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  • DivotMaker
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    • Jul 2002
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    #16
    Re: IGN 360 Review

    Originally posted by sroz39
    I don't see why everyone is getting on EA's case with this game. It truly baffles me to be honest with you.

    Could not agree more with every point you just made. Especially the part where Links fans will deliberately keep attribute points to 7, but then complain when Tiger becomes too easy when they max out attributes. That is a no-win situation for EA, so I concur with your comments. I think this version just might be the turning point for the Tiger franchise. I have also heard that the Tiger Team has a new Executive Producer for the 2008 version, so I am anxious to get in touch with him and offer feedback on what 07 does well and what could be improved.....
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    • ComfortablyLomb
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      • Sep 2003
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      #17
      Re: IGN 360 Review

      Originally posted by sroz39
      I don't see why everyone is getting on EA's case with this game. It truly baffles me to be honest with you.

      1) The courses in the game look better than any other golf game to date. Yet some still complain and some have the audacity to say that they shouldn't bother with the graphics and nail the gameplay. If they did that, the sceams to make it look next-gen would be deafening.

      2) The gameplay has been arcadey in the past. But it looks like the team is focusing on giving us two seperate styles of play for once. Look at the screenshot of the shot being aimed at the green...the aiming circle covers the whole green and then some. Of course if you max out your player, it becomes easier. Which brings me to....

      3) Inconsistency in you guys. You guys will happily stop developing your player in Links because you know even in the venerable Links, it becomes way too easy with a player that's maxed out. In fact, it's very Tiger-esque, IMO. But you'll do it in TW and then complain openly about how easy it is. Huh?? Why is it ok in one and not the other?

      Understand, I am in NO way, shape or form an EA defender. Anyone that's been paying attention to my posts on these forums knows that. But it looks like the dev team behind this game are truly working to make this game harder, and in that sense, it shouldn't be compared to TW's in the past, but as a stand alone product.

      Sure, I hate the ball-cam, chipping system and to a degree, the putting system. But this game looks like a huge step up visually from the CG TW's and the gameplay looks much improved. Personally, I think I'll be happy with this EA product. Which, other than NHL 07, has not been the case the past few years.
      The game itself is good, not great, but there's a lot of spillover around these parts of annoyance with EA because of things they've done with all their games. This year's Tiger looks like it's going to be the best in a while at least...

      Defending my point about the graphics - they simply don't matter if the gameplay doesn't draw you into the game. They look good, they look better than any golf game before, but do they look good enough for me to say that I'm going to play just to look at the eye candy rather than for the gameplay? I don't know, when I think next-gen I don't just think of better graphics but I want next-gen gameplay as well. I want to be able to be able to hit a low spinning chip with a sand wedge, I want to be able to use my 5-wood as a putter/chipper from a foot into the rough around the green, I want to be able to control the degree I'm openning my lob wedge. The graphics are good though, great.

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      • ComfortablyLomb
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        • Sep 2003
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        #18
        Re: IGN 360 Review

        Originally posted by BigBerthaEA
        Could not agree more with every point you just made. Especially the part where Links fans will deliberately keep attribute points to 7, but then complain when Tiger becomes too easy when they max out attributes. That is a no-win situation for EA, so I concur with your comments. I think this version just might be the turning point for the Tiger franchise. I have also heard that the Tiger Team has a new Executive Producer for the 2008 version, so I am anxious to get in touch with him and offer feedback on what 07 does well and what could be improved.....
        I think you have to be given this one... it's bizarre than Links gets such a pass.

        Couldn't agree more that this may be the turning point, despite some criticism on this forum I liked the demo and the new aiming system really intrigues me. I guess we'll all find out how well the game plays this Tuesday!

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        • JRod
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          • Jul 2002
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          #19
          Re: IGN 360 Review

          Originally posted by BigBerthaEA
          Could not agree more with every point you just made. Especially the part where Links fans will deliberately keep attribute points to 7, but then complain when Tiger becomes too easy when they max out attributes. That is a no-win situation for EA, so I concur with your comments. I think this version just might be the turning point for the Tiger franchise. I have also heard that the Tiger Team has a new Executive Producer for the 2008 version, so I am anxious to get in touch with him and offer feedback on what 07 does well and what could be improved.....

          Well at least it was an option to make the game difficult. In previous Tiger's there was nothing you could do to make the game harder.

          As for giving Tiger and EA a hard time. Tiger was never really a golf game, it was more like Triple Play (remember that game). There's clubs, golf courses and Tiger but its not golf. PC game is a different story.

          I think anyone the spends $60 on this untested game is foolish. I'm going to rent and see if they finally made a golf game for the console. I think there's way too much hype on TW that ignores Tigers previous problems. They are going to have to prove they can get it right before they get my money.

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          • DaveDQ
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            • Sep 2003
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            #20
            Re: IGN 360 Review

            Originally posted by sroz39
            I don't see why everyone is getting on EA's case with this game. It truly baffles me to be honest with you.
            Honestly, and I know this sounds like a gripe, but they want me to put down 60.00 for a game that has less course than the current-gen system.

            Also, yes Tiger looks great, but the presentation in the game is very seperated. Just like every step in cutscene graphics, eventually we'll all be hitting the a-button to skip it. According to the demo, the game will be fun, but with all the other games coming our way this fall, putting 60.00 down on this one is tough to swallow.
            Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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            • DivotMaker
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              • Jul 2002
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              #21
              Re: IGN 360 Review

              Originally posted by JRod
              Well at least it was an option to make the game difficult. In previous Tiger's there was nothing you could do to make the game harder.
              Nonsense. You could stop applying attributes anytime you liked just like Links 04.



              Originally posted by JRod
              I think anyone the spends $60 on this untested game is foolish. I'm going to rent and see if they finally made a golf game for the console. I think there's way too much hype on TW that ignores Tigers previous problems. They are going to have to prove they can get it right before they get my money.
              I very much enjoyed my time playing TW06 for 360. I do not think that buying the game is "foolish". You are entitled to your opinion, but calling other foolish is truly unnecessary.
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              • Rodster
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                • Mar 2003
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                #22
                Re: IGN 360 Review

                Originally posted by dQbell
                Honestly, and I know this sounds like a gripe, but they want me to put down 60.00 for a game that has less course than the current-gen system.

                Also, yes Tiger looks great, but the presentation in the game is very seperated. Just like every step in cutscene graphics, eventually we'll all be hitting the a-button to skip it. According to the demo, the game will be fun, but with all the other games coming our way this fall, putting 60.00 down on this one is tough to swallow.
                And next year around the same time you'll be able to buy the game for $15 from outpost.com

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                • ComfortablyLomb
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                  • Sep 2003
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                  #23
                  Re: IGN 360 Review

                  Originally posted by BigBerthaEA
                  I very much enjoyed my time playing TW06 for 360. I do not think that buying the game is "foolish". You are entitled to your opinion, but calling other foolish is truly unnecessary.
                  Especially when the 360 version last year was probably a better at being a golf game than any of the current-gen versions. It's problem wasn't really how it played, it was how stripped down it was, which really wasn't anything out of the ordinary for those first few 360 sports games.

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                  • sroz39
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                    • Apr 2006
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                    #24
                    Re: IGN 360 Review

                    Originally posted by dQbell
                    Honestly, and I know this sounds like a gripe, but they want me to put down 60.00 for a game that has less course than the current-gen system.

                    Also, yes Tiger looks great, but the presentation in the game is very seperated. Just like every step in cutscene graphics, eventually we'll all be hitting the a-button to skip it. According to the demo, the game will be fun, but with all the other games coming our way this fall, putting 60.00 down on this one is tough to swallow.
                    I guess it comes down to how much you like golf. For me, it's my favourite sport to play and second favourite to watch behind football. But I think people are getting all over the game for no reason. The demo showed much improvement over last year's 360 game and is light year's ahead of anything on the PS2/Xbox.

                    It's enough of an improvement in my eyes to warrant a purchase, and seemingly a definite step in the right direction. I just think people sometimes fish a little too much to find reasons not to give the game it's due based on the series' history.

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                    • JRod
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #25
                      Re: IGN 360 Review

                      Originally posted by BigBerthaEA
                      Nonsense. You could stop applying attributes anytime you liked just like Links 04.





                      I very much enjoyed my time playing TW06 for 360. I do not think that buying the game is "foolish". You are entitled to your opinion, but calling other foolish is truly unnecessary.
                      With all do respect, you're here to promote Tiger. I don't know the current term when a company sends out a forum poster to promote their products but let's call a spade a spade.

                      Yes, you could stop applying attributes but that still wasn't enough. Tiger was about nothing more than arcade golf. The 360 version changes this a bit but last year's version was too barebones to judge.

                      I think its foolish that people don't "vote" with their money. I'm not going to buy Tiger, because the team hasn't proved that they can get it right on the console. If they can great, I'll buy it. I've been good this year not to support bad games.

                      Madden 360 - rent
                      Madden XB - buy
                      NCAA 360 - rent
                      NCAA XB - rented, then a must have.
                      FIFA 360 - rent
                      FIFA XB - buy.
                      (I had no idea I was buying more XB games until I posted this message. Completely unintentional.)

                      I wish more in both DSP and OS communities would not just shell out 60 bucks just to get a game that unproven such as Tiger. It would go a long way to send a company a message through sales.

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                      • sroz39
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                        • Apr 2006
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                        #26
                        Re: IGN 360 Review

                        Originally posted by JRod
                        With all do respect, you're here to promote Tiger. I don't know the current term when a company sends out a forum poster to promote their products but let's call a spade a spade.

                        Yes, you could stop applying attributes but that still wasn't enough. Tiger was about nothing more than arcade golf. The 360 version changes this a bit but last year's version was too barebones to judge.

                        I think its foolish that people don't "vote" with their money. I'm not going to buy Tiger, because the team hasn't proved that they can get it right on the console. If they can great, I'll buy it. I've been good this year not to support bad games.

                        Madden 360 - rent
                        Madden XB - buy
                        NCAA 360 - rent
                        NCAA XB - rented, then a must have.
                        FIFA 360 - rent
                        FIFA XB - buy.
                        (I had no idea I was buying more XB games until I posted this message. Completely unintentional.)

                        I wish more in both DSP and OS communities would not just shell out 60 bucks just to get a game that unproven such as Tiger. It would go a long way to send a company a message through sales.
                        I actually agree with you. I haven't bought a TW game since TW2004. This is the first one that I will buy on day one, even though I love golf.

                        I too have been slow to buy the NG sports games. My list is similiar to yours. I only bought NHL 07 and NBA 2K7 on the 360 out of the NG sports games. TW07 will be my third. Other than that, it's been NCAA 07 and The Show on the PS2.

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                        • Triggerfish
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                          • Apr 2003
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                          #27
                          Re: IGN 360 Review

                          I enjoyed the 06 360 version alot...actually my most played game.Problem was you really had to play people you knew so you would not get the cheezy stuff.(Then again thats the same for most sports games). I am just hoping that the putting is not so pre-determined for the longer ones. I never use the power up or spin in mid-air stuff.

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                          • DivotMaker
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                            #28
                            Re: IGN 360 Review

                            Originally posted by JRod
                            With all do respect, you're here to promote Tiger. I don't know the current term when a company sends out a forum poster to promote their products but let's call a spade a spade.
                            Get your facts straight JRod. I have not had any relationship with EA for over a year. I am a console Golf fan hoping that this game is much improved over the 06 360 version.

                            Originally posted by JRod
                            Yes, you could stop applying attributes but that still wasn't enough. Tiger was about nothing more than arcade golf. The 360 version changes this a bit but last year's version was too barebones to judge.
                            If you had played the 360 version as much as I did, you would not have made the statement above. The 360 version had far more simulation features than any of the previous TW console games, but it only scratched the surface. Limiting attributes on the 360 version allowed me personally to have a very satisfying experience.

                            Originally posted by JRod
                            I think its foolish that people don't "vote" with their money. I'm not going to buy Tiger, because the team hasn't proved that they can get it right on the console. If they can great, I'll buy it. I've been good this year not to support bad games.
                            I think it is foolish for people like your self to pass judgement on others who don't think the way you think about how they buy their games. I have bought 3 EA games this year, NHL07 - 360, TW 07 PSP, TW07 PC. I bought NCAA 07 for 360 and was fortunate enough to be able to exchange it for NHL07 360. I will buy TW07 360 because I DID have a good experience with 06. Sorry you feel differently, but at least I am not trying to convince others you are foolish for not buying it.

                            Originally posted by JRod
                            I wish more in both DSP and OS communities would not just shell out 60 bucks just to get a game that unproven such as Tiger. It would go a long way to send a company a message through sales.
                            Wishful thinking. I wish forums could have an impact on games that are not good and deserve criticism. Unfortunately, forums don't hit EA and other companies in the pocketbook....the end users do and many of them don't spend their time in forums like this one.
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                            • djep
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #29
                              Re: IGN 360 Review

                              I enjoyed 06 as much as anyone but there were so many times in that game where a long putt, or an iron shot, going in just didn't feel rewarding like it did in Links...no matter how much you limited the attributes. These big shots were just way too scripted and made the game feel a lot less organic than Links. That's where Links really had Tiger beat by a mile. Either way I am eagerly anticipating this game but it could stand to learn a thing or two from Links 2004.

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                              • DivotMaker
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                                #30
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                                Originally posted by djep
                                I enjoyed 06 as much as anyone but there were so many times in that game where a long putt, or an iron shot, going in just didn't feel rewarding like it did in Links...no matter how much you limited the attributes. These big shots were just way too scripted and made the game feel a lot less organic than Links. That's where Links really had Tiger beat by a mile. Either way I am eagerly anticipating this game but it could stand to learn a thing or two from Links 2004.
                                I noticed the same phenomena in every mode other than TOUR mode. That is the only mode I could find where I did not get the pre-destined results and felt like my efforts and skills determined the outcome.
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