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  • Vmascarello
    Rookie
    • Sep 2014
    • 315

    #61
    Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

    To me, the amount of penalties are a non-issue this year. Maybe they need to add more double minors and majors. Or, different types of penalties. But, Im playing 6 min on All Star with My own variation of AlTitos sliders, and Im seeing a very fair amount of them. And, its usually when your on the rush or applying pressure which makes it realistic.

    I just got done playing NJ and I went 3/5 on the PP. And I had to kill 3 penalties as well. This is about the norm in the games Ive played. Obviously, theres been games only a few were called. But, it seems like thats got a lot better for '16.

    There are certainly other things that dont work properly but I personally dont think penalties are one of them.

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    • StraightEdge
      Pro
      • Sep 2006
      • 650

      #62
      Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

      I've played three or four games so far and have yet to go on the power play once.

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      • jake19ny
        MVP
        • Mar 2011
        • 1938

        #63
        Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

        Based on the mixed variety of posts it is clearly evident the penalty system is broken. Period. Guys like Sham are not wrong in their assessment of how to achieve more penalties and some guys have found successful, just right slider tweaks that work for THEM. I emphasize THEM because everyone plays different so my perfect slider tweaks could be a horror show for some one else.....But that's where the penalty system breaks down. Playing a realistic style of hockey will draw sone penalties that would be drawn in those situations but where are the behind the play calls? Where are the coincidental minors? Where are the after whistle penalties? These were all in the game a few years back. Now let's get crazy....where are the bench minors? Too many men on the ice....bottom line is we shouldn't have to spend hours tweaking the game to get something that should exist properly out of the box regardless of your play style or slider preference. This was an issue for Madden for years. Sure I could get penalties. But they were always the same few. This year in Madden I'm seeing everything at any time and it's very realistic and random which is fantastic because it can alter the game. At the end of the day I'm enjoying NHL 16 and so far and like others have found a way to get enough calls but let's NONE OF US kid ourselves about wether or not there is a problem. There is. Maybe this is something for the NHL 17 wish list thread in the future.
        Last edited by jake19ny; 09-17-2015, 03:43 PM.

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        • THESHAMISASHAME
          MVP
          • Mar 2013
          • 1482

          #64
          Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

          Hockey is a unique sport as far as penalties go as theres so many different types that no other major sport has and would be pretty hard to do on all levels as I have played with certain sliders and all of a sudden saw penalties I dont normally see so its safe to say most are in there .

          Now certain penalties like to many men on the ice would have to be randomly generated by the AI and for me thats the last thing I want in a sports video game which is less control like Im not even playing just for the sake of some sim or just to say wow a too many man on the Ice penalty.

          The best thing about EA NHL is that it combines Sim and player skill and I wouldnt ever wanna lose that and would fight against it at all costs as video games are meant to be played and not watched IMO .

          But if they could generate something fair like Madden finally did with penalties where its semi realistic and not cheap that wont totally wreck the game then maybe it might work ?

          But all in all I just have fun playing the game and enjoying everything it does right instead of constantly looking for its faults but thats just me as I always try to see the good and fun in video games

          Im not saying its perfect but penalties arent broken in this game or last years as my factual proof showed in the links I provided and even a few slider tweaks here or there can really change this game and thats why I play on AS near default because if you do gut one slider you sures as heck better find the other to balance it like MKHarsh did to go with his skill level as its the biggest variable in drawing penalties.
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          • gopher_guy
            The Kaptain
            • Jul 2011
            • 7389

            #65
            Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

            I've been consistently very happy with the amount of penalties I'm seeing (in both GM mode and BAP)
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            • THESHAMISASHAME
              MVP
              • Mar 2013
              • 1482

              #66
              Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

              Originally posted by gopher_guy
              I've been consistently very happy with the amount of penalties I'm seeing (in both GM mode and BAP)
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              • jake19ny
                MVP
                • Mar 2011
                • 1938

                #67
                Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

                I would say it's more frustration on most peoples part rather than complaining. I for one am quite pleased with NHL 16 so far for the most part however this is a penalties thread so were going to post our pros and cons I suppose 😉. Regardless of my views on the penalty situation as long as continue to average 3.0 or better per game for each side I will be happy. I get you on the too many men on the ice thing as it would be hard. Maybe if when your guys are changing and just before a guy gets off the ice bear the boards, sometimes the puck comes that way and you click to closest guy to the puck and take him back over the other guy would jump on and cause the penalty. Of course the CPU would have to be random which could cause issues if not implemented right.

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                • Simple Mathematics
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1791

                  #68
                  Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

                  There are some things in here that I don't agree with at all. Hockey is not about getting into your zone and immediately unleashing a slap shot at the goalie. Hockey is also not about figure skating and prancing around your offensive zone protecting the puck looking to draw a penalty. If a player did either of these things in real life, he'd be benched and would not play in the NHL much longer.

                  In real life, penalties are drawn from beating your opposing defender. When a forward gains an advantage on a defenseman, the defenseman will do whatever it takes to not allow him to march right in and set a perfect pass or get an easy shot. A defending player will hold, interfere, trip, hook, or do whatever it takes to impede the progress of an opposing player who is beating them.

                  There are also dumb penalties. Like an accidental trip, a slash out of frustration, boarding, charging, too many men on the ice, roughing, elbowing, slashing penalties from breaking an opposing player's stick, etc. These penalties happen multiple times in every single hockey game. Nobody is perfect. Sometimes you charge the hell out of someone out of frustration or to send a message. Sometimes you'll elbow the hell out of a guy down in the corner to gain a little space or to get that dude who's been banging on you all game long off of your back.

                  As for playing in the offensive zone, it's not about deking and doing circles with the puck. It's not about doing quick turns. It's not about drawing penalties. It's about putting the puck in the back of the net. Teams have to cycle, and players have to constantly keep their feet moving and not get caught flat footed. Offense is about getting your big guys to cause havoc in front of the net and down in the corners. Having a good puck moving defenseman to distribute the puck and pitch in on offense. It's about the dump and chase and hustling your butt off to beat your opponent down the ice and forecheck the hell out of them to get the puck back. Offense is about finding openings by passing and looking for a quality shot. It's about driving the net. It's about getting the puck on net low to get rebounds and get garbage goals.

                  That's real hockey.
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                  • MDgolf
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 1421

                    #69
                    Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

                    Originally posted by StraightEdge
                    I've played three or four games so far and have yet to go on the power play once.

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                    Ditto


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                    • canucksss
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2956

                      #70
                      Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

                      Ok...I got my copy from Gamefly, I decided to rent it. Haven't played it yet, so after it d/l i turned off my PS4 and went back to work. Now my question, I need to go online and try to play a game and then it will ask me to d/l like that of a tuner so I can get accurate and increase powerplay/penalties?

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                      • jake19ny
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1938

                        #71
                        Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

                        Originally posted by Simple Mathematics
                        There are some things in here that I don't agree with at all. Hockey is not about getting into your zone and immediately unleashing a slap shot at the goalie. Hockey is also not about figure skating and prancing around your offensive zone protecting the puck looking to draw a penalty. If a player did either of these things in real life, he'd be benched and would not play in the NHL much longer.

                        In real life, penalties are drawn from beating your opposing defender. When a forward gains an advantage on a defenseman, the defenseman will do whatever it takes to not allow him to march right in and set a perfect pass or get an easy shot. A defending player will hold, interfere, trip, hook, or do whatever it takes to impede the progress of an opposing player who is beating them.

                        There are also dumb penalties. Like an accidental trip, a slash out of frustration, boarding, charging, too many men on the ice, roughing, elbowing, slashing penalties from breaking an opposing player's stick, etc. These penalties happen multiple times in every single hockey game. Nobody is perfect. Sometimes you charge the hell out of someone out of frustration or to send a message. Sometimes you'll elbow the hell out of a guy down in the corner to gain a little space or to get that dude who's been banging on you all game long off of your back.

                        As for playing in the offensive zone, it's not about deking and doing circles with the puck. It's not about doing quick turns. It's not about drawing penalties. It's about putting the puck in the back of the net. Teams have to cycle, and players have to constantly keep their feet moving and not get caught flat footed. Offense is about getting your big guys to cause havoc in front of the net and down in the corners. Having a good puck moving defenseman to distribute the puck and pitch in on offense. It's about the dump and chase and hustling your butt off to beat your opponent down the ice and forecheck the hell out of them to get the puck back. Offense is about finding openings by passing and looking for a quality shot. It's about driving the net. It's about getting the puck on net low to get rebounds and get garbage goals.

                        That's real hockey.
                        Thank you. Just about all of that is missing also....

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                        • jake19ny
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1938

                          #72
                          Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

                          Originally posted by canucksss
                          Ok...I got my copy from Gamefly, I decided to rent it. Haven't played it yet, so after it d/l i turned off my PS4 and went back to work. Now my question, I need to go online and try to play a game and then it will ask me to d/l like that of a tuner so I can get accurate and increase powerplay/penalties?
                          No. I was able to back out at the team select a team after finding me a match up and then let me know an update has been installed.

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                          • jake19ny
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1938

                            #73
                            Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

                            Was just reading a funny rant in another thread and it brang something to my attention. We keep talking about the penalty slider having no effect on the game well what about the players individual Discipline ratings? Unlike penalty slider that's only 1-6 the player Discipline rating can go from 0-100. Well I tried lowering a players discipline to 0 and tested it out. Zip zero nada....no increase in penalties. With a zero rating he should take a penalty every shift. On a side note...how about fighting? You can choose often, sometimes, rarely, or never. Perhaps I grew up with the wrong definition of never because the guys that have "never" under fighting....fight sometimes. I have always felt the last few years that most sliders don't work or do very little. I'm starting to thing player attributes are the same. These sliders and editable attributes are mere eye candy. In fact I think EA has been using pre builds , like they have given us in EASHL, on their rosters for years now and tweaking doesn't do much. Just a thought.

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                            • JezFranco
                              Pro
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 725

                              #74
                              Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

                              Originally posted by jake19ny
                              Was just reading a funny rant in another thread and it brang something to my attention. We keep talking about the penalty slider having no effect on the game well what about the players individual Discipline ratings? Unlike penalty slider that's only 1-6 the player Discipline rating can go from 0-100. Well I tried lowering a players discipline to 0 and tested it out. Zip zero nada....no increase in penalties. With a zero rating he should take a penalty every shift. On a side note...how about fighting? You can choose often, sometimes, rarely, or never. Perhaps I grew up with the wrong definition of never because the guys that have "never" under fighting....fight sometimes. I have always felt the last few years that most sliders don't work or do very little. I'm starting to thing player attributes are the same. These sliders and editable attributes are mere eye candy. In fact I think EA has been using pre builds , like they have given us in EASHL, on their rosters for years now and tweaking doesn't do much. Just a thought.
                              Yup, the discipline rating should really affect how many of those unnecessary penalties a player takes.
                              And isn't this a problem in general with sliders and attributes in the NHL games.
                              You have attributes that's on a 0-100 scale, but yet it seems that on zero it's still giving the player a pro attribute not too far after guy that's on 100.
                              Just like you said, if you set a slap shot attribute to zero on a guy, that fella should hardly be able to hit the puck, nevermind the goal.
                              Likewise if you set the penalty slider to max, the ref should call penalties every time two players happens to softly nudge each other, or if you set the CPU Penalty sliders to max, the players should just jump over the board every shift doing the best Paul Bunyan impression they can.

                              I.e with sliders/attributes on max or minimum it should give you "unrealistic" and excessive results... but most sliders in this game at best gives vague differences on ice.

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                              • MDgolf
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 1421

                                #75
                                Re: NHL 16 Penalties?

                                A still no penalties in my be a gm


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