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  • kingkilla56
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    • Jun 2009
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    #211
    Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

    Originally posted by NateDogPack12
    Mike Glennon from NC State is probably going to be a 1st Round pick. He has more potential than Nassib, Wilson, and Barkley.

    Also, EJ Manuel is going to go in the 2-3 range considering his strong performance at the Senior Bowl.
    Mike Glennon has Blaine Gabbert written all over him.
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    • Brandwin
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      • Jul 2002
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      #212
      Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

      I feel like there are a few ways the Niners can go -

      * Defensive Line depth - Justin Smith isn't getting any younger. Issac Sopoaga and Ricky Jean-Francois are Free Agents.

      * Free Safety - Depends on what they decide to do with Dashon Goldson or if they feel Spillman or someone else can become a starter.

      * Wide Receiver depth - I doubt they would draft a wide receiver with the first pick in back to back years, but A.J. Jenkins looks like he is a bust so far. When Chad Hall, who was signed the week before, gets more playing time than you do in the NFC Championship, you have issues. Also, will Randy Moss resign? Manningham will be back, but coming off torn ACL and PCL, same for Kyle Williams who tore his ACL.

      * Tight End - Delanie Walker is a Free Agent, will the Niners take someone they can pair up with Vernon Davis to give them a 1-2 punch at tight end.

      * Center - Jonathan Goodwin isn't getting any younger.

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      • NateDogPack12
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        • Jul 2011
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        #213
        Originally posted by kingkilla56
        Mike Glennon has Blaine Gabbert written all over him.
        I agree. But that won't keep him from being a 1st Round pick. Somebody will take a chance on the kid because of his arm.
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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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          #214
          I feel like there's going to be a lot of shuffling this year. Teams are so uncertain about the QB position that teams are going to trade back into the 1st round to get the QB that they want. Teams are so divided on all these guys in my opinion.
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          • kingkilla56
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            • Jun 2009
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            #215
            Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

            Originally posted by kingkilla56
            All the Giants need is ANOTHER raw first round defensive end.
            The more I think about it the more I can get behind Ansah on the Giants. Its not that I dont want freak DEs on the team, its just that we have so many other needs that have been completely ignored for so long. Then again I dont think the Giants will be able to resign JPP in a year or so so we might as well get a new one.
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            • NateDogPack12
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              • Jul 2011
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              #216
              No way Ansah gets to 19 after blowing up the Senior Bowl like he did. That man rocked anyone they put in front of him. He's overtaken Mingo and Jordan now in my opinion. I don't expect him to get past 15.
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              • sfKiD00
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                • Mar 2012
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                #217
                Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                Originally posted by iRepIndiana
                OLine. Period. We suck at multiple positions there.

                Also see us taking some CB's peanut isn't getting any younger. And some LB's Briggs and Urlacher are coming to the end.

                So areas of need base on Importance of position.

                1st OLine
                2nd LB's
                3rd DB's
                What about a TE, Kellen Davis is really average. I don't mean they should pick a TE in the first round (where they clearly should pick an offensive lineman) but they should pick up a TE in the early/mid rounds.
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                • Chrisksaint
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                  #218
                  Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                  Originally posted by NateDogPack12
                  No way Ansah gets to 19 after blowing up the Senior Bowl like he did. That man rocked anyone they put in front of him. He's overtaken Mingo and Jordan now in my opinion. I don't expect him to get past 15.
                  I'd still put Mingo and Jordan over them, both have just as much if not more potential with a better feel of the game currently imo
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                  • 37
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                    • Apr 2011
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                    #219
                    Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                    Originally posted by Chrisksaint
                    I'd still put Mingo and Jordan over them, both have just as much if not more potential with a better feel of the game currently imo
                    yeah Mingo will go before Ansah...Jordan and Ansah is closer to a toss-up
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                    • 37
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                      • Apr 2011
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                      #220
                      Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                      Originally posted by NateDogPack12
                      Mike Glennon from NC State is probably going to be a 1st Round pick. He has more potential than Nassib, Wilson, and Barkley.

                      Also, EJ Manuel is going to go in the 2-3 range considering his strong performance at the Senior Bowl.
                      i seriously pray for the team that takes EJ
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                      • NateDogPack12
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                        • Jul 2011
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                        #221
                        No way. Mingo is undersized, he gets pushed around at the point of attack, and he is strictly a 3-4 rush linebacker. Ansah is a bull, he has upside similar to that of JPP, and he can be a hybrid player or traditional defensive end.

                        And he's more agile / athletic than Jordan.

                        I think Mingo will be a quality player in the right system, but I can't say the same about Jordan. In my opinion, Ansah is better than both of them.
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                        • Chrisksaint
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                          #222
                          Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                          Is Mingo a little undersized? Yes, but don't just say he gets pushed around because of his size. Go back and watch the tape of him against Clemson, Bama Title game and probably some others I can't think of. He dominates his guy consistently in those games
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                          • sfKiD00
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                            #223
                            Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                            Originally posted by NateDogPack12
                            No way. Mingo is undersized, he gets pushed around at the point of attack, and he is strictly a 3-4 rush linebacker. Ansah is a bull, he has upside similar to that of JPP, and he can be a hybrid player or traditional defensive end.

                            And he's more agile / athletic than Jordan.

                            I think Mingo will be a quality player in the right system, but I can't say the same about Jordan. In my opinion, Ansah is better than both of them.
                            Why undersized? He's 6'5, just as big as JPP and Justin Tuck, and bigger than Chris Long and Osi Umenyiora just to name a few 4-3 d-ends.
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                            • illwill10
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                              #224
                              Re: 2013 NFL Draft Discussion

                              Originally posted by sfKiD00
                              Why undersized? He's 6'5, just as big as JPP and Justin Tuck, and bigger than Chris Long and Osi Umenyiora just to name a few 4-3 d-ends.
                              I think they mean Weight-wise

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                              • NateDogPack12
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                                • Jul 2011
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                                #225
                                Originally posted by illwill10
                                I think they mean Weight-wise
                                Right. Weight is what I meant. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

                                As for Mingo, no doubt the guy has talent, but there is no use denying he was pushed around when he played NFL level competition. Even sometimes against only average tackles. Then two first round talents, Luke Joekel and Bruce Matthews, mauled Mingo and Montgomery.

                                Against the run in the NFL, Mingo just isn't stout enough to be a defensive end. He'll be a great outside linebacker though.

                                The majority of NFL scouts agree with me. If you do a little research.

                                I'm not trying to knock him in anyway, but I do think he's only suited to be an OLB. And "Ziggy" Ansah is a better prospect.
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