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  • Caveman24
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    • Jul 2011
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    #151
    Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

    Also whats some of you guys sleeper picks?
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    • kingkilla56
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      • Jun 2009
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      #152
      Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

      Do people think Geno is worth top pick status? I dont see it with him. I dont like any QB in the top 10 this year but Im sure one or two teams will reach.
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      • Caveman24
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        • Jul 2011
        • 1350

        #153
        Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

        Originally posted by kingkilla56
        Do people think Geno is worth top pick status? I dont see it with him. I dont like any QB in the top 10 this year but Im sure one or two teams will reach.
        i don't think people think he's worth it.It's kind of like alot of people will accept it because the Chiefs picking him and they have a real need at QB.

        Now if another team was in that position with there QB of the future and they picked Geno then i'm sure it would be a problem
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        • Amoo316
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          • Mar 2010
          • 3609

          #154
          Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

          Originally posted by kingkilla56
          Do people think Geno is worth top pick status? I dont see it with him. I dont like any QB in the top 10 this year but Im sure one or two teams will reach.
          I don't see it. I know he put up great numbers this season and last season under Holgs, but I just don't see it. I'm typically not one to claim guys are system QBs, because occasionally you have somebody break that mold (Aaron Rogers). That said, while Geno's numbers are good, they're not as good as Weeden's were and you could argue Geno had more weapons around him then Weeden did.

          He was a three year starter, and while he played well, I don't feel he ever really got out of Pat White's shadow. There's nothing I've seen from Geno that has ever made me say, "Now that is special," and I've seen him play about 15 games over 4 years.

          He played 3 respectable defenses all season:

          K-State: 65.6% (Comp %) - 1 (TD) 2 (INT)
          TCU: 59.3% - 3TD - 1INT
          Oklahoma: 57.1% - 4TD - 2INT

          He had a good year, but he's not a #1 overall QB and I would have a hard time calling him a 1st round QB. The one big game he played well in was their shellacking of Clemson in last year's Orange Bowl. Other than that, time after time he's come up short.
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          • illwill10
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            • Mar 2009
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            #155
            Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

            Originally posted by Dog
            I have no idea who I want the Eagles to take at 4
            Originally posted by The_Wise_One
            Most mocks I've seen have them taking either Joeckel or Milliner. A few have them picking one of the DE but are the Eagles really needy for a pass rusher? I remember them picking Fletcher Cox and Graham recently.
            I dont really see them taking Joeckel because I think he is a LT. With Peters coming back, I dont know if I would risk transitioning over to RT.

            I think it goes according to who they hire as DC. If they hire/switch to a 3-4, than I could see them taking a 3-4 OLB. They dont have a need for pass rusher. They do have depth throughout their DLine. They could make a 3-4 switch due to having some pieces that could fit there. Collin Jenkins played better as a 3-4 DE and Cox plays similar to Jenkins. They would need a 3-4 NT and LBs.

            I think a player like Milliner could be a good option. Nnamdi contract is something that have to do something about. They also need a FS, SAM LB(or 3-4 LBs if they switch), TE, and RT. If they could get a FS like Philip Thomas(Fresno S)/TJ McDonald/Matt Elam in 2nd or 3rd, and a RT like Flucker(ALA)/Johnson(OKL)/Williams (UNC), and a Sam LB like Hodges(PSU), they could have a good draft.

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            • TidePride50
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              • Jul 2002
              • 1010

              #156
              Originally posted by Amoo316
              Banks and it's not really close. Banks has superior balls skills and better instincts. Banks can also be a weapon in the return game if a team chooses to use him that way. If Banks played for Bama or LSU he would have been all over your tv screens this year, he wasn't, but that doesn't mean he didn't deserve to be.
              Banks is a talent for sure and I don't think you could go wrong with Banks or Milliner, but I'd take Milliner and that's not just a homer pick. I live in MS and have seen a lot of Banks over the years. Milliner played his best in biggest games and has been very consistant. Banks played his worst and was exposed in MSUs two biggest games of the year against Bama and Ole Miss.
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              • LBzrule
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 13085

                #157
                Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                Awesome that Senior Bowl Practice can be viewed on NFL Network today 4 pm.

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                • illwill10
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                  • Mar 2009
                  • 19800

                  #158
                  Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                  Originally posted by LBzrule
                  Awesome that Senior Bowl Practice can be viewed on NFL Network today 4 pm.
                  Definitely watching it today. Wont be able to see it tomorrow.

                  The draft season is one of my favorite parts of football

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                  • bigbob
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                    • Sep 2007
                    • 10471

                    #159
                    Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                    Originally posted by Caveman24
                    Also whats some of you guys sleeper picks?
                    Ray Graham and Rex Burkhead.

                    Graham has to prove that he can stay healthy though.

                    He's a top running back in college whenever he's able to stay on the field.
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                    • LambertandHam
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                      • Jul 2010
                      • 8008

                      #160
                      Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                      Originally posted by bigbob
                      Ray Graham and Rex Burkhead.

                      Graham has to prove that he can stay healthy though.

                      He's a top running back in college whenever he's able to stay on the field.
                      Hoping Ray gets his shot. Great workhorse, even after tearing his knee up.
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                      • The_Wise_One
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                        • Jan 2011
                        • 2633

                        #161
                        Originally posted by Caveman24
                        Also whats some of you guys sleeper picks?
                        Arthur Brown from Kansas State should see his stock rise. Very fast and undersized linebacker but after seeing the success of Levonte David he will get some looks.
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                        • LBzrule
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 13085

                          #162
                          Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                          Originally posted by The_Wise_One
                          Arthur Brown from Kansas State should see his stock rise. Very fast and undersized linebacker but after seeing the success of Levonte David he will get some looks.
                          Probably one of the more athletic guys at the position in the draft. Just "undersized." There are some other guys out there that will probably go 2nd, 3rd 4th that I think will be pretty good. Jackson out of Western Kentucky is a very instinctual kid and can hit with a pop; loves the game. His teammate Quanterus Smith, if he did not suffer the ACL, was high on my list for a pass rusher. Since he suffered that ACL injury in December we probably will not take him.

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                          • Amoo316
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                            • Mar 2010
                            • 3609

                            #163
                            Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                            Da'Rick Rogers has a chance to be an absolute stud if he can stay out of trouble.

                            (Homer Alert) Nobody is talking about TE Jordan Reed out of Florida, but the kid can play. NFL.com has him rated #3 overall in front of Lutz which I don't agree with, but he should be a solid starter at the next level. Would be a good pickup for Dallas if he's still there in the 3rd round or so.

                            Bjoern Werner DE - Hard to consider him a sleeper with the way he's been flying up the draft boards, but I think he may be the best defensive lineman in the draft depending on scheme. The guy has Justin Smith writen all over him.
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                            • volstopfan14
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                              • Jul 2010
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                              #164
                              Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                              Originally posted by Amoo316
                              Da'Rick Rogers has a chance to be an absolute stud if he can stay out of trouble.

                              (Homer Alert) Nobody is talking about TE Jordan Reed out of Florida, but the kid can play. NFL.com has him rated #3 overall in front of Lutz which I don't agree with, but he should be a solid starter at the next level. Would be a good pickup for Dallas if he's still there in the 3rd round or so.

                              Bjoern Werner DE - Hard to consider him a sleeper with the way he's been flying up the draft boards, but I think he may be the best defensive lineman in the draft depending on scheme. The guy has Justin Smith writen all over him.
                              Yeah, but that is huge if. I'd be very surprised if Rogers stayed out of trouble. I wish him the best, but I'm not expecting much from Da'Rick.

                              Agreed on Werner. He dominated every time I watched FSU play. I agree that he very well may be the top lineman in this class.
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                              • RebelHog
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                                • Jun 2009
                                • 1022

                                #165
                                Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                                Originally posted by Kanobi
                                Chiefs will draft Geno Smith. I don't care what anybody else thinks....this is what will happen. Period. I will bump this thread and quote this post after the the first pick is in.
                                and they will regret passing on Tyler Wilson.

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