Important Info Regarding Period Lengths!

[Majingir]

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Average shots per game in the NHL range from about 25 to 34 these days.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/stats/team-shots-per-game/2013/

With about 7-10% of those shots going in for goals, on average.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/st...rcentage/2013/

I know that, which is why I would've liked for the shots on goal stat to have been lower, maybe over time I'll figure out a way for me to do that while being able to keep the longer periods,though I doubt it, but worst scenario would just be going to 11 min periods or something since when it was at 10 before,I was getting in high 20s-low 30s in terms of shots.

[vauclair]

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Very intersting stuff, guys.
I play 16 minute periods and already kind of wondered if I actually indeed play 16 minute in real time or not
With regards to shot total. I usually have around 40 shots, often times less, sometimes more. it also depends on how you play. Since I try to play kind of realistic hockey, I often do circles or also take time to change my lines while staying behind my own goal etc. so 16 minutes works fine for me with also decent penalty minutes. However, you may have to tweak your slides. I put all of the shot accuracy sliders to zero, otherwise I would have too many shots on goal. However, I am still happy with that since also in real hockey not every shot hits the net

[JezFranco]

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I don't have the full game yet, but really this couldn't be so hard to test.

Since penalty scaling and number of penalties must be taken out of the equation, you'll test it like this.

1) Start a game with human vs human.
2) After face off, do nothing.
... And clock the period, without whistles, without penalties. How long does a 10 minute period take?


And for anyone that has some spare time, play through the game and also clock the 3rd period.
But again, it's important that you do nothing, as penalties would change the actual time it takes depending on the scaling.

(Worth noting, in the old games at least, penalty scaling is only present when there's a PK/PP. It is not present in a 4v4 for example).

[tomzennsbruh]

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The NHL series has had their time like this since Sega Genesis

[canucksss]

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I actually remember starting a thread on this same exact topic way back when it was NHL 11 or 12 I think. When I was playing the game I could easily tell the period lengths were not correct so I started tracking them. I've always played at least 12 minute periods and they were lasting like 9 or so. I just do not understand their logic on this but then again I don't understand their logic on most things in this game.

I remember that this issue was raised before and thanks to Majingir for giving the link. So you guys still playing NHL 15? You actually both this product?

Anyhow....what is the best period length to have a realistic stats? Hopefully in 16 the missing modes/features are back.

[bwiggy33]

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I remember that this issue was raised before and thanks to Majingir for giving the link. So you guys still playing NHL 15? You actually both this product?

Anyhow....what is the best period length to have a realistic stats? Hopefully in 16 the missing modes/features are back.

I didn't buy NHL 15 so I haven't played it. Maybe I'll see what the tuners and patches are like as they get released and possibly buy it when it's on sale. I just doubt it will be worth it for me because the problems we've all had for years haven't been addressed, so it's hard to believe they ever will be. Not having the ability to use edited rosters is also a massive problem for player separation.

[canucksss]

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Not having the ability to use edited rosters is also a massive problem for player separation.

Besides all the other issues of this game, I dont understand why EA is not allowing us to use edited rosters. I didnt buy NHL 14 but I read that tons of guys enjoying the game BECAUSE of the edited rosters. Since they cannot make player separation then allow us to do it. I dont know why my line 4 (ex Sestito) can do all talented players are doing...dekeing, shooting etc. I have NHL 15 as a gift but I haven't played it for the past week. I will go to EB this weekend and use this to make down payment for NBA 2k15.

[bigwill33]

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My guess is they don't allow editing for the same reasons they couldn't get club/otp working; altering the ratings probably broke the game in ways they couldn't fix in time. I could see the physics doing wonky stuff if certain players are edited in certain ways. Or the game may just crash if things are altered in certain ways.

If it was easy it probably would've made it in. Unfortunately, at EA NHL studios nothing appears to be easy for them.

[Majingir]

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Anyhow....what is the best period length to have a realistic stats? Hopefully in 16 the missing modes/features are back.

I'd say maybe 12 or so minutes. Though depends on slider sets since they'll obviously produce diff results. Main thing to just check is shots on goals and stuff and see if it's a good amount.

[actionhank]

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Besides all the other issues of this game, I dont understand why EA is not allowing us to use edited rosters. I didnt buy NHL 14 but I read that tons of guys enjoying the game BECAUSE of the edited rosters. Since they cannot make player separation then allow us to do it. I dont know why my line 4 (ex Sestito) can do all talented players are doing...dekeing, shooting etc. I have NHL 15 as a gift but I haven't played it for the past week. I will go to EB this weekend and use this to make down payment for NBA 2k15.

In regards to the rosters, I shelved NHL14 about 2 months after purchase. The legacy gameplay issues that never got resolves, the behind-the-net AI goals, and borderline garbage goalie AI just got me so frustrated with the game that i couldn't play a whole game and enjoy it. The rosters from EA just made it more frustrating.
When the Revamped Team released their Olympic rosters, i made a few roster tournaments for fun, found some sliders, and enjoyed it again. Then they released their trade deadline rosters and i started playing more again, until the PS3 died. They saved a game that i regretted purchasing after a few months.

Also, this time stuff is really interesting. Everyone thinking that the comeback AI existing, despite EA saying it wasn't makes more sense now.

[ParisB]

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I'd say maybe 12 or so minutes. Though depends on slider sets since they'll obviously produce diff results. Main thing to just check is shots on goals and stuff and see if it's a good amount.

For me it's 8 minutes. If I play 12 minutes, the shots on goal for both teams will be 40+.

[bingyp]

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Played another game using 15 min period and it took me 45 minutes to complete,which sounds about right when you add everything up.

Maybe that's EA's thinking. Speed game time up so overall period length is about right!!

[Majingir]

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Played a 13 min period game and had game speed at 1. Here's results I had.

Me:
4 goals
35 shots
5 powerplays

AI:
1 goal
33 shots
1 powerplay


And it took under 40 minutes to complete, so it does seem like period length does reflect actual time it'll take to play. Clock might be accelerated,but seems like it's to compensate the extra time like breaks in play so that the overall playing time will be a specific time,even if the clock might not show that.

[bwiggy33]

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Played a 13 min period game and had game speed at 1. Here's results I had.

Me:
4 goals
35 shots
5 powerplays

AI:
1 goal
33 shots
1 powerplay


And it took under 40 minutes to complete, so it does seem like period length does reflect actual time it'll take to play. Clock might be accelerated,but seems like it's to compensate the extra time like breaks in play so that the overall playing time will be a specific time,even if the clock might not show that.

These time results just prove the exact direction the developers have had for this game. The developers want you to get through games in a short time span. You very rarely see offsides, icings (I guess sometimes you can), and pucks going over the glass. They just want you to speed through games and that's why it's up and down back and forth action all the time. It just amazes me that with NBA 2k and Madden you can actually play the exact minute games that they play in real life and adjust the sliders to make it realistic. All I want is a hockey game where I can play full 20 minute periods and have realistic results. That will never ever happen though and that's just the nature of the sport being replicated in a video game. Hockey is just too hard to program. I've never understood how people can play less than at least 10 minute periods and have fun though. I think I'm just one of those guys who is completely different than most. I play 12 minute quarters on NBA (when I have played the game), 15 minute quarters on Madden, Full 9 innings no quick counts on slow speed between pitches in The Show, and no doubt I would play 45 minute halves in soccer games if it were realistic.

[Majingir]

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For me, I just play games which take around 40 minutes,regardless the sport.

Madden and MLB you can at least get realistic results while playing a game that'll take maybe 40 minutes total to play, but sucks for games like NHL and NBA where it's harder to do so. NBA is the hardest just because if you want a realistic score, you have to have unrealistic shooting percentage and stuff.