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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33611

    #1

    NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies


    Check out some of the new NHL 13 screenshots, featuring dynamic goalies.

    NHL 13 arrives in stores on September 11th.
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  • FBeaule04
    MVP
    • Apr 2005
    • 1119

    #2
    Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

    Except from the two pads stack poke check and one-knee paddle down in the middle of the net, I don't see anything different from an NHL 12 pic. Maybe I'm just missing something here.

    I'll get excited when seeing more of how the goalies play when a HUMAN controls them and most important, how the Dynamic Goalies play out in certain situations.

    Until then, unless I'm missing something, I'm not head over heals about those.
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    • Panther84
      Rookie
      • Sep 2003
      • 359

      #3
      Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

      Originally posted by FBeaule04
      Except from the two pads stack poke check and one-knee paddle down in the middle of the net, I don't see anything different from an NHL 12 pic. Maybe I'm just missing something here.

      I'll get excited when seeing more of how the goalies play when a HUMAN controls them and most important, how the Dynamic Goalies play out in certain situations.

      Until then, unless I'm missing something, I'm not head over heals about those.
      Same thing i'm seeing in these pics! even in early videos i don't see much of an improvement in goalie animations.

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      • FBeaule04
        MVP
        • Apr 2005
        • 1119

        #4
        Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

        Originally posted by Panther84
        Same thing i'm seeing in these pics! even in early videos i don't see much of an improvement in goalie animations.
        To be faire to EA, the videos they showed on how Luongo was playing the 2 on 1 was solid but...

        It's not my fault, it's EA's fault if I'm taking everything with a "caution flag" before saying it's out of the park. They deserve that skepticism with the way they worked for the last 3 years. Even more after saying that NHL 13 was the year they put the more work in the AI programming.

        I go back to the Letang-Zetterberg video of last summer when they entertained the fact that the players we're now playing according to where the puck should be instead of reacting to the play. It was really impressive in the video, but the translation in the game itself was non-existent.

        The goalies could make a back flip and end-up sitting on the cross bar in a pic, it won't matter if the AI is as poor it was in NHL 12. Show me a pic where a goalie plays the puck and don't take a penalty for playing it outside the trapezoid. You'll get me interested! ;-)
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        • Steve_OS
          Editor-in-Chief
          • Jul 2002
          • 33611

          #5
          I saw ALL SORTS of goalie animations when I played at E3. Have no worries about that. I'm talkin' limbs moving in all sorts of directions, making it look absolutely realistic. Don't think anyone will have to worry there.
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          • bwiggy33
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            • Jul 2006
            • 2003

            #6
            Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

            Originally posted by Steve_OS
            I saw ALL SORTS of goalie animations when I played at E3. Have no worries about that. I'm talkin' limbs moving in all sorts of directions, making it look absolutely realistic. Don't think anyone will have to worry there.
            Steve quick question, do the goalies shuffle more realistically? All the goalies do is glide across the ice instead of having realistic shuffle movements. They have no momentum at all. It just looks so unnatural and it's been that way since 07. They just move at warp speed all of the time. I'm assuming the answer to my question is no but I may as well ask someone who's played at least the E3 version.

            I really hope that they can fix this for next year if it isn't somewhat fixed this year. All I want is for the goalie to actually look like a real goalie would move.
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            • RealmK
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              • Sep 2003
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              #7
              Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

              Originally posted by bwiggy33
              Steve quick question, do the goalies shuffle more realistically? All the goalies do is glide across the ice instead of having realistic shuffle movements. They have no momentum at all. It just looks so unnatural and it's been that way since 07. They just move at warp speed all of the time. I'm assuming the answer to my question is no but I may as well ask someone who's played at least the E3 version.

              I really hope that they can fix this for next year if it isn't somewhat fixed this year. All I want is for the goalie to actually look like a real goalie would move.
              Just a tad nit picky imo.

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              • bwiggy33
                MVP
                • Jul 2006
                • 2003

                #8
                Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

                Originally posted by RealmK
                Just a tad nit picky imo.
                How is that nit picky? I understand this game isn't 2k8 but why could they make goalies move realistically both standing up and in the butterfly position? Hell that game is almost 4 years old. The goalies in this game move absolutely horrifically. All they do is float across the crease at warp speed. It's exactly like everyone else complained about how players just floated across the ice when they skated (which seems like it got fixed). Why can't I do that about the goalies? They need momentum and character.

                I like that they are focusing on goalies moving all their limbs, but making them move at a realistic rate is not nit picking when movement and reaction is the biggest part to goaltending. They cover up the goalies not making glitch goal saves by making goalies move at warp speed across the crease. That's not how it should be.
                Last edited by bwiggy33; 06-30-2012, 03:02 AM.
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                • RealmK
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                  • Sep 2003
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                  #9
                  Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

                  Originally posted by bwiggy33
                  How is that nit picky? I understand this game isn't 2k8 but why could they make goalies move realistically both standing up and in the butterfly position? Hell that game is almost 4 years old. The goalies in this game move absolutely horrifically. All they do is float across the crease at warp speed. It's exactly like everyone else complained about how players just floated across the ice when they skated. Why is complaining about the goalies skating nit picky?
                  Depends how much the new skating affects goalies. Thing is that's just about the only good out of 2k8. Sure sure some people love pro control, personally I found it to be 2k's trademark clunky unintuitive mess however.

                  I dunno, for me it isn't as bad as people make it out. Certainly not as much a game breaker as the pass reception ease slider being flat out broken.

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                  • Cletus
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 1771

                    #10
                    Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

                    I hope the puck "plays" to it's actual size. There's a lot of those animations where the puck could go in 5 hole. A lot of times in NHL 12 goalies stopped a lot of shots cleanly and the ones that went in were like magic bullets going through people. It seemed like the puck played bigger than it was, if that makes any sense.
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                    • Rogie Vachon
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                      • Sep 2010
                      • 775

                      #11
                      Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

                      Originally posted by bwiggy33
                      How is that nit picky? I understand this game isn't 2k8 but why could they make goalies move realistically both standing up and in the butterfly position? Hell that game is almost 4 years old. The goalies in this game move absolutely horrifically. All they do is float across the crease at warp speed. It's exactly like everyone else complained about how players just floated across the ice when they skated (which seems like it got fixed). Why can't I do that about the goalies? They need momentum and character.

                      I like that they are focusing on goalies moving all their limbs, but making them move at a realistic rate is not nit picking when movement and reaction is the biggest part to goaltending. They cover up the goalies not making glitch goal saves by making goalies move at warp speed across the crease. That's not how it should be.
                      Asking that the goalies move more realistically = nit picky

                      ROTFLMFAO

                      I hope you knew that response was coming.

                      From what I`m reading,the general movement that you`re asking about is unchanged.

                      Despite improvement,supposedly, in the goalie AI,....and a few new animations,from what I`ve read in the last 24 hrs about the goalies
                      NHL13 is going to be another disappointment for human goalies.

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                      • jesushaxyou
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                        • Jun 2012
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                        #12
                        Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

                        I may or may not shoot myself if that is the case, Rogie. Human goalies need an overhaul. No way it can be ignored AGAIN.

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                        • RealmK
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                          • Sep 2003
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                          #13
                          Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

                          Originally posted by Rogie Vachon
                          Asking that the goalies move more realistically = nit picky

                          ROTFLMFAO

                          I hope you knew that response was coming.

                          From what I`m reading,the general movement that you`re asking about is unchanged.

                          Despite improvement,supposedly, in the goalie AI,....and a few new animations,from what I`ve read in the last 24 hrs about the goalies
                          NHL13 is going to be another disappointment for human goalies.
                          It's a video game. Hey it would be super cool nifty if they mo capped a goalie down to the specific moment his weight transfers from one skate to the other for you guys animations and all. It's A VIDEO GAME.

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                          • Rogie Vachon
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                            • Sep 2010
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                            #14
                            Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

                            Originally posted by RealmK
                            It's a video game. Hey it would be super cool nifty if they mo capped a goalie down to the specific moment his weight transfers from one skate to the other for you guys animations and all. It's A VIDEO GAME.
                            Whatever.....it`s obvious they use very little motion capture for the goalies.
                            As long as the skaters get to move realistically and can have their exploits for scoring it`s all good.

                            Why is it that everyone that has ties to EA pulls this attitude when a legit complaint or comment is made.

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                            • gopher_guy
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                              • Jul 2011
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                              #15
                              Re: NHL 13 Screenshots - Dynamic Goalies

                              Originally posted by Rogie Vachon
                              Whatever.....it`s obvious they use very little motion capture for the goalies.
                              As long as the skaters get to move realistically and can have their exploits for scoring it`s all good.

                              Why is it that everyone that has ties to EA pulls this attitude when a legit complaint or comment is made.
                              How many of their customers actually play as a goalie consistently?

                              I'd guess it's around 5-10%...

                              There are just more pressing issues with the game.
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