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  • dave374
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 1928

    #1

    Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

    A lot of guys don't seem to know how much changing the sweetspot on your clubs changes this game.

    You must have "expert" driver, woods, irons and wedges to do it.

    And, trust me, if you want realistic golf, you will do it.

    Anyway ... here's the master's post:

    Originally posted by baa7
    I was thinking of starting a thread on this topic, seeing there's a couple of things to watch out for.

    First off, not all the club sweetspots play the same. Irons are the most sensitive and require a large sweetspot, while wedges aren't sensitive at all. Drivers and woods fall somewhere in the middle.

    I've spent probably three hours testing the sweetspot response with each club. I'll post my settings, but let me explain what I've been attempting to achieve. I'm trying to set the sweetspot so there's a feeling of randomness wth the accuracy, and enough play to, for example, miss the fairway on either side without completely duffing the shot. And that's what happens if the sweetspot is set too low: shots literally travel sideways and it becomes next-to-impossible to keep the shot straight.

    Another consideration when tuning, is club distances in relation to each other. If the distances aren't tuned properly, you'll be left with a huge distance gap between your woods and irons, and your irons and wedges. Finding a balance with this aspect of the tuning process is something that also needs to be taken into consideration.

    I'm using Expert clubs which is how one is able to lower the sweetspot to 0. Keep in mind that Loft also affects distances:

    Driver -- Power 75%, Workability 100%, Loft 10.0 (50%) = Sweetspot 20%
    Woods -- Power 84%, Workability 95%, Loft +1.0 (70%) = Sweetspot 13%
    Irons -- Power 47%, Workability 97%, Loft +2.5 (75%) = Sweetspot 42%
    Wedges -- Power 100%, Workability 100%, Loft +4.5 (70%) = Sweetspot 0%

    FYI, my club distances/gaps with the above settings are:

    Driver = 276 yards
    3 wood = 238
    7 Wood = 216
    3 iron = 193
    5 iron = 167
    7 Iron = 150
    9 Iron = 130
    AWedge = 116
    GWedge = 106
    SWedge = 99
    LBwedge = 84
    Lwedge = 70
    HLWedge = 55

    Disclaimer: I'm not saying anyone will agree with my observations, but I'm posting them anyway!
  • baa7
    Banned
    • Jul 2004
    • 11691

    #2
    Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

    Originally posted by dave374
    Anyway ... here's the master's post:
    I burst out laughing when I read that and I'm still laughing. Thanks, dave. I've since lowered my driver's sweetspot to 14%. I started my career with it at 20%, and was hitting close to 80% FIR. So I reloaded my profile, and I'm going to start again after I test this out a bit more.

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    • Lieutenant Dan
      All Star
      • Sep 2007
      • 5679

      #3
      Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

      Excellent point about being careful to not have disparity between woods/irons/wedges on power/distance. You don't want to put yourself in the postion to do a lot of 'Tiger Math' from the fairways if you don't have to...and if a big disparity exists, no club will be close to doing the job correctly in some approach situations.

      Then you have to grab a club that's WAY too long for the green, do 10,000 practice swings to get the right 'power', and swing! Then watch helplessly as you short it into a bunker or the ball sails over the green....
      GO 'HAWKS!

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      • Zinger
        Rookie
        • Apr 2008
        • 254

        #4
        Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

        I'm a bit surprised that the OP has a bigger sweetspot for the driver than for woods. Surely that gives you more confidence using the driver than the woods, when I'd have thought it should be the other way round. Irons' sweetspot seems a bit high to me and no sweetspot for wedges looks odd since I have found that wedges can go offline if not hit properly. So far I've only unlocked advanced clubs but have been getting realistic scores with the following sweetspots: driver 18%, woods 21%, irons 24%, wedges 25%. Currently in career mode at Tour Pro difficulty I have an FIR of about 74% (and going down!) and a GIR of 60% (going slightly up).

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        • baa7
          Banned
          • Jul 2004
          • 11691

          #5
          Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

          Originally posted by Zinger
          I'm a bit surprised that the OP has a bigger sweetspot for the driver than for woods.
          As I mentioned, the sweetspots do not all react the same -- are not all equally sensitive. The driver sweetspot is more sensitive and less accurate than the woods, which is why the driver is higher. The wedge sweetspot isn't sensitive in the least, while the irons are the most sensitive by far.

          Anyway, as I said in my post, just my opinion and my settings.

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          • baa7
            Banned
            • Jul 2004
            • 11691

            #6
            Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

            Originally posted by Zinger
            So far I've only unlocked advanced clubs
            That's the difference. I just played a few holes with my advanced irons, and they're much more accurate than my expert irons.

            I have the sweetspot on my expert irons set at 39% right now, and I can't keep my shots straight. I switched to my advanced irons, 39% sweetspot, and every shot was dead straight. I had to lower the sweetspot on my advanced irons down to around 15% to get them to play the same as my expert irons with a 39% sweetspot.

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            • Maynard
              Banned
              • Feb 2007
              • 831

              #7
              Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

              so based on these discussions i unlocked advanced clubs. I dont want to spend 720 points to buy expert clubs just yet.

              So i put all my clubs at 60% power and 85% workability. This gave me a sweet spot of 35% across the board. I originally went with 25% sweet spot, but i sucked so bad that i bumped it to 35%

              anyways, my results have been a success for me. I did my 4th play the pros tourney and after winning the previous 3, i managed a -4 for the 4 rounds. My scores went
              +1 / E / -2 / -3

              I also played 2 rounds of the doral. Round 1 a shot a Even par. but then last night i shot a -9 in round 2 .......i guess i was due for a good round. The round was no wind so i think that helped, and the pin placement was such that putting was no issue (obviously). Plus i hit 2 birdies from the rough and hit an eagle from about 70 yards out. This is the first round that i played where it felt like the old TW games with the arcady birdies.

              If this trend continues, i can still lower my sweet spot on my clubs, then goto expert if needed.

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              • baa7
                Banned
                • Jul 2004
                • 11691

                #8
                Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

                Originally posted by Maynard
                anyways, my results have been a success for me.
                And that's what counts, of course. For the record, when I posted my original comments, I only meant to share what I was seeing when tuning and testing clubs. I actually tune my clubs to match my own playing abilities. I limited my power to 240 yard drives, my accuracy is awful and I have a natural and extreme fade with each club -- which is how I shoot in real life. Love that we can do that, BTW. The club tuner is a great feature.

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                • Maynard
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 831

                  #9
                  Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

                  i wonder, if i play a round with capped power, i am going to hit my drives shorter. Will this then make my power rating drop since the cap made me hit it shorter?

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                  • baa7
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 11691

                    #10
                    Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

                    Originally posted by Maynard
                    i wonder, if i play a round with capped power, i am going to hit my drives shorter. Will this then make my power rating drop since the cap made me hit it shorter?
                    Yes. I think my power attribute is around 8 right now, which is too high for me. I hit 260-270 drives on average. So I cap my power at 6 so that I'm averaging 20-30 yards shorter with all my clubs. Not sure I'd do that in Career mode though, seeing a number of fairways require a 250-260 yard drive off the black tees

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                    • JBHuskers
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 89

                      #11
                      Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

                      Good stuff there baa7

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                      • Maynard
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 831

                        #12
                        Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

                        i got screwed up in my tuning and left those gaps in distance that baa mentioned. another thing i noticed is the more loft you have will make windy conditions that much more challenging.

                        i also like the idea of creating a guy that plays like i do. Although i dont think the game would allow me to make a guy that bad

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                        • allstar3970
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                          • Mar 2008
                          • 166

                          #13
                          Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

                          Originally posted by baa7
                          Yes. I think my power attribute is around 8 right now, which is too high for me. I hit 260-270 drives on average. So I cap my power at 6 so that I'm averaging 20-30 yards shorter with all my clubs. Not sure I'd do that in Career mode though, seeing a number of fairways require a 250-260 yard drive off the black tees
                          i believe the average PGA Tour drive is in the 285 range, is lowering the distance that much just to increase the challenge since its easier to be accurate in the game than real life?

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                          • baa7
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 11691

                            #14
                            Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

                            Originally posted by allstar3970
                            is lowering the distance that much just to increase the challenge since its easier to be accurate in the game than real life?
                            It's to increase the difficulty, yes. Much tougher to birdie par 5's in particular given it usually takes three shots to get to the green when you're not hitting 300 yard drives and 250 yard 3 wood shots. I'm really just fooling around and practicing on the various courses, playing rounds with a golfer that mimics my own playing abilities in both accuracy and power. But if I seriously tried to win in Career mode, I wouldn't come close to winning any tournaments. I'll no doubt have to boost my power and even raise the sweetspots on my clubs given I don't usually come close to breaking par with these settings.

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                            • dave374
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 1928

                              #15
                              Re: Baa7's club tuning will change the game for you

                              I'd say 285 is about the PGA average.

                              Here's a list: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/...g-distance.htm

                              I may move my driving distance to that, since all I ever play is black tees anyway.

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