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  • kerosene31
    Some say he...
    • Dec 2004
    • 1898

    #16
    Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

    Sorry, I don't think you get what I want. There are pleanty of ways to practice in Tiger 10. There are ZERO ways to practice with the attributes I'll have in capped tournaments, which for the most part makes practice useless.

    For places like Pinehurst where you have to plan your shots into difficult greens, practice is useless.

    I guess you haven't played tour pro with all attributes capped at 7, it is a completely different game. Every shot has a randomness to it much like real golf.

    On some easy courses this isn't a huge deal, but on many it is. You have to have great course management and if you don't have a good idea of your abilities going in, it is like playing with your eyes closed.

    I played Pinehurst last night like this and was 10 over through 9 holes.

    I LOVE playing with capped attributes, but I can't, except in a few online tournaments.
    Last edited by kerosene31; 07-21-2009, 05:01 PM.
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    • dave374
      Banned
      • Feb 2003
      • 1928

      #17
      Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

      Originally posted by kerosene31
      I LOVE playing with capped attributes, but I can't, except in a few online tournaments.
      I agree completely Kerosene, but Divotmaker is going to defend EA 98% of the time on these boards.
      I've been to two community events and understand the rush of attending them, but I will never blindly defend EA on everything.
      I love Tiger 10, think it's a great game. With a few additions, it would have been perfect. Your suggestion being one of them.

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      • DivotMaker
        MVP
        • Jul 2002
        • 2703

        #18
        Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

        Originally posted by kerosene31
        Sorry, I don't think you get what I want. There are pleanty of ways to practice in Tiger 10. There are ZERO ways to practice with the attributes I'll have in capped tournaments, which for the most part makes practice useless.
        When your attributes are capped, what difference does it make where or how you practice? If the tournament is powercap 7, you can practice that very tournament offline with the same conditions. I don't understand what you are missing.

        Originally posted by kerosene31
        For places like Pinehurst where you have to plan your shots into difficult greens, practice is useless.
        Why? If you play with the same conditions as the Live Tournament, why can't you practice this powercapped? I do it all the time....

        Originally posted by kerosene31
        I guess you haven't played tour pro with all attributes capped at 7, it is a completely different game. Every shot has a randomness to it much like real golf.

        On some easy courses this isn't a huge deal, but on many it is. You have to have great course management and if you don't have a good idea of your abilities going in, it is like playing with your eyes closed.
        For your information, other than the 17 days I was in West Africa this month, I have played EVERY TOUR Pro powercapped tournament.

        Originally posted by kerosene31
        I played Pinehurst last night like this and was 10 over through 9 holes.
        And you could have practiced that same tournament beforehand offline....

        Originally posted by kerosene31
        I LOVE playing with capped attributes, but I can't, except in a few online tournaments.
        They are adding more as time goes on...
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        • DivotMaker
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          • Jul 2002
          • 2703

          #19
          Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

          Originally posted by dave374
          I agree completely Kerosene, but Divotmaker is going to defend EA 98% of the time on these boards.
          I've been to two community events and understand the rush of attending them, but I will never blindly defend EA on everything.
          I love Tiger 10, think it's a great game. With a few additions, it would have been perfect. Your suggestion being one of them.
          Not defending ANYONE DAVE....other than my own opinions. Do you have a problem with it? Take it up with Operations Sports Staff if you are so offended by my participation here. As far as your other misinformed comments....it would help if you knew what you were talking about, but since you don't, I'll simply consider the source..........
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          • kerosene31
            Some say he...
            • Dec 2004
            • 1898

            #20
            Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

            Originally posted by DivotMaker
            why can't you practice this powercapped? I do it all the time....
            Wow... I don't know how many times to tell you... powercap is only ONE attribute. The least important one for practice. The lower accuracy is what changes the game considerably. With accuracy capped at 7, the aiming circle is as big as many greens.

            With accuracy at 7, approaches into greens with nearby hazards are totally different. You could go long, short, left or right. You have to shape the ball into tricky greens. With accuracy at 9+, you really just go at the flag and as long as you hit your shot you hit the green easily.

            Even the putting is a little different. Putts aren't automatic, and you need to be safer, even from inside 8 feet.
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            • DivotMaker
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              • Jul 2002
              • 2703

              #21
              Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

              Ok, I am starting to see what you are referring to. Playing with "capped 7" versus "powercap 7" is a difference with the aiming circle. I failed to see any difference personally while playing though, so it is not an impact on me personally, but I do get what you are talking about.

              If you want to see a full attribute cap password for the 360, post it in the EA Tiger forums where they are finalizing the next patch. I can't imagine it being a big issue to put in the game since they are implementing it on the server side for the LIVE Tournaments unless the patch is already done...
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              • Zalf
                Pro
                • Jul 2004
                • 552

                #22
                Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

                Originally posted by kerosene31
                Wow... I don't know how many times to tell you... powercap is only ONE attribute. The least important one for practice. The lower accuracy is what changes the game considerably. With accuracy capped at 7, the aiming circle is as big as many greens.

                With accuracy at 7, approaches into greens with nearby hazards are totally different. You could go long, short, left or right. You have to shape the ball into tricky greens. With accuracy at 9+, you really just go at the flag and as long as you hit your shot you hit the green easily.

                Even the putting is a little different. Putts aren't automatic, and you need to be safer, even from inside 8 feet.
                We must be playing different games because I am getting zero difference between the 7 accuracy and 12 accuracy. Yes the circle changes sizes but the ball still goes exactly to the center of the circle regardless of the size on a straight swing. I can't tell any difference in putting either.

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                • DivotMaker
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2703

                  #23
                  Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

                  Originally posted by Zalf
                  We must be playing different games because I am getting zero difference between the 7 accuracy and 12 accuracy. Yes the circle changes sizes but the ball still goes exactly to the center of the circle regardless of the size on a straight swing. I can't tell any difference in putting either.
                  This is what had me baffled as well....just played the final round at the Weekly Live tournament at Harbour Town which is attribute capped at 7 and saw no real gameplay differences at all....
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                  • kerosene31
                    Some say he...
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 1898

                    #24
                    Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

                    I see a lot of differences with attributes capped at 7. I mean you aren't spraying the ball all over the place, but if you are making a tight shot, being a little off can put you in a bad place.

                    If you are at a par 3 or approach into a green with a large hazard right in front, there is a chance your ball is short or long.

                    I forget the course, but it was yesterday's daily tournament on tour pro. There was an "almost" island green with water all around except on the right side. If my attributes are 12 or close to it, I aim center of the green and as long as I hit the shot close to perfect, I'm fine as long as I judge the wind correctly.

                    Now, with 7 accuracy, different story. My ball might go just a little more off the aiming circle (they seem to go short often even if you hit them well). Well, a little short with water in front.... plunk.

                    So, on that hole, I have to set up a little draw with a low iron to stay over land "just in case".

                    Maybe if you hit your shots with 100% power and 100% perfect, the accuracy doesn't matter? For me, if I hit a shot not quite perfectly, I get a ton more variation. Shots that would still be fine on 12 accuracy are not with 7.

                    Also, there is definitely a difference putting and chipping. Just a subtle little difference, but enough variation to make you miss more putts. I consider myself a pretty good putter on tour pro, and with my putting on 7, I notice a lot more variance with my putts. With 12 attributes, I will only mis-read putts, never miss them.

                    Now, on a simpler course this might not be a big deal, but play a tough course and it definitely plays differently.

                    I notice a difference for sure. Not sure why. Oddly enough, sometimes the live tourney scores are much lower with capped tournaments, and other times not.
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                    • Kernel Pie
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 205

                      #25
                      Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

                      This man speaks the truth. Attributes without question affect gameplay, putting especially. You will miss a ton of 10-15 footers that were automatic with max attributes. That's why I always keep my attributes in the 8-10 range if I can, with no boost clothing. The game is more realistic. Use expert clubs with sweetspots around 25%, driver in the 15% range, and this game is very challenging and fun. Every course is a struggle to break par. No putting meter, power at 8, that's how I like to play.

                      But yeah, EA has to patch it to allow us to cap all our attributes, not just power.

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                      • DivotMaker
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2703

                        #26
                        Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

                        Originally posted by Kernel Pie
                        This man speaks the truth. Attributes without question affect gameplay, putting especially. You will miss a ton of 10-15 footers that were automatic with max attributes.
                        That has not been my experience at all....


                        But yeah, EA has to patch it to allow us to cap all our attributes, not just power.
                        Agreed, but posting about it here and not in the EA Tiger forums will do you no good...
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                        • dave374
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1928

                          #27
                          Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

                          Originally posted by Kernel Pie
                          This man speaks the truth. Attributes without question affect gameplay, putting especially. You will miss a ton of 10-15 footers that were automatic with max attributes.
                          I disagree with this too. Every so often, I'll dig out my "max attributes" clothes. I don't find, other than driving distance, that they have that profound an effect on my game.

                          And I don't think ratings affect putting whatsoever.

                          All that said, I'd love a ratings cap system (not just a password).

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                          • Kernel Pie
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 205

                            #28
                            Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

                            Originally posted by dave374
                            I disagree with this too. Every so often, I'll dig out my "max attributes" clothes. I don't find, other than driving distance, that they have that profound an effect on my game.

                            And I don't think ratings affect putting whatsoever.

                            All that said, I'd love a ratings cap system (not just a password).
                            Assuming this is true, why would they put a putting attribute in this game if it has no effect? Also, with low short game your percentage lies from sand or around the green has much wider variation, meaning a greater level of chance on your shot.

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                            • Kernel Pie
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                              • Oct 2008
                              • 205

                              #29
                              Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

                              Originally posted by DivotMaker
                              Agreed, but posting about it here and not in the EA Tiger forums will do you no good...
                              Already posted it over there, but the patch is already out so it probably won't do anything.

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                              • kerosene31
                                Some say he...
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 1898

                                #30
                                Re: how to limit your attributes tiger woods

                                Putting is different. It isn't a huge difference, but it is there for sure. I missed a gimmie range putt and a few short ones in the cap limited tournament.

                                Longer putts are different too. With 12 attributes, I can lag putt pretty much anything. With a 7 cap, getting close is just that much harder. I notice a lot more of my longer putts ending up 4-6 yards away rather than closer. The distance seems to be the thing.

                                This was on plain greens, nothing extreme. Normally, I can two putt anything on most greens (except the really difficult ones). With 7 putting, more putts end up too short or long.

                                Not a huge difference, but there for sure.

                                Accuracy is the biggest difference overall.
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