Washington Redskins Official Thread

[Perceptor]

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Brennan looked good....better than I thought although Campbell will need to continue to play like this for the Skins to compete. He looked comfortable in Zorn's offense and the Skins could be better than a lot of people think if they can stay healthy

[N51_rob]

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Looks like Marcus Mason will get a lot of work against the Bills tonight. I want to see him against the 1's so this will be good to see. Zorn said that he might make the team. We have some quality at the position, so I doubt that we carry 4 RB's so who's job would he take? Rock's? Or maybe we carry 4 on the 53 man roster.

Sucks that we are short two offensive tackles for this game.

Edit:Okay and Mason fumbles the ball on the opening kickoff. Not a good start.

[wwharton]

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It'd actually be 5 backs if Mason makes it. Portis, Betts, Rock, Sellars, Mason

[Cebby]

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It'd actually be 5 backs if Mason makes it. Portis, Betts, Rock, Sellars, Mason

For the RB situation, Mason will be on the practice squad, and barring a trade or injury to Portis, Betts, or Rock, he'll be picked up by someone else next year. RB is way to easy to fill to keep such a marginal player like Mason on the team. He's not anywhere close to Portis or Betts as a back, nor is he as good as Rock at the return spot. He's cute and all, but he's a preseason running back. With our old*** OL, fragile WRs, and a defense, I'd prefer a backup there than a running back who won't contribute.

[wwharton]

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I think he may be closer to Betts than you give credit for (with the thought that Betts is still living off of two years ago... came down a bit last year, and that Mason could show more with the opportunity). With that said, I agree with you unless they decide to trade Betts to make room for Mason, which I don't think is a good idea (one proven cheap guy for one unproven cheap guy).

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Betts' time in DC is slowly running out from I've heard.

[Perceptor]

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I know it's still early and pre-season, but I really like what I've seen from Campbell. He's picking up the offense well enough and I really hope he continues to develop and be the player I think he can be with this offense.

[Cebby]

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Betts' time in DC is slowly running out from I've heard.

And the topic is "NFL players who's time isn't running out"...

This isn't the NBA or baseball. The minute you're drafted in the NFL, you're on the way out with the exception being quarterback and kickers.

[N51_rob]

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How long is Betts got on the new deal? He is a servicable number 2. Rock was a FB in college and while he is a good special teams player if Portis or Betts were to go down I don't really like him as the number 2 per se. So with the WCO have we gotten rid of he H-back? Zellers was really good in that position with Cooley.

I just liked seeing Mason do well, he is a local guy from Potomac, MD. I'm not dilusional about his skill set. I would just like to see him run with the 1's in one of these game. He looked good in the HOF game.

Yes perceptor I agree about Campbell. He ran the WCO his senior year and had the best year of his time at Auburn. Cebby you might be more equiped to speak about his time there. Everything that I have seen thus far in the preseason leads me to beleive that Jason is more comfortable with this scheme. I just look to see more improvement in the next game.

I am concerned that of our second round picks only Fred Davis is getting on the field. I would like to see the others in action sometime before the season starts. The receivers are Moss, Randle el, Thomas, Kelly, Thrash and....? If we keep one more I really hope that it isn't McMullen, I would rather see Nix as the 6th WR. But that would be 5 or (6) WR, 3 TE, 3 QB, 5 RB. That is 16 or 17 of 53 roster spots already. I don't think that we will keep 6 WR though so that means that 2 of the 5 WR haven't played at game speed half way through the preseason, and they are rookies in the WCO. That gives me a little pause. Or I could be crazy and just rambling this fine morining.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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And the topic is "NFL players who's time isn't running out"...

This isn't the NBA or baseball. The minute you're drafted in the NFL, you're on the way out with the exception being quarterback and kickers.

I guess L.T and Mr. Wayne and Mr. Edwards are on their way out real soon huh man.

[vsoul86]

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I guess L.T and Mr. Wayne and Mr. Edwards are on their way out real soon huh man.

L.T. is.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Then so are Mr. Westbrook and Mr. Johnson(LJ) and Mr. Barber and Mr. Portis and Mr. Lynch. Want me to keep going?

[N51_rob]

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redskins.com is reporting that Erasmus James practiced for the first time today.

[Cebby]

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Then so are Mr. Westbrook and Mr. Johnson(LJ) and Mr. Barber and Mr. Portis and Mr. Lynch. Want me to keep going?

Lynch isn't, nor is Barber, but Portis, Johnson, LDT, and Westbrook are on the way out. Westbrook is in the best position because he started late, but the other 3 have some serious mileage on them. LDT, Johnson, and Westbrook will turn 30 in 2009, and Portis has been ridden very hard behind a mediocre offensive line in Washington. Portis and LJ have the biggest disadvantages because their lines are much weaker than they were a few years ago, but LT has been ridden very hard up to this point and has been very lucky with injuries. I'll say that by the start of the 2010 season, 1 of those will be off the team completely after injury, 2 will be splitting time, and 1 will have another year as a starter. With the injuries and the quality coming from college, no team needs to be playing 30 year olds with 6-10 years of starting experience.

Time is running out isn't the same as on their way out soon. You have generally 3-5 years as a starter before you're really slowing down. Thomlinson is lucky because he has the best run blocking OL in the world which will prolong his run a little longer, but especially with backs, you're generally not improving after 3-5 years.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Portis has been ridden very hard behind a mediocre offensive line in Washington

They've actually been one of the best Run Blocking O-Lines in the league that past few seasons and mediocre is FAR from what I would describe them. Hell when healthy, they're easily a Top 10 O-Line. So if anything, Portis has one of the biggest advantages with that line. Plus, if one of the starters happen to go down, they have good depth on their bench to come in and hold down the spot til one of them comes back(see 2007 season)

2010 is a little too early I think. Most, if not ALL of them should still be starters on their teams considering the fact that most of them just signed brand new contract extensions UNLESS their production starts to drop DRAMATICALLY, but I just don't see that happening with either of these players mentioned.

And you're right, no team needs to be playing 30 year old RBs with the quality of talent coming out of college, but seeing how Running Back is one of the, if not THE hardest position to learn, how many are coming out and are ready to go off the break? Not that many.

You look at backs like Portis, Edge, LT, and even Warrick Dunn. Backs who have been starting in this league the last 5 years and none of them don't look like their slowing down a bit.

I just think you're overestimating the lifespan of you being a starter in the league.