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  • NateDogPack12
    Go Pack Go!!
    • Jul 2011
    • 1271

    #3031
    I was under the impression a second offense brought about an optional four game suspension and / or a fine but that a third offense resulted in the season long suspension. Can someone clarify this point?
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    • NateDogPack12
      Go Pack Go!!
      • Jul 2011
      • 1271

      #3032
      "NFL rules only allow commissioner Roger Goodell to suspend violators of the substance-abuse policy if they are two-time offenders. So the the rookie-year violation was Miller's second of the sort. A third offense would cost him an entire season."

      Source: Rotoworld
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      • gr18
        MVP
        • Sep 2007
        • 2309

        #3033
        Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

        Very disappointing.

        I'm sure a high percentage of players smoke pot but know how to work around the system.Not that I condone it,I'm over 40 while most of these guys are in their 20's and still hang around with some friends they grew up with who don't have nearly as much to lose.That's where the stupidity of the player comes in.

        We can't make up for that loss in production for 4 games.The first 2 we need Von especially.Opening against the Ravens is big for obvious reasons then playing the Giants at their stadium won't be easy.The Raiders and Eagles will probably be easier games regardless but you never know.

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        • The JareBear
          Be Good To One Another
          • Jul 2010
          • 11560

          #3034
          Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

          The signing of Shaun Phillips is definitely big now. Is he Von? Heck no, not even close, but he can at least put up a solid rush that the other team has to gameplan for.
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          • gr18
            MVP
            • Sep 2007
            • 2309

            #3035
            Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

            Originally posted by NateDogPack12
            "NFL rules only allow commissioner Roger Goodell to suspend violators of the substance-abuse policy if they are two-time offenders. So the the rookie-year violation was Miller's second of the sort. A third offense would cost him an entire season."

            Source: Rotoworld
            It's been identified as a four game suspension that he is facing.I don't know or care what number of offence he is on right now,2 or 3,all I know is this time it's four and obviously if there is a next time it would be the season.

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            • Jonsco28
              Bob Loblaw
              • Sep 2008
              • 1057

              #3036
              Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

              Originally posted by jaredlib
              Yeah, I agree this is a possibility, and if it is the case, the dude is a freaking idiot. I mean, I already think he's not very bright, but if he tries to pull a "it's legal in Colorado" deal, he might be one of the dumber kids I have heard of. Company policy is company policy. You can't get high in the NFL. Wait until after your career is over and you are drowning in money to party hard. I was hoping getting rid of D.J. Williams and his "Dyme Lyfe" mentality would clean up the locker room a little, but honestly it sounds like the Broncos are just like every other team out there. There really is no difference between the Raiders and the Patriots, every team has these issues, just some teams are better at nipping them in the bud than others.

              I am trying not to freak out and do a Chicken Little. Von Miller is an awesome player, I really love watching him play. This is very, very disappointing. You would think that if your team is the odds-on favorite to win a Superbowl and you are a crucial part of that puzzle, you might exercise some impulse control. On top of all of this, from what I heard, the NFL only tests for recreational drugs during a certain time of the year. Assuming that information is correct, why the hell would you use said recreational drugs during that time frame?
              I agree with you, but Denver is going to be okay and they will weather this. What worries me is the fact that he is dangerously close to being suspended for an entire season. Von isn't supposed to be 'that' guy. He's a superstar that was voted as being one of the top ten guys in the NFL. I don't know about his intelligence, but it doesn't take a very bright person to figure out that this can ruin your career. You'd think he would have figured it out after the first offense.

              I've never understood why it take multiple offenses before action is taken. I can see getting a pass on your first offense, but why isn't that first warning enough? Throw in the fact that this is supposed to be kept a secret. Why? Expose these guys on the first offense.

              I think everyone would be surprised as to how many NFL players use recreational drugs. But like you said, there is a known window where the likely hood of being tested for recreational drugs is very high (April to August). Still no excuse. Don't do it...especially if you have already tested positive a couple of times when YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE A TARGET FOR RE-TESTING.

              Dumb.

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              • mestevo
                Gooney Goo Goo
                • Apr 2010
                • 19556

                #3037
                Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                Next year is his contract year, could be interesting.

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                • kehlis
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27738

                  #3038
                  Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                  I'm really just taken aback about this for some reason.

                  There are a lot of players on the Broncos and throughout the league that I wouldn't have been surprised to hear this about. I guess my naivety fooled me because I really didn't expect Von to be one of them.

                  Very disappointing.

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                  • The JareBear
                    Be Good To One Another
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 11560

                    #3039
                    Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                    Originally posted by mestevo
                    Next year is his contract year, could be interesting.
                    I wonder how much money this could cost him?
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                    • kehlis
                      Moderator
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27738

                      #3040
                      According to the DP it's 1.3 million.


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                      • mestevo
                        Gooney Goo Goo
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 19556

                        #3041
                        Originally posted by jaredlib
                        I wonder how much money this could cost him?
                        Probably not a lot, but could lead to a fight over details if the Broncos want to protect themselves from a future year-long suspension from someone who 'didnt do anything wrong' 3-4 times at that point.

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                        • TRC
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 209

                          #3042
                          Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                          I am not ready to pile on Miller at this point. From what I am reading, this suspension is a result of a positive (recreational) drug test from 2 years ago. This was also being discussed privately by the NFL before it was leaked. None of us know, at this point, any real specifics of Von's situation. An appeal has been issued which could lessen or eradicate the suspension. If Miller is guilty of being a bonehead with multiple offenses of the league's substance abuse policy, then I will join in.

                          BTW, I don't believe the Colorado marijuana law was in effect at the time Miller tested (not that it makes much difference when talking about NFL policies). Someone please correct me if that is inaccurate. The Broncos just need to get out of the negative media spotlight for a while... that will be their first W.
                          Last edited by TRC; 07-22-2013, 11:46 PM.

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                          • kehlis
                            Moderator
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27738

                            #3043
                            Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                            Originally posted by TRC
                            I am not ready to pile on Miller at this point. From what I am reading, this suspension is a result of a positive (recreational) drug test from 2 years ago.
                            Player's can't be suspended for a first time offense so what happened 2 years ago happened again at some point (allegedly).

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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #3044
                              Re: Official Denver Broncos Thread

                              Originally posted by mestevo
                              Probably not a lot, but could lead to a fight over details if the Broncos want to protect themselves from a future year-long suspension from someone who 'didnt do anything wrong' 3-4 times at that point.

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                              Denver Broncos would be the people hurt most if star pass-rusher Von Miller loses his appeal and is suspended four games for violating the NFL's drug policy

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                              • mestevo
                                Gooney Goo Goo
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19556

                                #3045
                                Yeah, was mostly talking about when he's up for a new contact, but will certainly be a costly suspension.

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