Will A 1-Year Layoff Help 2K12?

[RealmK]

Re: Will A 1-Year Layoff Help 2K12?

My optimism is with VC. If this were still Kush, I would have little to NO faith. Yeah, some of the Kush guys are now working for VC, but it's still a better development company and was before Bish and whoever joined with him. Kush did almost NOTHING for this series for next gen. Even though 2K9 was the year that should have been missed, VC made good progress IMO on 2K10. More than Kush ever made in one develpment cycle.As for the marketing, that isn't the developers wrong doing, but the idiot higher ups.

Thats all well and good, and I really do understand where you're coming from but keep in mind Ben Bishop was still the lead producer during the Kush days and well, he didn't seem to have a problem with the game regressing each year from 2k6 on (Cinemotion WILL BE AWESOME I SWEAR!!11!). I remember him seemingly all nervous during E3 and gamespot stage demos where he looked absolutely miserable that he had to talk about NHL2k while trying to sound excited when you could tell he wasn't. Though if the game has had a crap budget since then and I think most of us can agree it prolly has, its not completely his fault.

I agree the change to VC has been positive, 2k10 was a big step in a better direction for sure. What I question is Take Two/2k's commitment going forward though, marketing or lack there of (which they pretty much suck at for any title that doesn't start with Grand and end with Auto to begin with) and a desire to actually compete head on with EA on the 360/PS3.

Its going to take alot more than just reassurance from some 2k VP to convince me they seriously want to do the series justice on the 360/PS3.

[Scottdau]

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I agree too, Realmk. I don't see how this is a good thing either, but I am hope I am wrong.

[MaddenBalla]

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Can 2K atleast update the rosters until 2K12?

[Flyermania]

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Can 2K atleast update the rosters until 2K12?

Their post-release support hasn't been great over the past several years, but hopefully this will change since there won't be a version for the 360/PS3 this fall. If not, the lack of CAP space will create some real problems.

[Scottdau]

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Has any game ever had update rosters during a break off or a year off to rebuild?

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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Unless they're spending almost 2 years working on the next game, I don't think it will make a difference. For all we know a scaled down team is working on the Wii 2K11 version and the rest of the team has moved on to other projects.

I use to love the 2K series but EA series is so far ahead I can't even play the 2K series anymore. My version of 2K10 is collecting dust. I haven't played it since the first week it was released.

For 2K12, they need to start from scratch like what EA did. Everything needs to change. VC should make an offer to Littman to take over the franchise.

[DrJones]

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For 2K12, they need to start from scratch like what EA did. Everything needs to change. VC should make an offer to Littman to take over the franchise.

Like they did with Ben Brinkman for their MLB series? Line producer/lead designer doesn't have that much to do with overall game quality.

[savoie2006]

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Unless they're spending almost 2 years working on the next game, I don't think it will make a difference. For all we know a scaled down team is working on the Wii 2K11 version and the rest of the team has moved on to other projects.

I use to love the 2K series but EA series is so far ahead I can't even play the 2K series anymore. My version of 2K10 is collecting dust. I haven't played it since the first week it was released.

For 2K12, they need to start from scratch like what EA did. Everything needs to change. VC should make an offer to Littman to take over the franchise.

We already have an EA game, we don't need another. EA's game does alot of things right, but 2K's has over the years too. Really it's simply a matter of adding polish and depth to the game. The core gameplay is fine with good sliders. Then market the game like crazy and don't use slogans like "It's Party Now".

[RealmK]

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Like they did with Ben Brinkman for their MLB series? Line producer/lead designer doesn't have that much to do with overall game quality.

Yeah cept they didn't actually start from scratch with MLB either, much like they didn't start from scratch with NHL2k9. 2k likes to talk the talk but really has yet to walk the walk when it comes to actually rebuilding/replacing the core engine for its sports titles.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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Like they did with Ben Brinkman for their MLB series? Line producer/lead designer doesn't have that much to do with overall game quality.

I actually liked the first game that 2K put out after they hired Brinkman. Of course it went all downhill after that though.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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We already have an EA game, we don't need another. EA's game does alot of things right, but 2K's has over the years too. Really it's simply a matter of adding polish and depth to the game. The core gameplay is fine with good sliders. Then market the game like crazy and don't use slogans like "It's Party Now".

I just don't like the "feel" of the 2K series. I don't think 2K has to copy EA's game in all areas but they should copy some of their ideas.

I want to see 2K start from scratch instead of just adding/tweaking the current game engine.

[savoie2006]

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I just don't like the "feel" of the 2K series. I don't think 2K has to copy EA's game in all areas but they should copy some of their ideas.

I want to see 2K start from scratch instead of just adding/tweaking the current game engine.

I love the feel of 2K, but you're right they do need a new engine. Alot of ruins the feel of 2K, especially for those who play EA reguarly, is the poor animations. Some of their animations are nice, but alot are poor and awkward looking. It's the little things about 2K Hockey that reel me in. Like the faceoffs, incidental contact, the way the puck moves (not flat all the time like EA), Using the Stick On D, and so on.

[MikeThaFifa]

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I hope it helps... Gameplay gameplay gameplay. Now they have plenty of time to made the gameplay better and also made the best hockey game ever. I hope so...

[original6]

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I think the gameplay would benefit from the layoff, but I have serious concerns as to the financial stability of 2k Sports and consequently the likelihood of 2k12 being released.

[DrJones]

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Yeah cept they didn't actually start from scratch with MLB either, much like they didn't start from scratch with NHL2k9. 2k likes to talk the talk but really has yet to walk the walk when it comes to actually rebuilding/replacing the core engine for its sports titles.

With MLB, they can't, because of their exclusivity deal.
With NHL, they won't, because it's not worth the cost.