First NHL 12 Video Posted, New Release Date Set [UPDATE: Extra Info Added]

[green94]

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I liked reading this:

And speaking of benches, players on the team are accurately represented on the benches this year, including the entire roster right down to the backup goaltender nestled in a free corner.

Something about seeing the benches in past games bugged me, glad they fixed this.

[KillHammer]

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Leave it to Fiddy to point out the obvious: Goalie fights were in NHL 2004! First time ever? That statement alone has me worried. How do you not know the history of your own franchise?

They did the same thing last year by saying you could speed burst, hip check and celebrate after a goal for the first time ever.

[bwiggy33]

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After criticizing some of the stale parts of NHL the other day, they have come back pretty well. I'm liking what I'm hearing so far. One of the biggest down falls is goaltending in this game. You can predict exactly what the goalie will do each and every time. Now that the goalie is in play it is going to make it feel much more dynamic, and the goalie will actually think like a real goalie and adjust to the situation presented to them. I want to be able to play the game and say "How in the hell did he make that save" Obviously I want them to play positionally but even the best goalies (Thomas, Luongo, and Niemi) are all over the place during loose pucks around the net. Also the hitting looked a little bit better. The collisions are a little more life like. When a guy goes straight at a player, the player he hits gets stood up instead of flying over the ice like in NHL 11.

It's still hard to take any of the video footage though because it's not an in game kind of a scenario. It may be actual gameplay footage, but not an in game broadcast. It sounds like those are only a select few of the features though which is a good thing. I'm happy that a couple of them were gameplay. Hopefully the next batch of info will be some more gameplay changes.

[Jattbreed]

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I just want presentation, real faces, BE A GM FIXED!!! New sim engine (not Crosby getting 67 pts in 82 games, even if I give him 99 stats in everything. I like online as is, I'm a more drop in OTP player.

I am completely ignoring the stupid glass breaking, tie ups, Winter Classic crap, I've seen it before in other games by EA and the Winter Classic would've been surprising to me if it was in the game 3 years ago, not now. Give me something real EA, not this sugar coated crap.

[BlueNGold]

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I just want presentation, real faces, BE A GM FIXED!!! New sim engine (not Crosby getting 67 pts in 82 games, even if I give him 99 stats in everything. I like online as is, I'm a more drop in OTP player.

I am completely ignoring the stupid glass breaking, tie ups, Winter Classic crap, I've seen it before in other games by EA and the Winter Classic would've been surprising to me if it was in the game 3 years ago, not now. Give me something real EA, not this sugar coated crap.

Lol. How is battling in front of the net sugar coated crap? Do you not want this game to resemble what we see in real-life?

[savoie2006]

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Lol. How is battling in front of the net sugar coated crap? Do you not want this game to resemble what we see in real-life?

It's not as long it plays out realistically, as does the rest of the game. At this point, there is issues with the rest of the game(AI,Skating and Puck Physics). So even though it all adds a level of authenticity to the game, it's all for not if the rest of the gameplay is largely the same. That's just my opinion. Add all you want, but if it plays like crap, what does it matter and when do you fix what needs to be fixed? Kudos to EA again for the apparent Presentation upgrade. I just hope the gameplay and BAGM recieved similar love.

[bwiggy33]

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Lol. How is battling in front of the net sugar coated crap? Do you not want this game to resemble what we see in real-life?

Agreed! I thought most people wanted net battles. Plus net battles are probably the most important part to hockey. Most goals are scored doing the dirty work in front of the net. Now we are actually able to control that. The video said they added in total control. I assume it's like what they had for last gens games where you hit a button and it switches to whatever guy you want on the rink no matter where the puck is. I'm also assuming they will have different buttons corresponding to the different moves that NHL defenseman do to cover players in front of the net. I believe this could be a major gameplay change if it's done well.

I also thought a lot of people wanted the goalies to feel a part of the game. This has been added. Ya the video doesn't have much glitz, but it is a good start. We have to remember that this is only the first video. Plus we will really never know how everything will play out until we actually play the game for ourselves.

[savoie2006]

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Agreed! I thought most people wanted net battles. Plus net battles are probably the most important part to hockey. Most goals are scored doing the dirty work in front of the net. Now we are actually able to control that. The video said they added in total control. I assume it's like what they had for last gens games where you hit a button and it switches to whatever guy you want on the rink no matter where the puck is. I'm also assuming they will have different buttons corresponding to the different moves that NHL defenseman do to cover players in front of the net. I believe this could be a major gameplay change if it's done well.

I also thought a lot of people wanted the goalies to feel a part of the game. This has been added. Ya the video doesn't have much glitz, but it is a good start. We have to remember that this is only the first video. Plus we will really never know how everything will play out until we actually play the game for ourselves.

Yes, they are both cool aspects to add to the game, BUT based on the video I'm wary of the goalie interaction. If the Goalie interfence penalty is touch or has to potential to be, this will be a very welcome addition. Last year there was a problem with Interference, so I really hope they have that fixed or there will be problems with these two new features.

The checking through the glass and such is also nice, so long as it's a rare occasion. If it happens often, the game starts resembling Hitz rather than a Hockey.

[Dalsanto0026]

I love how people go on rants about features that add to the immersion of the game and whinge about gameplay before they've actually seen it.

I liked the video and can't wait to see more.

[jaiman]

Show me a simple picture of a new real life broadcast camera and I will be sold. Please tell me they added this in! The first step to a presentation overhaul IMO.

[Vikes1]

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I like the fighting for position in the crease, that's a good addition and "everything is live" hopefully means sticks interact with everything when you are carrying them so you can't dangle thru people's limbs anymore.

These are a couple of big ones for me.

The fighting for position in the crease, will hopefully lead to a lot more battles for the puck in and around the paint.

And as you mentioned about the sticks hopefully no longer morphing through things, [legs, etc..] I think that would make a big difference in how the game plays. Huge advantage to the puck carrier when his stick has really no barriers.

[ceeejay]

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You could tie up players in from of the net in NHL 07 on 360. It was actually quite well done.

I dont know a whole lot about playing defense in Hockey, so I would just go and tie up guys in fron tof the net. It gave me something clear to do
rather than flailing and button mashing. The animation was cool too.

I was quite annoyed that it vanished from all subsequent iterations. Glad
its making a comeback but like all the other stuff, its nothing new.

[bwiggy33]

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Yes, they are both cool aspects to add to the game, BUT based on the video I'm wary of the goalie interaction. If the Goalie interfence penalty is touch or has to potential to be, this will be a very welcome addition. Last year there was a problem with Interference, so I really hope they have that fixed or there will be problems with these two new features.

The checking through the glass and such is also nice, so long as it's a rare occasion. If it happens often, the game starts resembling Hitz rather than a Hockey.

Very true. I'm hoping the glass breaking is like seeing HR reviews in MLB The Show but even rarer. There may have been one or two instances this NHL year where the glass broke because of a hit. It doesn't happen often which makes it one of those things where if they leave it out of the game it's perfectly fine, but if it's in the game and done correctly it's a bonus.

The big key for me is the goalie in play addition. This 100% must be done correctly otherwise I think it could make or break the game. Goalies are very touchy in video games and making this big of a change is pretty gutsy I think. My idea of them redoing the goalies was making them move and act more life like, instead of them playing with canned save animations and doing one fast gliding motions across the crease. I would have never thought about having the goalie actually in play and being moved by other players. Hopefully the goalie in play addition led them to also redoing all of the goalie movements and saves as well. It will be really interesting to see this in action.

[Lofton]

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Loved it, I'm pumped for NHL12

As a defensemen I have been wanting to tie up the forwards down low, in front of the goalie.

Now just give me more option whens creating a player . . faces, more gear old school gear and I'll be happy

[renatus]

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so from the video i couldnt tell if you get real arenas finaly?