dirty" on that play were the Giants offensive linemen anyway:

        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2044194819

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        • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
          Next Miami Great
          • Dec 2008
          • 4285

          #64
          Did the Bucs do the same thing when QBs kneeled down at other times? If not the. I guess they only play hard when the game is lost or when it's convenient ?

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          • kehlis
            Moderator
            • Jul 2008
            • 27738

            #65
            Re: Sound Off: Unwritten Rules Good or Bad for the Game?

            Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
            Did the Bucs do the same thing when QBs kneeled down at other times? If not the. I guess they only play hard when the game is lost or when it's convenient ?
            How is that relevant?

            It was the second game of the season with their new coach and the first time they've faced this scenerio with him.

            Not sure why what they've done in the past has anything to do with it...

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            • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
              Next Miami Great
              • Dec 2008
              • 4285

              #66
              Originally posted by kehlis
              How is that relevant?

              It was the second game of the season with their new coach and the first time they've faced this scenerio with him.

              Not sure why what they've done in the past has anything to do with it...
              I'm obviously asking a question. Maybe I should have added this season to be a little more clear. I don't care about any other season, I'm talking about this season. Did they? If they were only in that situation once so far then fine. If other QBs have kneeled on them so far this season then I hope they did the same thing. If not then that play to the whistle stuff is just bull.

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              • Sublime12089
                The Legendary Roots Crew
                • Jun 2003
                • 1495

                #67
                No, they beat up on Carolina week one.

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                • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                  Next Miami Great
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4285

                  #68
                  Thank you .

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                  • AUChase
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 19406

                    #69
                    Re: Sound Off: Unwritten Rules Good or Bad for the Game?

                    Originally posted by da ThRONe

                    Letting a team score on defense is also a strategy that in certain situations can save time to help you get the victory.
                    Yep, The Giants could have ran the clock out, kicked a field goal and Tampa never would have been back on the field. Yeah, they gave up a touchdown, but that was their only chance of getting the ball back, with a shot to win the game.

                    LOL @ some of the "reasoning" going on around here.

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                    • gjneff
                      Rookie
                      • May 2010
                      • 194

                      #70
                      Originally posted by johnnyg713
                      People that are saying this isn't a cheap call don't understand the game of football. You kneel the ball to run out the clock at the end of the game if you have the lead. You do this for a number of reasons; to make sure no one gets hurt, not run up the score, etc. This is a man's game, not a game for cry babies. What schiano did was classless. (Oh ya and I'm a Patriots fan)
                      How is this classless? If they fumble the exchange the bucs can recover and run it in for a score. It is extremely unlikely, but you have the chance to win on that play. His rutgers teams actually forced a fumble this way more than once. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/rutgers-twice-forced-victory-formation-fumbles-under-schiano/
                      If you base it on unlikely to win, then should a team behind by 1 score that gets the ball at their own 5 with 1 second left be forced to kneel down because they aren't likely to win?

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                      • elgreazy1
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 2996

                        #71
                        You play the full 60 minutes, not 59:30. If you don't agree, then I present Exhibit A:
                        Last edited by elgreazy1; 09-21-2012, 07:04 AM.
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                        • JG1986
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 513

                          #72
                          Originally posted by elgreazy1
                          You play the full 60 minutes, not 59:30. If you don't agree, then I present Exhibit A:
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZfzr9tB4oo
                          I'm curious as to why Schiano didn't call a timeout with the last few remaining seconds remaining then and try it again? They had a timeout left as time expired...

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                          • AUChase
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 19406

                            #73
                            Re: Sound Off: Unwritten Rules Good or Bad for the Game?

                            Originally posted by JG1986
                            I'm curious as to why Schiano didn't call a timeout with the last few remaining seconds remaining then and try it again? They had a timeout left as time expired...
                            They no longer would have had the element of surprise.

                            That's really all I can think of. They may have snapped it from the gun the next play or if the line actually blocks, there's no way Tampa gets it back.

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                            • kingkilla56
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 19395

                              #74
                              Re: Sound Off: Unwritten Rules Good or Bad for the Game?

                              Originally posted by AUChase89
                              They no longer would have had the element of surprise.

                              That's really all I can think of. They may have snapped it from the gun the next play or if the line actually blocks, there's no way Tampa gets it back.
                              This pretty much admits that they knew the protocol and knew it wasn't the norm. However it wasn't illegal and they can do what they want in that situation so it is what it is at this point. No point in dwelling on it. If he does it again then you know what to expect from the Bucs.

                              This reminds me of the Giants faking injury fiasco of last year. A big deal week 2 that really had no legs going forward into the season. Doubt we talk about this still in a week or two.
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                              • Basketballin
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 14

                                #75
                                As far as unwritten rules, people are going to think you're reckless if you don't abide by them but those are also the same people that don't go 100% on every play of a game or practice. One of my coaches when I played youth football urged the necessity for giving 110% every second of the game until the clock hit 0:00. Unwritten rules are like double-standards, you generally don't care until you're losing.

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