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  • headzapp
    Rookie
    • Jun 2012
    • 304

    #16
    Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

    Originally posted by Cletus
    I'm not sure why they would release a demo. It's basically NHL 15 with goalie improvements and EASHL (if you have a group of guys who still support this game). I'm sure the team put a lot of work into the game, but there's not a lot that they've announced that you would notice in a demo.
    Better ai defense. Better defense positioning. Sliders to make the stick not go through players. Better presentation. Real stadium atmosphere. Team goal horns and songs. Better puck physics. Fixed glitched goals. Doesn't seem the same as 15 to me.

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    • av7
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2007
      • 11408

      #17
      Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

      Originally posted by lions67
      this place is getting to be as bad as the EA forums.
      so much whining.
      i think the changes that have been announced for NHL 16 have been excellent and i look forward to getting my hands on this.
      Its getting hard for certain games to grab the interest of both hardcore fans and those who may be new. NHL is one sport I just recently started to take interest in and it can be hard to just jump into a sport without any real knowledge.

      I hope NHL 16 brings the tutorial section like Madden has in regards to strategy and formations.
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      • bad_philanthropy
        MVP
        • Jul 2005
        • 12167

        #18
        Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

        I for one am excited for 16. I was excited for 15, and it was a shocking last minute let down. Everything about the way it was handled was a mess—especially the hidden under-developed state of it.

        I enjoy a lot of the constructive criticism/dreaming for the game in this community, and participate in it at times as well. For the most part though, to me, NHL was a huge success last gen. With a pretty decent slider tool box, I was able to have a blast with the game from 07 right through to 15. In that time I'd say 12 was, for me, the least enjoyed game, and 15 the best due to its incremental improvements over the series reset with the skating engine introduced in 13.

        If 16 current gen is another disaster I'll join the more fervent band of EA NHL malcontents.

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        • AdamJones113
          #AyJay
          • Apr 2013
          • 2764

          #19
          Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

          Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
          I for one am excited for 16. I was excited for 15, and it was a shocking last minute let down. Everything about the way it was handled was a mess—especially the hidden under-developed state of it.

          I enjoy a lot of the constructive criticism/dreaming for the game in this community, and participate in it at times as well. For the most part though, to me, NHL was a huge success last gen. With a pretty decent slider tool box, I was able to have a blast with the game from 07 right through to 15. In that time I'd say 12 was, for me, the least enjoyed game, and 15 the best due to its incremental improvements over the series reset with the skating engine introduced in 13.

          If 16 current gen is another disaster I'll join the more fervent band of EA NHL malcontents.
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          • Cletus
            MVP
            • Oct 2004
            • 1771

            #20
            Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

            Originally posted by headzapp
            Better ai defense. Better defense positioning. Sliders to make the stick not go through players. Better presentation. Real stadium atmosphere. Team goal horns and songs. Better puck physics. Fixed glitched goals. Doesn't seem the same as 15 to me.
            I think I've heard this all before. If all of that stuff was really in you would think they would want to show it off in a demo. EA access isn't available for ps4 players so you're basically cutting out a whole console from trying the game early. It seems a little ignorant to me, especially after how terribly received 15 was.
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            • redsox4evur
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2013
              • 18169

              #21
              Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

              Originally posted by Cletus
              I think I've heard this all before. If all of that stuff was really in you would think they would want to show it off in a demo. EA access isn't available for ps4 players so you're basically cutting out a whole console from trying the game early. It seems a little ignorant to me, especially after how terribly received 15 was.
              It's not EA's fault that Access isn't available for the PS4. Blame Sony for that one.
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              • Cletus
                MVP
                • Oct 2004
                • 1771

                #22
                Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

                Originally posted by redsox4evur
                It's not EA's fault that Access isn't available for the PS4. Blame Sony for that one.
                I wasn't blaming them for it. I know the EA Access details, it doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. If your game is so improved from what was the worst in the series then release a demo for everyone to get excited about. The only way to test out this all new reworked EASHL is to buy or rent the worst rated game in the series if you're on ps4.
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                • jkra0512
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 2277

                  #23
                  Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

                  Originally posted by ven0m43
                  My option on EA and its sports titles are pretty low right now.

                  Begin of rant

                  I feel like they're out to just make as much profit as they can year in and year out doing the minimum amount of work. They're at a point where they are satisfied with the status quo, instead of trying to be innovative and push the gaming industry forward. EA spends its time on gimmick features that entice people to buy the game, but dont work properly which then gets removed in the next installment. The same core problems remain in the game year in and year out. For the last decade or so they have been recycling the same things over and over. When a new console comes out they stripe the game now and slowly at the old features back in, until the next time it's time to start over again and repeat the same process. It's sad when a game over 10 years old has more features than the current version. The dlc is integrated into the core game, that adds nothing to the actual game, or should have been included with the game from the start.

                  By doing this they can increase their profits and purchase exclusive contracts from other companies/leagues, preventing others from innovating the games, hence allowing them to keep the status quo. People will continue to buy these games for many reasons, but mainly because there is no alternative, partly do to exclusive licenses.

                  I can go on and on, but I won't
                  You realize EA's main job is to make money for its shareholders, right? I hate it myself, but the quicker people realize this, the easier it is to move on. It's a hard reality, but you'll start understanding why they do some of the things they do, right or wrong. I'll try the beta, but it'll take a lot for me to buy this year's iteration.

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                  • murph17
                    Rock Band FTW!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 1014

                    #24
                    Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

                    Originally posted by Cletus
                    I wasn't blaming them for it. I know the EA Access details, it doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. If your game is so improved from what was the worst in the series then release a demo for everyone to get excited about.
                    Betas and demos take time away from devs to work on them. They had to decide on one or the other, not both. Business decision.

                    So they decide on EASHL beta - they don't want a 100% open beta. Too many servers to run. They want to have control how many people have access. Opening it to everyone all at once and overloading servers doesn't do anyone any good. Defeats the purpose of the beta, doesn't allow them to get good info/feedback, leaves poor taste in people's mouths. Again, business decisions.

                    Who knows...if things go well, maybe they open it up to everyone before the end of the week. Maybe that was their plan all along.

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                    • actionhank
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 1530

                      #25
                      Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

                      No demo sucks, but at least with Redbox you can get a full featured 'demo' a few weeks after release.

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                      • Turbojugend
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 2242

                        #26
                        Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

                        Ehh, I didn't need a demo for either current-gen version of The Show and I won't be needing one for NHL 16. Sounds like NHL 15 with most of the missing features added back in and improved arena atmosphere, which is good enough for me. Then again I'm probably easier to please then most.
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                        • Rsomers21
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                          • Jul 2015
                          • 1

                          #27
                          Is the rumor true that in EASHL club play you aren't able to increase and build your players attributes for NHL 16???

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                          • JJMarley
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 18

                            #28
                            Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

                            I hope they fix teammate AI in this game. Nothing is worse than trying to breakout w the puck behind your own net only to have your teammate skate right in front of you.

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                            • AdamJones113
                              #AyJay
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 2764

                              #29
                              Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

                              Originally posted by Rsomers21
                              Is the rumor true that in EASHL club play you aren't able to increase and build your players attributes for NHL 16???
                              Not a rumour, but true and touted as a feature.
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                              • speels
                                Pro
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 779

                                #30
                                Re: NHL 16 Q&A Update - No Demo, Goaltender Interference & More

                                I'm not too upset about no demo. The gameplay last year was solid, other than some legacy issues, so I really don't need to see what the gameplay is like. Sure it would be nice to checkout the new defensive controls and such, but the demo is such an old build that usually it doesn't even matchup with what you get out of the box. Most of the issues with 2015 came from lack of everything else and a demo sure won't help me figure out what is missing this year.

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