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  • Steven547
    MVP
    • May 2004
    • 3796

    #91
    Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

    Originally posted by jake19ny
    I agree for the most part. I think though they get their marching orders from the top and are told that HUT and online play come first and foremost. I also think they work under a limited budget. I highly doubt that they get the finances and resources Madden and FIFA get.
    My problem with the excuse that they get their order from the top is that "AI logic" is something that the DEVS should have caught or addressed from the start. The guys at the top might say what to concentrate on, but AI Logic is a part of the ground floor for developing this game.

    There are way too many AI issues with this game along with numerous other things that need fixed and have needed fixed for many years, but get ignored. The main building block of any sports game is AI.

    It's time to stop creating excuses for EA. Unfortunately, there are too many consumers who will continue to buy EA's product even with the year after year glaring issues. And EA knows that...so why fix something we're just going to buy again next year regardless?

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    • DJ
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2003
      • 17756

      #92
      Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

      Originally posted by jake19ny
      Weird. I haven't checked myself but an EA Dev on the EA forums said the Ducks and the Avs 3rd jerseys are in the update.
      Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
      All the jerseys are there, but you have to download the latest roster update manually as well.
      Originally posted by bowld
      Its in there.

      Anyone know if these new jerseys will also carry over to HUT?
      My fault. I was looking in my Be A GM file. I'm only 5 games in, so I'll just restart with the latest roster so the jerseys will be there.
      Currently Playing:
      MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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      • THESHAMISASHAME
        MVP
        • Mar 2013
        • 1482

        #93
        Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

        Desperate times well I was gonna totally uninstall the game and keep it all offline and do my own rosters but I do coins and cards for a friend so I have to be on daily .

        So I will just just delete my profile daily as its playing pretty good with the out of the box tuner gameplay and physics wise so for anyone having similar issues as many have suggested delete your profile and dont download/update the latest tuners which you will now see on the main screen .

        What we do for our hockey fix
        Finally Roster share in NHL 22 ! Dreams do come true ! To Garryowen and Glory boys !

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        • jake19ny
          MVP
          • Mar 2011
          • 1938

          #94
          Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

          Originally posted by Steven547
          My problem with the excuse that they get their order from the top is that "AI logic" is something that the DEVS should have caught or addressed from the start. The guys at the top might say what to concentrate on, but AI Logic is a part of the ground floor for developing this game.

          There are way too many AI issues with this game along with numerous other things that need fixed and have needed fixed for many years, but get ignored. The main building block of any sports game is AI.

          It's time to stop creating excuses for EA. Unfortunately, there are too many consumers who will continue to buy EA's product even with the year after year glaring issues. And EA knows that...so why fix something we're just going to buy again next year regardless?
          Again I agree but that's why I said its a flawed AI. Maybe failed AI would be a better explanation, I think its not that they wont fix it its that they cant....Its unfixable. Your right its been that way fro years and all the patching and tuners fix a few issues but cant fix the core problems. The only way now would be to rebuild it from scratch and that's where the blame goes upstairs because I don't think they will give the resources or funding to do so. Sure the Devs created this AI but its upper management that insists it be kept on life support instead of pulling the plug and starting over. As far as everyone not buying the game, I believe that if sales failed miserably it would not force them to create a better game but rather then pull the plug on the series like EAs MLB series did and NBA for a while. No guarantees someone else steps in and makes a game so it becomes a personal choice for all to have this flawed NHL or none at all. Stinks but it is what it is.

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          • jake19ny
            MVP
            • Mar 2011
            • 1938

            #95
            Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

            Originally posted by DJ
            My fault. I was looking in my Be A GM file. I'm only 5 games in, so I'll just restart with the latest roster so the jerseys will be there.
            looks I wont get to use the 3rd jerseys. This roster update is missing tons of players still and there is nothing worse then having a guy called, play well, and then not have him in the game. I spent countless hours creating over a hundred guys not in the game and completing each teams AHL roster. I don't have the energy to do it again so I'm S.O.L. on the new jerseys. Will never....and I mean never understand why they stopped using a jersey code instead of stupidly placing it in a roster update. Like the lack of tuner choice mystery, it goes unanswered...

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            • BCDX97
              Rookie
              • Jun 2009
              • 123

              #96
              I still have a glitch where I can't change my Ultimate Team's jersey. The Home jersey won't change no matter what I set it to. Anybody else have this problem?

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              • bingyp
                Rookie
                • Oct 2013
                • 63

                #97
                Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

                Just played with the patch for the first time, two games of HUT offline seasons.

                Immediately noticed the game is much faster, maybe two clicks faster than before. Hitting seems higher powered and shooting is a little harder.

                In short arcade overdose. Not enjoyable to me.

                One thing I have noticed is that, after a goalmouth scramble, the ai defender will turn and take the puck into his own goal, puck and stick just going undetected through the goal. I hoped that would be picked up. It hasnt. Happened in my first game. Ai defender collects the loose puck, spins into the goal, puck and stick going through goal and sometimes goalie, skates away merrily with no goal being called. Happens both for and against.

                This was EA's chance to sort the game out. History shows this is the last patch we get. So much is left undone - collision detection, penalties, abysmal ai, the list is long and yet never seems to get shorter. The same issues plague the game year after year yet all EA can concentrate on is fluff like 9000 spectators and mascots.

                They even seem to remove what works and introduce what doesn't. I much prefer NHL 11. If anything it is 5 years ahead of 16. The ai is better, there are penalties, board play is far better, we can edit and share rosters, 5 man celebrations, 3 stars on the ice, more involved and varied commentary.

                After this patch, I see little from 5 years of "development" except the slightly prettier graphics. To my mind, taken as a whole, the game is worse.

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                • TheBuddyHobbs
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 2312

                  #98
                  Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

                  New patch, 5 minutes at default All-Star/Hardcore sliders except max penalties and game speed at 1.

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                  • AdamJones113
                    #AyJay
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 2764

                    #99
                    Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

                    Poor patch gameplay-wise, in my opinion. EA did a poor job of diagnosing the problems with the previous gamer, and, as a result, changed the wrong things. Playing on AS/Hardcore default.

                    Here's an example. In the previous iteration of gameplay, CPU passing was tic-tac-toe. Why? Because they could snap a pass off without powering up and without regarding the rules of physics. If you were driving a defender (who had the puck) into the boards on the forecheck, he was able to snap off a behind-the-back precision pass to a teammate. But EA diagnosed the problem as being with the reception of the puck, and make the puck harder to pick up (good) but also made the puck pickup animations long and drawn out. The CPU super passes, also doable by humans, is still there. That's not good.

                    Problem #2. CPU teammates are now incredibly passive. Through several games, I have not seen them attempt to body check an opponent. You may say, good, this is more restraint on their parts. But the situation I refer to is when my CPU teammate is RIGHT NEXT TO A PUCK CARRIER, and yet does not move a muscle. Same with the CPU driving into my offensive zone. My CPU teammate makes no move to push the puck carrier out of his lane. This problem of driving animations has been discussed at length, so I will not dig further into this particular example.

                    Maybe I'm saying that most AI-addressed issues in the OP were addressed poorly. Or maybe this game isn't what it could be.
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                    • DJ
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 17756

                      #100
                      Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

                      Originally posted by jake19ny
                      looks I wont get to use the 3rd jerseys. This roster update is missing tons of players still and there is nothing worse then having a guy called, play well, and then not have him in the game. I spent countless hours creating over a hundred guys not in the game and completing each teams AHL roster. I don't have the energy to do it again so I'm S.O.L. on the new jerseys. Will never....and I mean never understand why they stopped using a jersey code instead of stupidly placing it in a roster update. Like the lack of tuner choice mystery, it goes unanswered...
                      To be fair, NBA 2K also introduces uniform updates in roster updates as opposed to using code slime they did in the past, so the NHL team isn't alone here.
                      Currently Playing:
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                      • RevisIsland24
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 30

                        #101
                        They need to fix Dop ins with friends option. Only puts you in a private game. It's also an easy way to boost.

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                        • RevisIsland24
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 30

                          #102
                          Drop in* with friends is broken.

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                          • Elite49
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 211

                            #103
                            Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

                            Those asking about the new Uniforms not being in already made GM's or modes, they are. No need to restart, at all. Just download the new rosters then make sure they are active in the settings. Been using Avs Alts since the patch.

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                            • pm83
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 281

                              #104
                              Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

                              Thanks to PS4's option to download updates by itself I also got 1.04 patch and I must say that I'm really disappointed. I used my own slider set and game was really different. Players were much more passive and I could easily walk in front of the net. One thing which I was really happy earlier was that Defense was rock solid. Now it's all ****ed thanks to 1.04. I was very satisfied earlier with my slider settings combined with first patch and liked how game played offline. Now it's all ruined.

                              Thank you EA for being such a bull**** company to cater for online fans, once again. I have no other option than delete NHL16 and start new adventures with no-patch & out-of-the-box-tuner.

                              Edit: Tried this game with no-patch and just wow, there's no option to put Icon OFF. I also used my custom rosters and goalies didn't wear any gloves. Seems like I have to play with patch after all. May I say again that this is BS!
                              Last edited by pm83; 11-08-2015, 10:13 AM.

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                              • CanuckJ
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 1001

                                #105
                                Re: NHL 16 Patch 1.04 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4, Full Details Included

                                Really enjoyed my 1st post patch game, the color of the line changes really didn't work with the selection color before but now it looks great. I can clearly tell how fatigued each line is even when I have that line selected.

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