NHL 2K10 Patch Mention

[Big Shmooz]

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ditto

This freeze is baffling.

It's because you probably play at a skating speed in your sliders at 51 or above. Try adjusting your slider to any number below 50 & you will start seeing the freeze happen. Your screen will be stuck in a pre drop the puck screen. The linesman will never drop the puck to start gameplay. Btw... the freeze happens on the PS3 as well as the 360. (not sure about the wii)

[savoie2006]

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People have explained the difference to you between both teams approaches more than once, and given valid reasons why they feel the way they do towards 2k's efforts the last couple cycles, yet you continue this nieve stance on it, and toss out the "EA Fanboy" card anytime someone mentions something you don't have a valid arguement for.

Defending an overall major lack of improvement since coming to next gen hasn't helped squat. Hell even Venom is starting to see that. 2k needs to actually DO what they say the're going to do. When WWTC makes a comment like putting the defensive awareness slider on 100 will make the cpu AI pressure you in the neutral zone pre release, then the game comes out and we find that the def AI is an absolute mess and that statement isn't anywhere near true, not to mention the game is already out that means not much info til 2 weeks before 2k11 hits. Well yeah I think people have a right to be a little teed off about it.

It's great that Shadow is at least attempting some communication though, even if its not the detailed info we'd like to see.

I think the Defensive AI is fine. Yeah the defensemen could be a bit more aggressive, but overall the AI on both sides of the Ice is fine for me. Definately not any worse than EA's. Cups has been chirping in, just not here.

[RealmK]

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I think the Defensive AI is fine. Yeah the defensemen could be a bit more aggressive, but overall the AI on both sides of the Ice is fine for me. Definately not any worse than EA's. Cups has been chirping in, just not here.

Really? Its fine that AI defensmen just back their way to the net then more often than not, then usually part like the Red Sea? Fine that they far more often than they should, aimlessly skate away from the play? Really? Thats "fine" to you? Wow I always though you were easy to impress Savoie but seriously. I guess the goalies doing head first diving poke checks 20 times a game is "fine" too.

[savoie2006]

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Yeah the defensemen could be a bit more aggressive

Apparently you missed the part. The goalie head first dive is annoying, but can be controlled somewhat, by lowering the rebound slider. So you sacrafice one part of unrealistic play for another, but at least it gives up fewer easy goals for the Cpu. Complain all you want about 2K's lack of D intelligence, but don't forget, EA's game has its share of unresponsive teammates as well and I don't see you griping so loud about that on the EA forums. I know though, you just like to argue, but we'll just have to disagree.

[Scottdau]

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No such thing. You just disagree.

I love you too! XXOO

[Scottdau]

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Apparently you missed the part. The goalie head first dive is annoying, but can be controlled somewhat, by lowering the rebound slider. So you sacrafice one part of unrealistic play for another, but at least it gives up fewer easy goals for the Cpu. Complain all you want about 2K's lack of D intelligence, but don't forget, EA's game has its share of unresponsive teammates as well and I don't see you griping so loud about that on the EA forums. I know though, you just like to argue, but we'll just have to disagree.

I wouldn't even brother with him. Good points about the D, some times they make you scratch your head and some times they make you smile. It is not all the time that is why I think they might be able to patch it, so their are more smiles!

[phillyfan23]

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I think the Defensive AI is fine. Yeah the defensemen could be a bit more aggressive, but overall the AI on both sides of the Ice is fine for me. Definately not any worse than EA's. Cups has been chirping in, just not here.

no way it is fine. The cpu d-men in NHL 10 is fine. Not great, but they don't make fundamental flaws like the d-men in 2k do.

What;s weird is that MOST of the times the 2k d-men play great, and realistically aggressive ( better than EA's) but 20 percent of the time, they play like pee-wee hockey d-men.

EA plays consistently decent...never awesome, but for the most part does its job. 2k's d-men errors just kill the game. Check out venom's thread of the d-men flaws at 2khockey forums.

IF and it's a big if, the patch fixes this in 2k10, the d-men play WILL be better than EA's......

if not then the game is unplayable for me.

[savoie2006]

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no way it is fine. The cpu d-men in NHL 10 is fine. Not great, but they don't make fundamental flaws like the d-men in 2k do.

What;s weird is that MOST of the times the 2k d-men play great, and realistically aggressive ( better than EA's) but 20 percent of the time, they play like pee-wee hockey d-men.

EA plays consistently decent...never awesome, but for the most part does its job. 2k's d-men errors just kill the game. Check out venom's thread of the d-men flaws at 2khockey forums.

IF and it's a big if, the patch fixes this in 2k10, the d-men play WILL be better than EA's......

if not then the game is unplayable for me.

I've read it. I didn't say they were perfect, I said that the AI in general is fine by me. It's passable in my books. Does that mean I don't think it needs adjusting? Of course it does and hopefully the patch makes those adjustments. If so, the AI is all the better. Since I've played 2K and EA Hockey and seen much worse Cpu AI, I don't think of 2K10's as all that awful or bad.

[superjew887]

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I'm going out on a limb here and giving shadow and the 2k team the benefit of the doubt that this lengthy patch release is due in part because the patch is going to be of great quality.

Unlike EA who released a patch right away and left players wondering "what exactly changed?", I believe this patch is going to have us feeling right from the get-go, "wow! this game is totally revamped".

I'd rather wait out a patch and actually have it be flawless and address a lot of issues then be a quick fix. Hopefully my gut is right on this one. Don't let me down 2k!

[Keirik]

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i'll still never understand for the life of me why anytime someone has a complaint about THIS game, the first response is always about EA

Who gives a crap what EA is doing. The threads here are about 2K, not EA so enough already. In the EA forum there are very few threads that discuss issues with THAT game turning into something to do with 2k's game, unless it's someone specifically making a thread to say they are giving up on that game and going to try 2k instead.


Some of you guys are hindering the progress of THIS game with that kind of attitude. Keep on going with the "at least it's not like EA doing blah blah blah" nonsense and you give the devs of 2k even more of an excuse to be lackluster in their approach to fix this game. Don't accept poor game flaws in design A because you don't like the competition's design B. Does not make any sense whatsoever.


It's like having a massive leak in your water heater for your own house and responding with "well, at least we're not like the neighbor's house with subpar plumbing so let it leak".


never ceases to amaze me.

[plaidchuck]

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I'm going out on a limb here and giving shadow and the 2k team the benefit of the doubt that this lengthy patch release is due in part because the patch is going to be of great quality.

Unlike EA who released a patch right away and left players wondering "what exactly changed?", I believe this patch is going to have us feeling right from the get-go, "wow! this game is totally revamped".

I'd rather wait out a patch and actually have it be flawless and address a lot of issues then be a quick fix. Hopefully my gut is right on this one. Don't let me down 2k!

Or worse yet all it does is fix the ref bug or a few online issues and nothing else really. Or even better doesn't even come out for PS3, that'd be a kick in the knickers eh? Gotta look at both sides of the coin...

[Scottdau]

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i'll still never understand for the life of me why anytime someone has a complaint about THIS game, the first response is always about EA

Who gives a crap what EA is doing. The threads here are about 2K, not EA so enough already. In the EA forum there are very few threads that discuss issues with THAT game turning into something to do with 2k's game, unless it's someone specifically making a thread to say they are giving up on that game and going to try 2k instead.


Some of you guys are hindering the progress of THIS game with that kind of attitude. Keep on going with the "at least it's not like EA doing blah blah blah" nonsense and you give the devs of 2k even more of an excuse to be lackluster in their approach to fix this game. Don't accept poor game flaws in design A because you don't like the competition's design B. Does not make any sense whatsoever.


It's like having a massive leak in your water heater for your own house and responding with "well, at least we're not like the neighbor's house with subpar plumbing so let it leak".


never ceases to amaze me.

To be honest I don't have a problem with people having problems with this game, but when they start to attack the Devs and producers of the game. That is when I have a problem. I don't know why, but I do. But for the most part I am going to keep my thought to myself. I agree Sav, the Defense AI does it right a lot of times. I understand Philly problem and I do hope they are able too patch that for his stake.

[Keirik]

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To be honest I don't have a problem with people having problems with this game, but when they start to attack the Devs and producers of the game. That is when I have a problem. I don't know why, but I do. But for the most part I am going to keep my thought to myself. I agree Sav, the Defense AI does it right a lot of times. I understand Philly problem and I do hope they are able too patch that for his stake.

er okay, but that has nothing to do with my post. Why is the response to a problem with this game always "Well EA's game has problem x,y,and z though"

[Scottdau]

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er okay, but that has nothing to do with my post. Why is the response to a problem with this game always "Well EA's game has problem x,y,and z though"

I am not really responding too you. I just used you as the quote, because it is kinda on the same line. I guess because a lot of guys that complain about this game and big fans of the other game and therefore have an agenda. It happens with every game that has competition. I am not saying people are doing that here, but it is what it is.

[original6]

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er okay, but that has nothing to do with my post. Why is the response to a problem with this game always "Well EA's game has problem x,y,and z though"

Methinks you are exaggerating a bit, but I get your point.

Personally, I'm tired of every other thread turning into an EA vs 2k pissing contest. I didn't care for EA's demo and therefore don't play the game. Whatever is wrong with EA's game is of no concern to me and I'm certainly not going to waste my time surfing through the NHL 10 forums responding defensively to any post that knocks 2k10.

Some of you guys are hindering the progress of THIS game with that kind of attitude. Keep on going with the "at least it's not like EA doing blah blah blah" nonsense and you give the devs of 2k even more of an excuse to be lackluster in their approach to fix this game. Don't accept poor game flaws in design A because you don't like the competition's design B. Does not make any sense whatsoever.

Imo, this applies to a select few, whom I'm sure the developers know would never say anything bad about the game no matter what. I'd say for the most part, most who post in this forum section are pretty honest and upfront about the game's flaws. There's a big difference in acknowledging and accepting a flaw and flat out denying one even exists. I don't really see that happening here.

I'm confident that the 2k devs are fully aware of the game's shortcomings and not denying they exist. A patch is in the works, which confirms they do acknowledge the game needs some fixing.