Absolutely HORRIBLE Goaltending in NHL 17

[drog1602]

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Are the goalies bad or is it that the offence is too overpowered?

[NinthFall]

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Are the goalies bad or is it that the offence is too overpowered?

Goalies are bad. I mean, they are just out of position all the time, they also slide extremely slowly out of crease and rebound control they are slower than I've ever seen in any NHL.

Offence is fine In my opinion, it's harder to defend because the players turn slower this year, but you can learn it. However, the goalies will let in weak slappers from any regular points.

Before switching to full sim they let in an average of 3-4 goals a game from 8-10 shots a game.

[jeebs9]

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So this happened last night.... I think the goal got stuck in the icing animations. That needs to change big time. I could imagine that is is to do over again.


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Even thought all my other goal in this game were legit. That goal BS.

[Viktor]

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lol! while I haven't had anything as bad as that, there are some definite cheese goals and comeback logic that needs fixing.

[Rubio809]

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The pucks bouncing up and over the back of the goalies and in is my biggest gripe. Way too many of them.

[T5063]

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This goalie thing is really ruining an otherwise really enjoyable game for me.


Its really frustrating when your goalie lets in 8 goals on 18 shots one game and then 4 goals on 5 shots in the third period of another game, blowing the lead for you. Meanwhile, I'm struggling just to get 3 or 4 goals on 30 shots.

[solidus29]

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Wish we had more communication with the devs - eager to know when we can expect a patch.

[Rubio809]

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So this happened last night.... I think the goal got stuck in the icing animations. That needs to change big time. I could imagine that is is to do over again.


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Even thought all my other goal in this game were legit. That goal BS.

And I thought Fleury wasn't pi**ed that Murray was getting playing time...



See :38 mark.

[NinthFall]

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Goalies are just way too stuck in their animations, their reaction time is absolutely garbage. The more I play the more I learn this.

It's sad because you really can't defend everything. Against AI, sometimes AI just does that tikitaki goal and you try to pokecheck but it's ineffective.

[jeebs9]

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This one is worst. This was in a human vs Human match offline.

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Details on that shot. I pressed to pass it up the boards with R1 (But I'm still learning this whole dump and chase thing). And I totally didn't mean to aim at the net.

[Viktor]

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Just to make sure I understand correctly, is the dotted line where you are aiming the stick or is that the game's suggested passing lane? As a defender in BAP I was back checking along the boards, grabbed the puck and was going to pass to a teammate dead even with me center ice. I pass it, only for it to end up going to another teammate at the blue line, probably 10 feet or so behind where I was aiming. Of course other team picks off the puck in this case.

I go into the replay, see that I am aiming perfectly at my intended target, and the split second I pass, that dotted line changes to the other teammate. BS I say.

[BigBadAss33]

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They were supposed to fix the weak goalies from NHL 16 for NHL 17 and even marketed the NHL 17 with all new goalie system, but the goaltending is almost worse than before.

Goalies are out of the crease now more than ever before and weak wrist shots go in more than often AND goalies are super fcucking slow.

The only thing goalies now learned is to use their stick

I have 88 overall luongo who lets in so many weak shots *** **** his saving % as of now is 0.767

Here I uploaded 2 videos to show as examples

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzJ9aKJJlcA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vV_K7PEyQM

That's because Luongo is a sieve. It can't get any more realistic imo!!!!

[T5063]

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I've been fiddling with sliders and settings to try to fix the goalies.


Every time I think I have it figured out the CPU goes on a multiple scoring burst against me (ei 4 goals on 6 shots that the goalie should've easily stopped) and its back to the drawing board.


The best solution I have found so far is to bump up the Human goalie reaction sliders to about 90. This has given me more realistic GAA and save percentages. I hate doing this because I like even sliders for human and CPU but until/if this gets fixed with a patch its the best solution I've found.


Also, like other posters said, the goalies do get stuck in the animations which allows the CPU to easily score on rebounds. The goalie gets stuck in an animations for a split second which leaves a portion of the net wide open. Then they can't react fast enough before a CPU player puts the rebound into the open portion of the net.

[swampgator]

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Just to make sure I understand correctly, is the dotted line where you are aiming the stick or is that the game's suggested passing lane? As a defender in BAP I was back checking along the boards, grabbed the puck and was going to pass to a teammate dead even with me center ice. I pass it, only for it to end up going to another teammate at the blue line, probably 10 feet or so behind where I was aiming. Of course other team picks off the puck in this case.

I go into the replay, see that I am aiming perfectly at my intended target, and the split second I pass, that dotted line changes to the other teammate. BS I say.

I gave the game another shot last night before returning it today. Had that exact thing happen. I believe the yellow cone is where your passing, dotted line is suggested (it is actually the aiming for saucer pass though, go figure, thanks EA) and the blue cone is a lane.
But everything was pointing right to my teammate perfectly only for my pass to go left of where I was aiminh, right into a defender. I was gliding too. No fancy skating bs.

[swampgator]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN3OLU0SM0o

Look at this. This is definitely NOT how 88 overall goalie behaves, it's not even a weak goal anymore, the goalie is drunk or something

And sad part is this happens every game, Luongo currently struggling to keep 0.800 saving %

Also watch the AI defending, what is that

Again, I must say that this is the official online/offline competitive all-star difficulty I'm using. U can fix this with sliders I assume

This is absolute bull****. EA needs to address this poke check problem. There's no reason:
1) the poke check should have physically happened at that angle
2) your defenseman should have made no effort for the puck
3) the puck should have gathered that much speed off a poke check

This happens CONSTANTLY. And it's bull**** because people who hang their sticks or don't protect the puck get 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th chances. And then bs goals like that happen. That is literally the game for the last 2 years.