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  • QuieroFrijoles
    Rookie
    • Jul 2012
    • 45

    #106
    Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

    Originally posted by bigbob
    What's a shame is there hasn't even been a trial and people are calling him guilty.
    Well its not like he's helping himself out either with the destroyed cellphone/ video footage or that a cleaning crew cleaned his house after the murder. If Hernandez is innocent, he is suffering from the worst case of bad timing I've ever seen.

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    • LambertandHam
      All Star
      • Jul 2010
      • 8008

      #107
      Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

      Originally posted by VTPack919
      Yeah well, sad story, but it's the way people are. He could have nothing come of this but people will still refer to him as a murderer. Just like Ray Lewis.
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      • rangerrick012
        All Star
        • Jan 2010
        • 6201

        #108
        Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

        Originally posted by VTPack919
        Yeah well, sad story, but it's the way people are. He could have nothing come of this but people will still refer to him as a murderer. Just like Ray Lewis.
        Sad for him? Why the hell should anyone be sad for him at this point? The guy put himself in a situation, and then has destroyed evidence and not cooperated w/ police from the reports.

        Of course the public perception is going to be that he's guilty, most people that are innocent do anything they can to clear their name, not hire a cleaning service and refuse to cooperate.

        Sorry, just the use of the term 'sad' in this instance irks me. Starving kids in Africa are sad. A rich spoiled athlete at the very least putting himself in a bad spot and at the very worse being an accomplice to murder is not sad at all.
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        • NDAlum
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          • Jun 2010
          • 11453

          #109
          Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

          Originally posted by bigbob
          What's a shame is there hasn't even been a trial and people are calling him guilty.
          I haven't seen anyone here call him guilty. I have seen people say that it doesn't look good. I'm assuming they are saying that because it doesn't look good.
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          • VTPack919
            We Go Again
            • Jun 2003
            • 9708

            #110
            Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

            Originally posted by rangerrick012
            Sad for him? Why the hell should anyone be sad for him at this point? The guy put himself in a situation, and then has destroyed evidence and not cooperated w/ police from the reports.

            Of course the public perception is going to be that he's guilty, most people that are innocent do anything they can to clear their name, not hire a cleaning service and refuse to cooperate.

            Sorry, just the use of the term 'sad' in this instance irks me. Starving kids in Africa are sad. A rich spoiled athlete at the very least putting himself in a bad spot and at the very worse being an accomplice to murder is not sad at all.
            Fix your sarcasm detector.
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            • bigbob
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              • Sep 2007
              • 10471

              #111
              Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

              Originally posted by NDAlum
              I haven't seen anyone here call him guilty. I have seen people say that it doesn't look good. I'm assuming they are saying that because it doesn't look good.
              I never said it was here that people were calling him guilty.
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              • NDAlum
                ND
                • Jun 2010
                • 11453

                #112
                Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

                Originally posted by bigbob
                I never said it was here that people were calling him guilty.
                Correct

                I don't believe I said that you did
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                • TheMatrix31
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 52920

                  #113
                  Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

                  Even if people were calling him guilty---who cares? That's what he gets for having his reputation and having the friends that he does.

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #114
                    Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

                    Not surprised people are calling him guilty. That's how society is programmed nowadays. Guilty until Proven Innocent and has been the case for a while now.
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                    • bigbob
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 10471

                      #115
                      Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      Not surprised people are calling him guilty. That's how society is programmed nowadays. Guilty until Proven Innocent and has been the case for a while now.
                      I'm not surprised, I just said it's a shame. Even if he's proven to have not killed anyone, it won't matter because everyone will just say he got away with it.
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                      • SPTO
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046

                        #116
                        Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

                        Originally posted by bigbob
                        I'm not surprised, I just said it's a shame. Even if he's proven to have not killed anyone, it won't matter because everyone will just say he got away with it.
                        Even if he didn't kill anyone, destroying evidence is still pretty bad IMO as it shows he's covering up for someone else.

                        I don't necessarily think he's guilty but based on what we've heard so far I wouldn't be surprised if he is.
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                        • blackceasar
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 3228

                          #117
                          Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

                          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                          Even if people were calling him guilty---who cares? That's what he gets for having his reputation and having the friends that he does.
                          I have to agree with TheMatrix here. There is a saying, perception is reality. A lot of younger people who are thrust into fame and riches don't really understand this saying. Sure technically he's not been proven guilty of anything, he should be aware of his own personal brand. What I mean by brand is how people perceive you based on the person you are, and your actions (and at times inactions).

                          I think some younger people don't really understand this concept and when you add money and fame into the mix, it makes it even harder for some of them to grasp this. These young pro athletes need to realize that your personal brand has a direct effect on how the public perceives you and how the public perceives you has a direct tie to getting and keeping sponsors, etc.

                          It just makes me mad. "Here kid, you've got talent. Heres millions of dollars and all I ask you to do is show up for practice, play the game you love that you were playing for free, and I only require about six to eight months of your time and please keep your nose clean and be a professional. You can still have fun, but act like a man, not a boy.

                          Sounds like a really simple request in exchange for millions of dollars... yet some of them fail at it. Again, not saying hes guility but why even put yourself in that position to begin with???
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                          • NYJetsfan
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 926

                            #118
                            Originally posted by blackceasar
                            I have to agree with TheMatrix here. There is a saying, perception is reality. A lot of younger people who are thrust into fame and riches don't really understand this saying. Sure technically he's not been proven guilty of anything, he should be aware of his own personal brand. What I mean by brand is how people perceive you based on the person you are, and your actions (and at times inactions).

                            I think some younger people don't really understand this concept and when you add money and fame into the mix, it makes it even harder for some of them to grasp this. These young pro athletes need to realize that your personal brand has a direct effect on how the public perceives you and how the public perceives you has a direct tie to getting and keeping sponsors, etc.

                            It just makes me mad. "Here kid, you've got talent. Heres millions of dollars and all I ask you to do is show up for practice, play the game you love that you were playing for free, and I only require about six to eight months of your time and please keep your nose clean and be a professional. You can still have fun, but act like a man, not a boy.

                            Sounds like a really simple request in exchange for millions of dollars... yet some of them fail at it. Again, not saying hes guility but why even put yourself in that position to begin with???
                            Money doesn't make people smarter and it can't buy them a moral compass.

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                            • BigDofBA
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 9066

                              #119
                              Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

                              So Hernandez has had ties to gangs, drugs, and apparently shot someone in February.

                              Now, Hernandez has had his phone and home surveillance footage destroyed, and also hired a cleaning crew to come clean up his house after an associate of his was murdered a mile from his house.

                              How can anyone really argue that he isn't guilty, connected to this, or knows something?

                              Every sign is pointing that way and there is evidence. Even if he wasn't the person that pulled the trigger, he was involved in some way or he wouldn't have went to such great lengths to try to hide things.

                              I thought it was just common sense based on the information that he is somehow involved. You don't have to be the trigger man to be involved in a crime.
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                              • NDAlum
                                ND
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 11453

                                #120
                                Re: Aaron Hernandez Saga

                                The odds of a guilty man going free are FAR GREATER than an innocent man being found guilty.

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