2017 Training Camp/Preseason Games Discussion Thread

[NDAlum]

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I've watched Bortles more than I've cared too since the Jags play in the horrific AFC South and the matchups look great on paper so I end up taking him as my QB in FanDuel.

He is an extremely unimpressive person to watch play quarterback. His accuracy is horrible and it seems like his throws are so close to the LOS.

Just look at 2016 air yards and he was at 3.21 which was the lowest of starting QB's outside of Jared Goff if he counts. Well he did tie with Wentz.

I just felt like he couldn't go through progressions and see windows to get the ball downfield so he just checked down.

It's funny I then thought about Tyrod Taylor who I view in the same manner of as a guy who looks good on paper with some matchups and I'd take him often as well in FanDuel. I see him just chucking the ball downfield which I really appreciated in my greedy need for points mentality. On the yards in air he has one of the high air yards average at 4.29.

[slickdtc]

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Yeah, I know what you mean, and I wholeheartedly agree. Whatever the cause, most likely a vile mixture of him not fitting scheme and having less than zero confidence, I don't see Taylor playing well.

On another note, I don't get why McD and Beane don't want to admit we're rebuilding though, it'll probably be a much shorter build since we already have talent, but a build nonetheless.


Hopefully by years end, we'll have some idea who our QB will be, I just pray they don't reach on Rosen, Jackson or Darnold unless they're legit. No more E.J. Manuel'ing.


Darnold has looked the best in my opinion, but things could change, if they don't, I see the Jets pouncing on him, then again it could backfire like another certain promising USC QB who butt fumbled his way into our hearts.

I feel like our defense could be ferocious again, which having a great defense, as a fan, is an awesome feeling. Going out there and shutting down offenses in an offensive-leaning league is something to be admired.

Offensively, I thought Dennison's zone blocking, PA-based offense would fit Taylor great with his mobility but it hasn't exactly been the case through two preseason games. I'm hoping he can pick it up when the games count. I don't think he's this bad even in a different style of offense.

My fear is that this becomes like Marrone's last year here, when we tried Manuel for 4 games before realizing that was a terrible idea and let Orton pilot us to a 7-5 record. I'm worried that our offense will absolutely waste a terrific defensive year. The good news is that I don't think McDermott bolts like Marrone did, leaving his staff in disarray (which led to Schwartz leaving and pretty much reset all defensive progress from the year prior). So if this year ends up as an offensive disaster, the coaching staff should still be in place... well, maybe not on the offensive side. We'll see if they think it's personnel or coaching if we have a stinker of a year.

What's Taylor's contract look like? I want to say it's structured to be team friendly... again... with outs at certain years.

[BarfytheOwl]

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I feel like our defense could be ferocious again, which having a great defense, as a fan, is an awesome feeling. Going out there and shutting down offenses in an offensive-leaning league is something to be admired.

Offensively, I thought Dennison's zone blocking, PA-based offense would fit Taylor great with his mobility but it hasn't exactly been the case through two preseason games. I'm hoping he can pick it up when the games count. I don't think he's this bad even in a different style of offense.

My fear is that this becomes like Marrone's last year here, when we tried Manuel for 4 games before realizing that was a terrible idea and let Orton pilot us to a 7-5 record. I'm worried that our offense will absolutely waste a terrific defensive year. The good news is that I don't think McDermott bolts like Marrone did, leaving his staff in disarray (which led to Schwartz leaving and pretty much reset all defensive progress from the year prior). So if this year ends up as an offensive disaster, the coaching staff should still be in place... well, maybe not on the offensive side. We'll see if they think it's personnel or coaching if we have a stinker of a year.

What's Taylor's contract look like? I want to say it's structured to be team friendly... again... with outs at certain years.

I believe with the restructure he's one of the lowest paid starters, with Buffalo being able to opt out after this season or move him with little cap penalty.

And yeah, the defense looks really good so far, even the 2nd stringers. I was afraid Zo would regress moving to a 4-3 but he looks phenomenal in coverage. Hughes should regain some semblance of 2014 being back at DE, which in my opinion will make him great trade bait in the future if the organisation likes Yarbrough as much as I do.


I'm a little hesitant on the secondary (I love Tre' White and Micah), but having a monster front four will help them out.


What are they doing with Ragland though? Him being knocked to the third string defense surprises me and makes me wonder if the brass feel the same towards him that they did with Sammy and Darby.

[LambertandHam]

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Thought Conner did well, needs to catch those easy passes. Dobbs looked not great again, especially on that INT where he had a wide open guy in front of him. Good to see Bryant back.

[muggins]

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Welp, Anquan Boldin retired. Wonder if I can get a refund on my NFL Sunday Ticket.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Starters on Offense and Defense impressed me last night. Tackling was much better this week compared to last.

I look forward to more Rodgers/Bennett jump balls this year. Hundley looked good as well.

That 2nd string O-Line on the other hand...yeesh. And our 2nd rd pick from last year looks even more loss this year and I didn't think that was possible.

Denver should be a good "dress rehearsal" for our Offense next week going against that Defense.


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[PeoplesChampGB]

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Starters on Offense and Defense impressed me last night. Tackling was much better this week compared to last.

I look forward to more Rodgers/Bennett jump balls this year. Hundley looked good as well.

That 2nd string O-Line on the other hand...yeesh. And our 2nd rd pick from last year looks even more loss this year and I didn't think that was possible.

Denver should be a good "dress rehearsal" for our Offense next week going against that Defense.


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Who do you keep PPM? Callahan or Hill?

[BarfytheOwl]

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Welp, Anquan Boldin retired. Wonder if I can get a refund on my NFL Sunday Ticket.

Well. I guess now we might just tank. ****.

[rkwittem]

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I have a hard time believing that Adrian Peterson will have more yards than Alvin Kamara.

Convince me otherwise.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Who do you keep PPM? Callahan or Hill?

Probably Hill because I don't see much if any difference in Callahan from last year to this year. Looks like just another guy seeing him out there.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I have a hard time believing that Adrian Peterson will have more yards than Alvin Kamara.

Convince me otherwise.

I'm definitely convinced that Kamara will be #2 on the team. Question is really whether or not Peterson can beat out Ingram for early down work, which I personally do not foresee.

[TripleCrown9]

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Julian Edelman likely tore his ACL.

[ggsimmonds]

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Julian Edelman likely tore his ACL.

I'm not even gonna pretend to feel bad for him. I'm happy he did. Yeah I said it lol

[PeoplesChampGB]

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Julian Edelman likely tore his ACL.

.....and the Madden curse commences.

[N51_rob]

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Thats not how it works...