The Official 2012 Stanley Cup Playoffs Thread

[ImTellinTim]

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Patiently awaiting Psyblast's analysis.....

They already made their "season's over" posts. Don't think much has changed.

I think he predicted losing in 5 so I'm guessing he's not at all surprised.

I can't believe how good Lidstrom still is at 41.

I think he's done. 0 points in the series.

[Kobalt]

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I think Lidstrom retires after this year, doesn't matter they'll just sign Suter to replace him :

[l3ulvl]

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Patiently awaiting Psyblast's analysis.....

I think this about sums it up:

The Red Wings are an unwatchable dumpster fire.

[Psyblast]

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Patiently awaiting Psyblast's analysis.....

Already gave it after Game 3 (or was it 4)? Lights out, party's over.

[SidVish]

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I think Lidstrom retires after this year, doesn't matter they'll just sign Suter to replace him :

And why not a Zach Parise while we're at it too.

[Kobalt]

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And why not a Zach Parise while we're at it too.

I actually think both ends up in Detroit, not sure how the cap works though.

[DrJones]

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So I've heard this argued before, and just out of curiosity, what is the top federal / provincial tax rate up there? It must be monstrous to be such a deterrent....

I believe the top federal rates are similar (about 30%). Huge difference between provincial & state taxes, though. Texas & Florida have no state tax, Pennsylvania 3%, Illinois 5%, New York & California 9%. By comparison: Alberta 10%, Ontario 11%, BC 14%, Quebec 24% (!). Plus a lot of things cost more up here.

Also, re: reason #2, it's always the damn Yankees, isn't it?

Always!

[Psyblast]

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I actually think both ends up in Detroit, not sure how the cap works though.

There are factors in both Parise and Suter's cases that make Detroit an attractive option for them, but I would still be surprised if the Wings are able to land both of them.

[pietasterp]

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There are factors in both Parise and Suter's cases that make Detroit an attractive option for them, but I would still be surprised if the Wings are able to land both of them.

Maybe, but as you mentioned a few pages back - and I agree with this 100% - how much better does that really make us? We're 5-6 guys away from being a legitimate Cup contender; tying up $10+ million in these two guys doesn't necessarily put us over the top. I'd be happy to welcome them to Detroit, but it's by no means a panacea.

I believe the top federal rates are similar (about 30%). Huge difference between provincial & state taxes, though. Texas & Florida have no state tax, Pennsylvania 3%, Illinois 5%, New York & California 9%. By comparison: Alberta 10%, Ontario 11%, BC 14%, Quebec 24% (!). Plus a lot of things cost more up here.

Yup, the federal rates are pretty much neck-and-neck, but wow is that Quebec rate high! That is definitely in the "non-negligible" range...no poutine is worth that....

[Kobalt]

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Raffi Torres got 25 game suspension. Lolol, couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

[RealmK]

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There are factors in both Parise and Suter's cases that make Detroit an attractive option for them, but I would still be surprised if the Wings are able to land both of them.

Not holding my breath. With how well Detroit generally drafts or gets lucky on draft picks, it might take 3-5 years while guys who are ready, languish in grand rapids. It's the RedWings way.

[rdnk]

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I actually think both ends up in Detroit, not sure how the cap works though.

We'd have room if Lidstrom hangs them up. I don't know if he will, he was pretty underwhelming in the series. Although if he takes less money to come back, and then Stuart and Hudler leave, we'd have room for both, but then we'd have to call up a prospect, which is sacrilege in the bible according to Holland.

I am curious to see what will happen with Detroit's Big 3 prospects: Smith, Tatar and Nyquist. If it was up to me, they'd all be in the NHL, but with the way Holland works, he'll probably sign guys to block their way to the NHL.

[Psyblast]

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We'd have room if Lidstrom hangs them up. I don't know if he will, he was pretty underwhelming in the series. Although if he takes less money to come back, and then Stuart and Hudler leave, we'd have room for both, but then we'd have to call up a prospect, which is sacrilege in the bible according to Holland.

I am curious to see what will happen with Detroit's Big 3 prospects: Smith, Tatar and Nyquist. If it was up to me, they'd all be in the NHL, but with the way Holland works, he'll probably sign guys to block their way to the NHL.

They could conceivably have room even if Lidstrom comes back. Even if Nick re-signed for another six million (which would be too much, IMO; he'd take a paycut), the Wings would have 14 million in cap space, and no other "major" players to re-sign; if Hudler re-signs it won't be for much, Stuart is gone, Holmstrom is done, and Helm and Abdelkader aren't expensive players at all.

[ImTellinTim]

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Raffi Torres got 25 game suspension. Lolol, couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Wow, color me surprised.

[SidVish]

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Good. He deserves every one of those 25 games. I hope it was worth it to him.