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  • ggsimmonds
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jan 2009
    • 11235

    #121
    Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ninertravel
    Nah I think the Packers are getting there with the steelers for that. they basically pulled 3 wins out because of terrible coaching the niners game scoring to early. this week INT and the bengals game where no one knew how to kick a field goal and the Bengals kept saying ' Cosby come on here you go have a 4th chance now we want you to kick it'
    Nah man, Packers already have an identity.
    Packers are the team that looks great until the NFCCG when they will lose.

    It is their destiny

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #122
      Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

      I imagine for the Ravens it’s similar, except they usually meet their fate in the wild card or divisional round. /shotsfired
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • slickdtc
        Grayscale
        • Aug 2004
        • 17126

        #123
        Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

        Ahh, we must be getting in to the thick of things. Every team stinks!
        NHL - Philadelphia Flyers
        NFL - Buffalo Bills
        MLB - Cincinnati Reds


        Originally posted by Money99
        And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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        • ggsimmonds
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2009
          • 11235

          #124
          Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by slickdtc
          Ahh, we must be getting in to the thick of things. Every team stinks!
          The joys of when the league is wide open. Who wants to troll when there is a dynasty or clear cut favorite?

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          • Hawaii_Stars
            MVP
            • Jun 2003
            • 4308

            #125
            Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by kehlis
            He hardly had a second lol. If you have better angle than we do, show us where he could have thrown it.

            Some of the "analysis" on this site is amazing at times.
            Watch the replay. He takes his drop and has a chance to get off a quality throw but instead he decided to step up in the pocket bc he thought he could escape the rush. So he had a chance to throw it. I guess that you need a green name to provide sensible takes on this site.

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            • mestevo
              Gooney Goo Goo
              • Apr 2010
              • 19556

              #126
              Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by Hawaii_Stars
              Watch the replay. He takes his drop and has a chance to get off a quality throw but instead he decided to step up in the pocket bc he thought he could escape the rush. So he had a chance to throw it. I guess that you need a green name to provide sensible takes on this site.
              ...which is why you were asked where he should throw it to, in that situation unless there's blown coverage if you need 15 yards you can't throw the ball 2 seconds into the play. At second 3 Frank Clark and Jarran Reed were meeting at the QB because the OL didn't pick up the stunt.

              Less than 2 seconds into the play it was over and Jones was just trying to survive - https://mobile.twitter.com/syedschem...76293613166596

              Applying a thick coating of hindsight, they should have tried some kind of rollout to create time, and if defenders were caught in man Jones could have attempted to run it. Not sure how successful Jones is rolling to his left, that was his only ad lib option really. A better OL would have kept Reed outside and blocked Clark, allowing him to step-up. That's where the play failed, LG committed to Reed, C and RG blocked NOBODY, and Clark got almost a clean rush at the QB. Catastrophically bad OL play sealed the game and never gave Jones the chance.

              Chiefs got home with 4, so Jones was probably staring at a wall of red jerseys 10-20 yards from the LOS (coaches film not yet available).
              Last edited by mestevo; 11-03-2021, 11:05 AM.

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              • mestevo
                Gooney Goo Goo
                • Apr 2010
                • 19556

                #127
                Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

                Here we go.

                [ATTACH]196900[/ATTACH]

                Nobody was open. The OL collapse on that play didn't give anyone time to get past or to a void in the coverage. Every pass would have been within a few yards of 3+ Chiefs except for the HB who ran a 2 yard out on 4th and 15 with at least 3 DBs to beat (so only the best option in hindsight, and you'd have to lob it directly over the rushing DL). Didn't have the time to try and yolo a bomb to the outside or to throw it to the crosser, neither were open in part because of the deep routes they were running (nobody on offense actually playing the sticks).

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                • Hawaii_Stars
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 4308

                  #128
                  Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

                  I didn’t say someone was open. I was saying it’s the last play of the game, give your team a chance and not take a sack. He had time to get rid of the ball. Would they have scored? Most likely not, but you have zero chance of a miracle if you just eat a sack and don’t throw the ball. I’m sure he noticed the rush coming in his face as he hit his back foot. That’s when I felt he could have just threw it up. But it’s fine we can disagree.

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                  • ggsimmonds
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11235

                    #129
                    Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Hawaii_Stars
                    I didn’t say someone was open. I was saying it’s the last play of the game, give your team a chance and not take a sack. He had time to get rid of the ball. Would they have scored? Most likely not, but you have zero chance of a miracle if you just eat a sack and don’t throw the ball. I’m sure he noticed the rush coming in his face as he hit his back foot. That’s when I felt he could have just threw it up. But it’s fine we can disagree.
                    Hindsight.

                    Had he stepped up in the pocket and avoided the sack he'd be credited with keeping the play alive to give his team a chance.

                    Had he immediately hit the checkdown at the first sign of pressure he would be lambasted for not giving his team a chance to win.

                    He attempted option 1, as almost any QB would do. How many times each game does a defensive player get a hand on the QB only for the QB to not be sacked?

                    What you should be doing is giving credit to those linemen for bringing him down and not letting him evade the pressure.

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                    • jeebs9
                      Fear is the Unknown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47573

                      #130
                      Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

                      Turned the game on see the score. Watch Taylor rip off that run. Change channel back to basketball.

                      Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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                      • kehlis
                        Moderator
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 27738

                        #131
                        Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

                        You don't have to let us know every time you see a big play.

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47573

                          #132
                          Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by kehlis
                          You don't have to let us know every time you see a big play.
                          That's literally the only play I saw. Guess this old man thing is just going around here lately. What happen in my post was true. I turned it on. Watch Taylor run. Then changed the channel [emoji23]. I guess it's only funny to me. I'll stop SMH [emoji23]


                          I don't why I'm so disappointed in your post. Isn't this operation sports? When did we get like this?
                          Last edited by jeebs9; 11-04-2021, 11:39 PM.
                          Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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                          • slickdtc
                            Grayscale
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 17126

                            #133
                            Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

                            Detective kehlis snuffing out Week 9 discussion in the Week 8 thread
                            NHL - Philadelphia Flyers
                            NFL - Buffalo Bills
                            MLB - Cincinnati Reds


                            Originally posted by Money99
                            And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #134
                              Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by jeebs9
                              That's literally the only play I saw. Guess this old man thing is just going around here lately. What happen in my post was true. I turned it on. Watch Taylor run. Then changed the channel [emoji23]. I guess it's only funny to me. I'll stop SMH [emoji23]


                              I don't why I'm so disappointed in your post. Isn't this operation sports? When did we get like this?
                              You serious or you being dramatic? Asking because I can’t tell [emoji102]
                              #RespectTheCulture

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                              • jeebs9
                                Fear is the Unknown
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 47573

                                #135
                                Re: Week 8 Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                You serious or you being dramatic? Asking because I can’t tell [emoji102]
                                I'm being both. First I'm laughing really hard. Then I'm like why the **** do you need to say that. Usually Kelish has this thing of correcting me (and others). I know I have a bad habit of posting a link with zero content. Leaving everyone wondering "why this mother ****er posted a link to share with hahaha and that's it?" So I totally get it.

                                I guess I was sharing something I thought was funny. But I guess it wasn't. It's just disappointing. That's all I got to say LMFAO
                                Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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