Upcoming Rule Changes...

[bigbob]

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I see your Earl, and raise you Adrian.

[mestevo]

Pretty much exactly what this is intended to stop, as well as defenders going head first at runners and anything else involving delivering with you're helmet outside the tackle box.

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[ghettogeeksta]

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This rule wont pass, if it does I'll stop watching football. Ball carriers lower their head to protect themselves also. Why would backs make themselves bigger targets for defenders to hit them even harder.

[jmood88]

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It's not about stopping them from lowering their heads, it's to stop them from leading with their heads and running into defenders. Defensive players getting called for leading with their helmet when the ball carrier was the one putting his head down.

[SteelersFreak]

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I feel like if they call this rule correctly there's gonna be a flag on every other rushing play.

[wwharton]

It's not about stopping them from lowering their heads, it's to stop them from leading with their heads and running into defenders. Defensive players getting called for leading with their helmet when the ball carrier was the one putting his head down.

But they don't tho. Defenders can lead with their head as long as it isn't a defenseless receiver.

[jmood88]

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But they don't tho. Defenders can lead with their head as long as it isn't a defenseless receiver.

Yes they do. Defenders are constantly getting called for leading with their helmet when the ball carrier ducks their head.

[mestevo]

But they don't tho. Defenders can lead with their head as long as it isn't a defenseless receiver.

Unless this rule passes.

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[Bmore Irish]

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As the rule is written it applies only to the ball carrier? So, the mistake most fans make is assuming a defender should be penalized when leading with his helmet on a ball carrier... that's not a foul. According to this, it'd still not be a foul, but the ball carrier lowering his helmet would be. Not to mention a runner GRABBING a facemask is still legal.

I want to think these people in charge are smarter than us but they make it difficult sometimes.

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I would imagine there is also room for interpretation by the officials as to whether the contact is incidental or not. That's probably where you would really face a problem, as it could be called so differently depending on the official. This may not even get passed though. I so hope they pass the elimination of the tuck rule. The Jim Schwartz rule was definitely gonna happen as well lol
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[wwharton]

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Yes they do. Defenders are constantly getting called for leading with their helmet when the ball carrier ducks their head.

No, they don't. People complain in threads left and right about it, but it's not against the rules for defenders to lead with their helmet when tackling a runner. You, of all people, should know this after all the talk when Pierre Thomas got trucked in the playoffs against the 9ers last year.

See McGahee getting his bell rung when the Ravens played the Steelers a few years ago for another example.

It's only illegal to lead with your helmet on a defenseless receiver.

[kingkilla56]

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So can runners not lower their helmets to fight for extra yards?

[mestevo]

So can runners not lower their helmets to fight for extra yards?

Sure they can, as long as they don't nail someone with the crown of their helmet.

All bets are still off in short yardage situations within the tackle box though.

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[kingkilla56]

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Sure they can, as long as they don't nail someone with the crown of their helmet.

All bets are still off in short yardage situations within the tackle box though.

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But what if its like the Rice 4th a 26? after running for 24 yards is he not allowed to duck to squeeze out the last two yards if a defender is attempting to tackle him short from a head on position?

And cant a defender attack with the crown of his helmet and de cleat Rice if he were not allowed to brace himself? This rule makes no sense to me. From my understanding defenders can use the crown on defense-full(?) runners.

[mestevo]

But what if its like the Rice 4th a 26? after running for 24 yards is he not allowed to duck to squeeze out the last two yards if a defender is attempting to tackle him short from a head on position?

And cant a defender attack with the crown of his helmet and de cleat Rice if he were not allowed to brace himself? This rule makes no sense to me. From my understanding defenders can use the crown on defense-full(?) runners.

If it means putting the crown of your helmet on another player to deliver a hit then it would be a 15 yard penalty.

RBs don't typically go through people, they take an angle to try and force a glancing hit so they can keep running.

I'm not really understanding the confusion.

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[SteelerSpartan]

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This rule is bull s***.....and Ive just about had it.People can try an rationalize it all they want but it still boils down to the NFL Office trying to legislate violence and physical battle out of the game....

Theres a reason not all athletes play the game of football.....not only do you have to be extremely athletic and strong, but you also have to be able/willing to put your body through the grinder.

And make no mistake about it....The NFL owners don't really give a **** about player safety.....These absurd rule changes are all part of their plan to protect themselves in a lawsuit and turn the fans against the former players at the same time..

The game of football is getting caught up and ruined by the NFL's Owners and former players war for more money