OUTRAGE over DLC courses?

[DivotMaker]

Re: OUTRAGE over DLC courses?

Differ all you want, I'm just not seeing enough of a difference to justify what amounts to a $150 purchase each year for me. YMMV. I'm also somewhat doubtful of the claim that licensing is the primary reason for the annual charge. How then to explain that the same crap fantasy courses have to be repurchased as well?

$150 each year? On what planet?

Fantasy courses, I agree. I hate them which is why I am not concerned about the cost, but they should be the cheapest of all the courses as there are no licensing fees.

[yankeesgiants]

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However, those games do not have to license each individual stadium or arena like Tiger has to for each individual course. Huge difference.

Actually they do. The missing remaining authenic bowl game stadiums are missing from NCAA football solely because of licensing issues. So they use generic stadiums instead. Soldier field is missing from madden. I believe NHL uses Boston Arena instead of TD Garden just to name a few.

[JJT]

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Good post yankee, been seeing that posted around.

[Chairman7w]

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I dunno guys... I'm playing a golf game with *just* under 40 courses (most of which are stunningly gorgeous), that I spent about $110 for. I can't find a whole lot to complain about here.

Do I wish they had playoffs? You bet.

Do I wish they didn't put pins on real bad slopes occasionally? Yes, I do.

Do I wish the DLC wasn't tied to the season? Nah, don't really care.


But I have to say I *really* like this game and have already spent hours and will spend many, many, many, more hours playing it (and hopefully winning a Masters). That's not bad for a buck-ten. I'm not gonna get bogged down in the negative, it's just not that important to me.

[ultralow36]

Yeah really if you dont want to pay for it dont....i didnt...simple

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[Dallasin2K3]

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$110 is a bit steep for me. About $50 too steep. Although I'm not sure it's about the pricetag. It seems like many still find Tiger to be about the same as it has been since about 2007... and I think that's the main deterrent.

[Dallasin2K3]

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Let's remember too, guys, that most popular games are sold well below market value.

What do you have to back this statement up? I believe this to be untrue... beside the fact that market value is merely what the majority of consumers are willing to pay for a product... which is not more than $60.

Put it this way: GTA IV was the most expensive game ever created, and I believe the pricetag was ~100 million to create the content and develop the game. However, once that initial investment is made, each disc itself can be packaged and sold for less than a dollar. As a result, GTA IV had $500 million in sales the first week.

Explain to me how games are sold "below market value". They are not.

[Zalf]

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What do you have to back this statement up? I believe this to be untrue... beside the fact that market value is merely what the majority of consumers are willing to pay for a product... which is not more than $60.

Put it this way: GTA IV was the most expensive game ever created, and I believe the pricetag was ~100 million to create the content and develop the game. However, once that initial investment is made, each disc itself can be packaged and sold for less than a dollar. As a result, GTA IV had $500 million in sales the first week.

Explain to me how games are sold "below market value". They are not.

And GTA IV was a great value at that price. For every GTA IV there are a handful of crap games that hit the shelf at $60. Crap games usually drop relatively fast but a good game never rises above that number. So starting sell price of video games has nearly zero to do with quality and quality on has a downward influence on pricing after release.

[raneman85]

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$110 is a bit steep for me. About $50 too steep. Although I'm not sure it's about the pricetag. It seems like many still find Tiger to be about the same as it has been since about 2007... and I think that's the main deterrent.

I agree. Just played a game and it's good and would consider buying it.. But not good enough to fork out 65 bucks + all the DLC. Sorry, I just don't view EA as gamer friendly. I can live without it.

[DivotMaker]

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FYI...Dev Blog regarding DLC courses and Career Mode...

http://www.ea.com/tiger-woods/blog/dlc-road-to-the-masters

[MrArlingtonBeach]

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FYI...Dev Blog regarding DLC courses and Career Mode...

http://www.ea.com/tiger-woods/blog/d...to-the-masters

I read that too, but there is a dissenting opinion still out there and they back it up with some research.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/5539789.page

[DivotMaker]

Re: OUTRAGE over DLC courses?

I read that too, but there is a dissenting opinion still out there and they back it up with some research.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/5539789.page

I think I will put my money on the TW Devs since they created and built the game....

[MrArlingtonBeach]

I just wanted put that out there. The whole situation (DLC inclusion in career mode) has been somewhat sloppy. Theres been confusion about world rankings, being told to skip events unless you buy DLC, etc. I think it could have been done a lot more efficiently and with less confusion.

[DonkeyJote]

I've read various articles stating that top games such as call of duty would make much more money overall if they charged more (and fair market value is the price at which you can make the most money), but they can't do so because the console companies won't let them. I've also read that Activision would have been better off had they charged $5 - 10 more for their dlc. Games are not sold in a completely free market because the console makers put a limit on how much a game can be sold for. If sony and microsoft lifted that, I guarantee you games like Call of Duty and Madden would cost more, and Tiger Woods might increase in price as well.

DLC exists for two reasons. One, to get more market value for the popular games that cannot be sold for more than $60, and two, to combat the used game market.

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[Perfect Zero]

Re: OUTRAGE over DLC courses?

I've read various articles stating that top games such as call of duty would make much more money overall if they charged more (and fair market value is the price at which you can make the most money), but they can't do so because the console companies won't let them. I've also read that Activision would have been better off had they charged $5 - 10 more for their dlc. Games are not sold in a completely free market because the console makers put a limit on how much a game can be sold for. If sony and microsoft lifted that, I guarantee you games like Call of Duty and Madden would cost more, and Tiger Woods might increase in price as well.

DLC exists for two reasons. One, to get more market value for the popular games that cannot be sold for more than $60, and two, to combat the used game market.

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That's a shocker. Instead of charging $60, they want to charge $70 to make $10 more per game? Come on, we all know that if you charge more money, you get more profit (until you reach a price point where people won't buy the product). These games have an initial cost, and they make up for it though new sales. That initial cost may be $500,000,000, but if you sale $650,000,000 in the first five days, you have $150,000,000 plus holiday sales (this example is from Call of Duty: Black Ops). These guys aren't losing money.

For Tiger Woods 12, I see the same stuff that I've seen in past TW games. Golf is one of the few sports that I play IRL, so I might just skip this one.