Week 3 Discussion Thread

[Majingir]

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Sounds like what Rodgers might have seen on the jumbotron was them showing Brady with the tablet which revealed the Bucs 2pt conversion play.

[The Chef]

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Get well soon, Trey.

That was painful to watch, Denver has a good defense but Garoppolo was his usual erratic self missing throws consistently and once Trent Williams left it just got worse if that was possible. For those who fell asleep watching this game just wait as SF plays the Rams on MNF next week so you can get some good sleep in again.

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[Madden08PCgmr]

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Should the Broncos fire Hackett before midseason?

I'm curious to see how much longer Russ gets a pass on this?

That offense seems perfect for his skillset. So far in Seattle and now Denver, its been some brutal uphill climbing.

Rodgers shredded it immediately once LaFleur arrived. Outside of 2010-2011, I don't think he's ever played better.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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Sounds like what Rodgers might have seen on the jumbotron was them showing Brady with the tablet which revealed the Bucs 2pt conversion play.

This seems a little far fetched to me.

It will be interesting if the media can find the same clip Rodgers is referring to.

[DamnYanks2]

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Should the Broncos fire Hackett before midseason?

I believe they absolutely need to do it to show a sense of urgency. This was a team I picked to go 13-4 before the season, and I believe they’re the most talented across the board in the AFC West. He looks like he’s completely in over his head and shouldn’t be in control of this offense, much less this team. But we also know he was never meant to be head coach, Aaron Rodgers was

The main reason I believe it should be done is because we’ve just seen how midseason firings can light a fire under a stagnant team. Look no further than this year’s midseason baseball firings. Phillies were 22-29 when they fired Gabe Kaplar. They’re currently 83-69 and I picked them at 88-74 before the season. Blue Jays were 46-42 when they fired Charlie Montoyo. They’re 86-67 now and I picked them at 93-69 before the year

Well they are 2-1. So probably not. They've won them all ugly though. I keep waiting for Jeudy to break out and it just hasn't happened. That offense is nothing special. Sutton is the only WR you can count on and he's not a superstar imo.

Russ literally made it happen for one drive only. And it was enough because Jimmy G is Jimmy G. Denver has a great defense though if that keeps up I could see them being slightly above .500 for the season. That team is hard to watch though.

Russ doesn't have a Tyler Lockett on that team. He doesn't have a D.K.. It's gonna be tough He can still put the cape on. But this team is gonna try the hell out of him. There were also quite a few instances of guys just dropping passes. Thar offense is ugly.



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[ProfessaPackMan]

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Meh, he’s getting paid the big bucks to make **** happen, even with no more Lockett or DK.

[DamnYanks2]

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Meh, he’s getting paid the big bucks to make **** happen, even with no more Lockett or DK.

And I tend to agree with some of this. But he honestly looked slow with his decision making too. Till he had to put the cape on.

But it makes it more difficult though right? Aaron Rodgers isn't as dynamic without Davante Adams. Brady didn't have Godwin or Mike Evans yesterday. That wasn't the prettiest game either. You gotta have the receivers too.

Wilson has one good wr and a power back. That's about it. Tim Patrick was a big loss in the speed department. So it really just comes down to Russ doing Russ things. And as *** as that offense has been. They are at 2-1. Could be worse. They gotta get Jeudy into the fold or he may just be a bust.



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[ProfessaPackMan]

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And I tend to agree with some of this. But he honestly looked slow with his decision making too. Till he had to put the cape on.

But it makes it more difficult though right? Aaron Rodgers isn't as dynamic without Davante Adams. Brady didn't have Godwin or Mike Evans yesterday. That wasn't the prettiest game either. You gotta have the receivers too.

Wilson has one good wr and a power back. That's about it. Tim Patrick was a big loss in the speed department. So it really just comes down to Russ doing Russ things. And as *** as that offense has been. They are at 2-1. Could be worse. They gotta get Jeudy into the fold or he may just be a bust.



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Rodgers was already dynamic before Davante blew up though, remember? He was a SB MVP and a 2x MVP before Davante became the best WR in the league.

And Brady has won SBs with midgets at WR, so that’s why I said it’s on Russ, especially if he’s as good as the others.

That being said, I do think all the noise about their Offense and his struggles are a bit overblown, especially this early in the season. We love to crown teams early in the year and also label teams as the worse in the league after 3 weeks and I think this is another example of that. Same with people jumping on the Dolphins’ bandwagon now that they’re 3-0, lol

One poster mentioned how Rodgers looked good immediately when LaFleur got there and I don’t remember that being the case. He looked tentative as hell early on in that first year but we were still winning games despite that. He even admitted that it took him some time and some conversations with LaFleur before he felt comfortable with that Offense(which makes sense since he played in one Offense his whole career up to that point). Once he got comfortable and confident in this Offense, his play took off, as did several other players.

[kehlis]

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I agree with everything you said you above but only quoting this part because you remember very accurately.

One poster mentioned how Rodgers looked good immediately when LaFleur got there and I don’t remember that being the case. He looked tentative as hell early on in that first year but we were still winning games despite that. He even admitted that it took him some time and some conversations with LaFleur before he felt comfortable with that Offense(which makes sense since he played in one Offense his whole career up to that point). Once he got comfortable and confident in this Offense, his play took off, as did several other players.

Russ and Rodgers in their first three starts learning this exact same offense:

Benjamin Allbright
@AllbrightNFL
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5h
In 2019 Aaron Rodgers struggled early with this same offense.

He went 57 of 93 (62.1%) for 647 yards and 4 TDs and 7 sacks through first three games.

Russell Wilson is 63 of 106 for 743 yards 2 TDs, 9 sacks for comparison sake.



And before anyone gets on me since they know I"m a Broncos fan. Yes - I know they are putrid. Been awful to watch.

I wasn't huge on the trade to begin with but that's out of my hands.

At the same time, I'm not ready to write them off yet.

I don't think they will go far this year. (I predicted between 9/10 wins). But I don't think the first three games in a new offense, with new teammates, and a new setting are the reason to panic. And that's not to say there aren't any because there are plenty.

[DamnYanks2]

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Rodgers was already dynamic before Davante blew up though, remember? He was a SB MVP and a 2x MVP before Davante became the best WR in the league.

And Brady has won SBs with midgets at WR, so that’s why I said it’s on Russ, especially if he’s as good as the others.

That being said, I do think all the noise about their Offense and his struggles are a bit overblown, especially this early in the season. We love to crown teams early in the year and also label teams as the worse in the league after 3 weeks and I think this is another example of that. Same with people jumping on the Dolphins’ bandwagon now that they’re 3-0, lol

One poster mentioned how Rodgers looked good immediately when LaFleur got there and I don’t remember that being the case. He looked tentative as hell early on in that first year but we were still winning games despite that. He even admitted that it took him some time and some conversations with LaFleur before he felt comfortable with that Offense(which makes sense since he played in one Offense his whole career up to that point). Once he got comfortable and confident in this Offense, his play took off, as did several other players.

Oh of course. I mean Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings and prime Randall Cobb were pretty damn good too. But I don't consider Russ quite on Arod and Brady's level regardless.

I don't even know if Arod and Brady could guide this Denver team though. I just think Russ has nothing to work with right now. The WR position is pretty bare. But then again Arod won yesterday with a bunch of rookie receivers and Allen Lazard. Got nothing from his backs. Can Russ do that. I don't know. I guess he's managed through 3 games though. Could of been 0-3 easily.





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[jeebs9]

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Monday Night Football!! This should be a good one.

[p_rushing]

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I agree with everything you said you above but only quoting this part because you remember very accurately.



Russ and Rodgers in their first three starts learning this exact same offense:

Benjamin Allbright
@AllbrightNFL
·
5h
In 2019 Aaron Rodgers struggled early with this same offense.

He went 57 of 93 (62.1%) for 647 yards and 4 TDs and 7 sacks through first three games.

Russell Wilson is 63 of 106 for 743 yards 2 TDs, 9 sacks for comparison sake.



And before anyone gets on me since they know I"m a Broncos fan. Yes - I know they are putrid. Been awful to watch.

I wasn't huge on the trade to begin with but that's out of my hands.

At the same time, I'm not ready to write them off yet.

I don't think they will go far this year. (I predicted between 9/10 wins). But I don't think the first three games in a new offense, with new teammates, and a new setting are the reason to panic. And that's not to say there aren't any because there are plenty.

And Blake Bortles threw 4 TDs in his 3rd game in the offense to blow out the Ravens.

These other QBs must be terrible if Bortles is showing them up.


Hackett is average but never great. He seems to try and out think the other team too much from my memory of his time with the Jags. The planned plays started out great most games and then he would go and never call those again the rest of the game. Just didn't seem like he was great in game with making decisions.

Sometimes you just have to lineup and call the plays that you are good at, even if the other team is trying to stop it. Just trust that you are better and stop trying to find the perfect play call.

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[kehlis]

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And Blake Bortles threw 4 TDs in his 3rd game in the offense to blow out the Ravens.

These other QBs must be terrible if Bortles is showing them up.


Hackett is average but never great. He seems to try and out think the other team too much from my memory of his time with the Jags. The planned plays started out great most games and then he would go and never call those again the rest of the game. Just didn't seem like he was great in game with making decisions.

Sometimes you just have to lineup and call the plays that you are good at, even if the other team is trying to stop it. Just trust that you are better and stop trying to find the perfect play call.

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Cool, thanks for the insight.

I've now downgraded my personal opinion on the offense from putrid to "Bortles putrid".

[dubcity]

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I will never ever see "ARod" and think of Aaron Rodgers and not Alex Rodriguez.

[DamnYanks2]

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That was the most obvious missed pass interference call lol. How the hell do you miss that?

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