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  • dbrandon
    Banned
    • Mar 2003
    • 1337

    #1

    Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

    I don't have a problem with the way it is but I understand many of you do? So how would you like it to be?
  • fishepa
    I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
    • Feb 2003
    • 18989

    #2
    Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

    Like Links 2004.

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    • orthostud23
      Pro
      • Apr 2007
      • 570

      #3
      Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

      Originally posted by fishepa
      Like Links 2004.

      THATS EXACTLY how it should be!!
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      • ComfortablyLomb
        MVP
        • Sep 2003
        • 3548

        #4
        Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

        Well, first of all, I find putting accuracy to be as much about directional control than distance control. Not just finding the line of the putt, which is difficult in and of itself, but then actually striking the ball squarely so it follows that line. And with the correct speed so the ball doesn't break too much or too little before the hole. The Tiger system is basically find the line, pick the distance, and stroke the ball perfectly every time. It was never like that in JN6 or Mario Golf. You could actually miss-hit a putt, which isn't so uncommon an event even for a tour pro. As a result, lag putting really suffers in the Tiger games. There's not much reason to putt for position on a 40' putt, the one coming back will be just as easy or difficult no matter where it is. But that's just my opinion about the whole thing.

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        • Flightwhite24
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2005
          • 12094

          #5
          Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

          Originally posted by dbrandon
          I don't have a problem with the way it is but I understand many of you do? So how would you like it to be?
          I'm in the same boat I personally love the putting system. For me it seems like it's about feel/finesse. I don't really have problems on lag puts or seem to have issues that others are having. I may not be seeing the issues probably because my video gaming standards are not very high. I don't critique these games so much unless it has a glaring/totally broken feature like no fatigue in Madden 07 or the issues NCAA09 had. Still this is by far the best TW in years. Peace!!!!
          The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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          • Klocker
            MVP
            • Jul 2003
            • 3239

            #6
            Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

            Originally posted by fishepa
            Like Links 2004.
            correct

            the TW system is dumbed down to where feel and power in the putting stroke are taken out of your hands and put into a predetermined distance marker. Not to mention that the amount you need to stroke it a certain distance changes depending on if you are at 10,20,40 or 80 on the meter. You have to make a full stroke to hit it 20' (at 100%) or the same full stroke to hit it 40' at 100%). it's just not realistic.

            In RL and Links 2004 your putting "stroke" is constant and the determining factors of distance is how far you draw back the putter and how well, forcefully, far you follow through. Which is how it should be.


            FYI, the way I am able to enjoy TW 09 is to constantly change the distance marker to 40' (or equivalent of 40' 100% ie 20' 50%) for every putt I make. That way it offers a reasonably reliable and fairly realistic and repeatable back and forth putting motion for most putts. It's still not as nice feeeling as Links 2004 because the putting stroke in TW is too short but it's serviceable to allow me to enjoy TW for what it is.
            Last edited by Klocker; 08-31-2008, 03:13 PM.

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            • dbrandon
              Banned
              • Mar 2003
              • 1337

              #7
              Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

              I wish there was a putting green in TW 09 so as to just practice.

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              • Klocker
                MVP
                • Jul 2003
                • 3239

                #8
                Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

                Originally posted by dbrandon
                I wish there was a putting green in TW 09 so as to just practice.

                just turn mulligans on and have at it on the first green of a play now game.

                I just go in and practice making the same putt and then miss long and try from other angles. one nice thing about this mulligan system is it let's you replay the stroke even after you hole it.

                not optimal but it helps

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                • ofdman
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 390

                  #9
                  Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

                  Originally posted by Klocker
                  just turn mulligans on and have at it on the first green of a play now game.

                  I just go in and practice making the same putt and then miss long and try from other angles. one nice thing about this mulligan system is it let's you replay the stroke even after you hole it.

                  not optimal but it helps
                  Same here. Was doing this last night. And like you said it isn't optimal but gets the job done.
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                  • OnlookerDelay
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 3442

                    #10
                    Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

                    Originally posted by fishepa
                    Like Links 2004.
                    Yes, that would be a dream to have that putting system in this game. It isn't perfect, but it is light years better than the multi-range putter system used in Tiger. I think LInks 2004's putting stroke would have been tuned and tweaked to be even more intuitive and proportionally responsive had Links 2005 been released on the XBox, and especially what was to have been Links 2007, on the 360!
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                    • Klocker
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 3239

                      #11
                      Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

                      Originally posted by OnlookerDelay
                      ....and especially what was to have been Links 2007, on the 360!

                      KHHHHHHHHAAAAANNNNN!!!!

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                      • OnlookerDelay
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 3442

                        #12
                        Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

                        Originally posted by Klocker
                        KHHHHHHHHAAAAANNNNN!!!!
                        I know... I know, this situation is as painful for me to live with as you! Can you imagine a world in which Links 2007 had been released for the XBox 360? (sigh)
                        Duke Football? Hell yes it's Duke Football! --- Coach Cutcliffe

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                        • Klocker
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 3239

                          #13
                          Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

                          one other putting workaround I may share with you is for eliminating that ugly LONG putting stroke on tap ins.

                          what I do is move the meter to 20' (left and rt triggers 360 adjust the distance meter instantly) and then I just quickly make a full stroke ... yea <2' putt, 20' distance marker, full swing on the stick but really fast ... just a click, click... and the animation does not do the back stroke just a follow through. much less ridiculous looking and the ball goes in as often as it should.
                          Last edited by Klocker; 09-01-2008, 02:30 PM.

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                          • JimmyPelican
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 49

                            #14
                            Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

                            I like the putting system in Links

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                            • PhantomPain
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 3512

                              #15
                              Re: Since you don't like TW putting How should they do it

                              Originally posted by OnlookerDelay
                              Yes, that would be a dream to have that putting system in this game. It isn't perfect, but it is light years better than the multi-range putter system used in Tiger. I think LInks 2004's putting stroke would have been tuned and tweaked to be even more intuitive and proportionally responsive had Links 2005 been released on the XBox, and especially what was to have been Links 2007, on the 360!
                              Why can't 2k or Take Two or whoever has the Links code see all these threads and comments about how great Links 2004 was and just finish the dang game? I know it wouldn't outsell TW but I would think it could be profitable with as many people that clamor for that game (ME INCLUDED) in a next-gen format. I put it in last night and if they could have made the swing stick more sensitive, tuned up the gameplay in general, added new courses and a career mode that was fun it would be AMAZING. In fact because I hadn't played it in a while, the putting was VERY hard for anything with a break in it and that is how it should be. Putting is the hardest part of the golf (IMO).

                              I just can't get over nobody at the owner of the code's job saying "hey, maybe we should make this game."
                              #WeAreUK

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