NHL 2023 Offseason

[LowerWolf]

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I'm not sure which I'm happier about: Getting Karlsson or unloading Granlund.

[kehlis]

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I'm not sure which I'm happier about: Getting Karlsson or unloading Granlund.

An absolute fantastic trade for the Penguins. I've tried to find one but can't see a bad side other than Karlsson's defense but the Penguins can live with that.

[Majingir]

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Recent Leafs 1st round pick Rodion Amirov passes away after his battle with a brain tumor.

From what I've heard, seems like he was trying to make a comeback in hockey (he was out of action for a year or two) and next thing you know you find out this news.

And then Leafs legend Bobby Baun dies.

This really hasn't been a good offseason at all.

[Majingir]

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Adding to the bad news, longtime Sabres commentator Rick Jeanneret passed away.

Most know for this

https://twitter.com/Sportsnet/status/1692368330923925742?t=let2H7m3KhqP2KFhuRF-QA&s=19

[Money99]

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Adding to the bad news, longtime Sabres commentator Rick Jeanneret passed away.

Most know for this
https://twitter.com/Sportsnet/status...KFhuRF-QA&s=19

R.I.P. Jeanneret. Legendary voice.

On another note, watching that old Mayday May clip brings back some great memories from what I consider to be the greatest hockey season of all time, 1992-93 (93-94 is a very close 2nd).
I felt like the hockey stars were perfectly aligned for that season; from star power, offense, acrobatic goalies and comic-book like tough guys.
I'm fine with goon hockey being the rearview (I've lost the zest to seeing HW's destroy each other now that I'm aware of the health issues it costs), but man I'd love to see another season where you had to score 100 points just to crack the top 20, or 50 goals to crack the top 10.
Or how about seeing goalies forced to flop and be athletic to stop pucks because the goalie equipment to net size wasn't 1:1 like it is now.

[DrJones]

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R.I.P. Jeanneret. Legendary voice.

On another note, watching that old Mayday May clip brings back some great memories from what I consider to be the greatest hockey season of all time, 1992-93 (93-94 is a very close 2nd).
I felt like the hockey stars were perfectly aligned for that season; from star power, offense, acrobatic goalies and comic-book like tough guys.
I'm fine with goon hockey being the rearview (I've lost the zest to seeing HW's destroy each other now that I'm aware of the health issues it costs), but man I'd love to see another season where you had to score 100 points just to crack the top 20, or 50 goals to crack the top 10.
Or how about seeing goalies forced to flop and be athletic to stop pucks because the goalie equipment to net size wasn't 1:1 like it is now.

92/93 and 93/94 would be my #1 and #2 overall seasons as well. As far as postseason rankings, I'd go '94, '93, and '14 in that order.

The scoring boom in 92/93 was an outlier, though.

88/89: 9 players w/ 100 points, 6 players w/ 50 goals
89/90: 13 w/ 100 PTS, 8 w/ 50 G
90/91: 10 w/ 100 PTS, 4 w/ 50 G
91/92: 9 w/ 100 PTS, 4 w/ 50 G
92/93: 21 w/ 100 PTS, 14 w/ 50 G
93/94: 8 w/ 100 PTS, 9 w/ 50 G

I think you're being a bit harsh on today's game. Is the NHL as exciting and balanced as it was between 88-94? No! (I'm biased, of course, since those years coincided with me being 16-22 and the Canucks being relevant for the 1st time ever.) But the current era is still pretty good! Goalies are far less important than in the past (see: Stanley Cup champion Adin Hill), and the average game is far faster and cleaner than years past. This is not the Dead Puck Era.

97/98: 1 w/ 100 PTS, 4 w/ 50 G
02/03: 3 w/ 100 PTS, 1 w/ 50 G
07/08: 2 w/ 100 PTS, 3 w/ 50 G
12/13: 1 w/ 100 PTS, 2 w/ 50 G*
17/18: 3 w/ 100 PTS, 0 w/ 50 G
22/23: 11 w/ 100 PTS, 5 w/ 50 G

*pro-rated from 48 games

[Majingir]

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NHL the last few years is much better from an offensive standpoint compared to NHL from the late 90s to the mid 10s.

But the 70s,80s and early 90s was the best time for offense.

It's a shame they don't try to replicate that type of offense in the league today, but in coaches/GMs minds, it's much better having these 2-1, 3-2 games than 6-3 or something.

[DrJones]

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NHL the last few years is much better from an offensive standpoint compared to NHL from the late 90s to the mid 10s.

But the 70s,80s and early 90s was the best time for offense.

It's a shame they don't try to replicate that type of offense in the league today, but in coaches/GMs minds, it's much better having these 2-1, 3-2 games than 6-3 or something.

Speaking as someone who watched hundreds of games on TV in the early/mid 80s, today's level of offence is just fine IMO.

[kehlis]

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NHL the last few years is much better from an offensive standpoint compared to NHL from the late 90s to the mid 10s.

But the 70s,80s and early 90s was the best time for offense.

It's a shame they don't try to replicate that type of offense in the league today, but in coaches/GMs minds, it's much better having these 2-1, 3-2 games than 6-3 or something.

I honestly don't understand this thought.

[DrJones]

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I honestly don't understand this thought.

I don't either. Lord knows, I bitched and moaned about the DPE and the "Jamie Benn wins the Art Ross w/ 87 points!" crap as much as anyone, but times are good right now! We just had a Stanley Cup Final featuring the 11th and 21st ranked defences in the league. If Vegas didn't win, the Oilers probably would've. Aside from Carolina, I can't think of any serious contender with a conservative, D-first mentality. Sure, the Islanders, Jets, and Torts would like to win games 2-1, but look how far it got them. Why do we have to pretend it's still 2004?

[Money99]

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Hockey over the past couple of seasons has definitely been much better than in previous years.

The main difference from those early 90's seasons to now is that the game was sloppier which led to far more odd-man rushes and chances.
Nostalgia has probably done a number on my memory but I swear you'd see more breakaways and 2-on-1's in one game than you would an entire night of current games.

The games are overly coached and I still don't think we're seeing enough of the big stars.
As a Wings fan, there were several nights Yzerman would get over 30 minutes a game.
Gretzky would get triple shifted and I swear Doug Gilmour centered the top 2 lines in Toronto.

I have no doubt that if the McDavids, Matthews, MacKinnon's were averaging 25-30 minutes a game, we'd get even more scoring.

IMO, the game hasn't evolved with the speed and size of the players.
For my offensive tastes, the game should be played 4-on-4 with 12 guys on each bench.
I understand this will never ever happen, but I can dream.

[DrJones]

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If you miss high skill but super sloppy, brain-dead hockey, you should be watching more Canucks games, Money.

[Majingir]

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Andrew Ladd retires.

Only 3 Thrashers left.

[DrJones]

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Canucks comms with the rare W

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/the-canucks-left-mark-messier-off-quinn-hughes-captaincy-announcement-7531631

[Majingir]

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So...how long does Babcock last?

Apparently he's been asking for players phones and wanting to show their pics on their TV?