Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 13 - List Your Top 3 Likes and Dislikes

[Steve_OS]

We'd love to hear your top 3 likes and dislikes about Tiger Woods PGA Tour 13. Any and all items listed will be noted and brought to the upcoming Community Event for Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14, via CoreySA.

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[OnlookerDelay]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 13 - Top 3 Likes and Dislikes

3 Likes

• Online Country Clubs
  
• Pitching and chipping game is more realistic
  
• The Total Swing Control concept... (execution leaves something to be desired)
  

3 Dislikes

• The lack of a rhythm component in Total Swing Control. There's still an inertialess, twitchy tempo required for full shots that cheapen's the swing model.
  
• Lack of camera configuration options. I don't like the Follow-cam we are forced to use in Live Tournaments, and the True-Aim camera needs to have some shift to a downrange camera at the user's discretion options. I'd like to hold the True-Aim perspective for 75%of the ball's flight, then switch to a panning, downrange camera the rest of the way.
  
• Live Tournaments are experientially "dead" in Tiger 13. We need more "live" atmosphere. We need hole by hole, real time scoring updates, summaries of how others who've already played the hole scored on it, the option to play along with the recorded round of a player who's played the round before you. We could play with recorded rounds of others with Gamernet, why not live tournaments. We should be able to play Live Tournaments in multiplayer groups in our Online Country Clubs.

[CoreySA]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 13 - Top 3 Likes and Dislikes

Here is my personal top 3 'likes' and 'dislikes' --

Likes -

1. Country Club: Although it still lacked a lot of much needed features and more social integration, it was a great starting point. Hope to see this expanded on in Tiger 14.

2. Swing Mechanic (non putting): Though I question the putting meter that was chosen, the rest of the mechanic was a solid re-boot. Again, I'd like to see an expansion of this feature for 14 including a better putting meter and more sensitivity on harder difficulty levels.

3. Coin System: I know I might be in the minority, but I thought the coin system was great for users who played a ton and allowed for access to DLC courses. While I'd like to see it scaled to allow for more free plays on DLC courses, I know many people who got every DLC course for free - that's a pretty cool step if you ask me.

Dislikes -

1. Putting Meter: Ugh, not much positive to say about it. Didn't work for some camera angles at all and was over-sensitive. Usually I'm ok with a spike in sensitivity, but putting in real golf requires a balanced pendulum swing - something not replicated with the new meter. Hope to see an overhaul in this department.

2. Lack of Online Features: While every other sports title is giving us online franchises and careers, Tiger is still behind the trend here. We need Online Career mode. This would add a ton of replayability to the title.

3. Not enough world courses: It's great that they added even more courses but I'd like to start seeing more world courses - UK, Canadian...Can we finally get a Collector's Edition that includes all of the courses?! I'd love to see a $79 2 disc set that gave me all of the courses at a discount.

[cdawg44]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 13 - Top 3 Likes and Dislikes

1.) The new swing mechanism - I love how forgiving it is at lower levels, but how it punishes you at the higher levels. Also overhitting the shot is a great touch, so that making perfect contact all the more paramount. As of now, it feels just about right.

2.) The Coin System- Yes, I have gotten a bunch of free courses by just playing the game, but I wanted Atlanta Athletic Club, so I just bought it. I felt that it gave the players options and I enjoyed just playing the game to get coins.

3.) Course Mastery System - This time, it feels perfect and by playing the game long enough, you can master the course, instead of the crazy things you had to do on Tiger 12.


Dislikes

1.) Career Mode - The Career mode overall is good, but the lack of playoff holes kinda kills the vibe. Also major tournaments don't really feel that way too me. They just feel like another tournament. I wanna feel the electricity of playing at a major with roaring crowds. In addition, the return of the USGA liscence and the rules of golf and seeking the PGA of America liscence for the PGA championship would both be nice touches in the game. Also President's cup and Ryder Cup modes would be nice to have again.

2.) Hazard Play - Hitting the ball into the rough, bunker and anywhere off line should be more of a penalty. Even if I strike the ball perfect, there should be snap hooks and double cross shots based on the lie I have. Make me pay for bad shots.

3.) Collector's Edition - as said above, I would love a collector's edition with every course offered instead of having to download some of my favorites every year. That, or somehow allow us to use courses used in previous years in newer editions.

[CoreySA]

1.) The new swing mechanism - I love how forgiving it is at lower levels, but how it punishes you at the higher levels. Also overhitting the shot is a great touch, so that making perfect contact all the more paramount. As of now, it feels just about right.

2.) The Coin System- Yes, I have gotten a bunch of free courses by just playing the game, but I wanted Atlanta Athletic Club, so I just bought it. I felt that it gave the players options and I enjoyed just playing the game to get coins.

3.) Course Mastery System - This time, it feels perfect and by playing the game long enough, you can master the course, instead of the crazy things you had to do on Tiger 12.


Dislikes

1.) Career Mode - The Career mode overall is good, but the lack of playoff holes kinda kills the vibe. Also major tournaments don't really feel that way too me. They just feel like another tournament. I wanna feel the electricity of playing at a major with roaring crowds. In addition, the return of the USGA liscence and the rules of golf and seeking the PGA of America liscence for the PGA championship would both be nice touches in the game. Also President's cup and Ryder Cup modes would be nice to have again.

2.) Hazard Play - Hitting the ball into the rough, bunker and anywhere off line should be more of a penalty. Even if I strike the ball perfect, there should be snap hooks and double cross shots based on the lie I have. Make me pay for bad shots.

3.) Collector's Edition - as said above, I would love a collector's edition with every course offered instead of having to download some of my favorites every year. That, or somehow allow us to use courses used in previous years in newer editions.

To clear up DLC transfers - the reason DLC can't, and my guess will never be, brought over to next year's title is due to the fact that each year those DLC packs go through coding changes and other various upgrades. For instance - in Tiger 13, the dev team worked hard to properly scale the courses and objects/backgrounds to mimic more real to life sizes. In old Tigers the fans were all around 4ft. tall if scaled to real proportions.

What I'm saying is that as soon as you change one part of a DLC course then it's pretty much new. So if they improved graphics in Tiger 14 at all then only choice they have is to upgrade DLC courses or keep them exactly the same as last year which I'm sure people would complain about if graphics weren't uniform throughout the entire title.

The only hope is to find some type of workaround. I thought the coins were a great start last year. I think this year it would be nice to somehow offer a discounted download to those of us who constantly buy each course every season. If we got a bigger discount through Season Ticket or a Collector's Edition which bundled all courses together discounted at retail on a separate disc would be a huge benefit.

[cdawg44]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 13 - List Your Top 3 Likes and Dislikes

To clear up DLC transfers - the reason DLC can't, and my guess will never be, brought over to next year's title is due to the fact that each year those DLC packs go through coding changes and other various upgrades. For instance - in Tiger 13, the dev team worked hard to properly scale the courses and objects/backgrounds to mimic more real to life sizes. In old Tigers the fans were all around 4ft. tall if scaled to real proportions.

What I'm saying is that as soon as you change one part of a DLC course then it's pretty much new. So if they improved graphics in Tiger 14 at all then only choice they have is to upgrade DLC courses or keep them exactly the same as last year which I'm sure people would complain about if graphics weren't uniform throughout the entire title.

The only hope is to find some type of workaround. I thought the coins were a great start last year. I think this year it would be nice to somehow offer a discounted download to those of us who constantly buy each course every season. If we got a bigger discount through Season Ticket or a Collector's Edition which bundled all courses together discounted at retail on a separate disc would be a huge benefit.

Thanks for clearing that up. I'm just looking for a solution to that issue. I know I probably pay 40-50 bucks a year on DLC courses, even after buying the Collector's Edition the past two years. I love the game that much, but I can't help but feel that I'm getting jilted by payin for the same course the past 3 years. LOL. I'm paying 120 bucks for the game for the all the content now. Plus, I play more on the DLC courses than I do the ones on the standard edition. I'd rather just pay 80-90 bucks in one swoop with multiple discs on Xbox and be done with it. Trust if the game is good, people who want it, won't mind the mutiple discs. See L.A. Noire and Battlefield 3.

[CoreySA]

Thanks for clearing that up. I'm just looking for a solution to that issue. I know I probably pay 40-50 bucks a year on DLC courses, even after buying the Collector's Edition the past two years. I love the game that much, but I can't help but feel that I'm getting jilted by payin for the same course the past 3 years. LOL. I'm paying 120 bucks for the game for the all the content now. Plus, I play more on the DLC courses than I do the ones on the standard edition. I'd rather just pay 80-90 bucks in one swoop with multiple discs on Xbox and be done with it. Trust if the game is good, people who want it, won't mind the mutiple discs. See L.A. Noire and Battlefield 3.

Yeah man I hear you. I've bought all DLC every year so I feel your pain. My saving grace last year was the fact that I have Season Ticket so I got the 20% off each course which was nice. I'm still in full support of a 'all DLC courses' Collector's Edition though. I know I've already mentioned that to Tiger's Community Manager so hopefully it's been passed along.

[huntt26]

** FYI - I'm a hardcore sports gamer, but a casual Tiger player. I love the game, but I primarily bought it to golf with Kinect

3 Likes
1) Kinect Golfing
2) Online Country Clubs
3) Course Mastery System

3 Dislikes
1) Menu design for Kinect - just doesn't work well, I always picked up my controller until I was on the course
2) Putting - the concept is good, but it's just not as precise as I'd like
3) Add in fun mini-games like are in the Tiger challenge to earn XP and just mess around (especially with Kinect)

[Dazraz]

Likes:

Large variety of Courses
Physics
Visuals

Dislikes:

Lack of a deep mode for Offline Multiplayers
Needs more Licensed Pros
Would like to see Licensed Tournaments for all Game Modes

[shigogouhou]

Like:
- DLC courses individually buyable with in-game money; my big fear was having to pay $5-$10 for a set of courses just to get one, so being able to earn it through a ton of play or shortcutting my way into buying it outright was really nice.
- Course Mastery & sponsor goals is really interesting; motivates me to play "realistically" (i.e. I'll drive a big dogleg to the fairway and be 150y from the green if I'm going for max FIRs, whereas without it I would always cut the corner & take a rough/bunker shot from ~25y instead)
- VIsuals. Maybe it's because I skipped quite a few iterations but this looks phenomenal.

Dislikes:
- Difficulty tuning in career mode. It seems like Hard aims for a -9 finish for the CPU, but Very Hard is aiming for -18. I'd like to see more personal tuning for this so I can constantly tune the CPU to play around my scoring range; as it is now shooting around a -10 puts you either winning every tournament on Hard or barely getting in the top 50 on Very Hard.
- Swing meter on short swings. If I'm aiming at 50% power for a PW, a "full-power" shot should default me to that 50% power, rather than letting me hit the ball twice as hard as I want to with 100% aim-defying power. It would make it easier, sure, but who realistically bombs a 25y flop shot 50+y back into the fairway?
- Get rid of the "warps"; what I mean is if you hit the ball into a lie where your golfer can't realistically hit it via the available animations, the game will warp the ball to a location where it can come up with a swing for you. If that means your ball in the bunker warps back into the rough, so be it! I want to struggle with those ridiculous under-the-lip shots I earned, not be handed a superior lie.

[UMhester04]

Like

-putting
-chipping
-graphics

Dislike

-its almost like the game is on training wheels, you can technically get through a round with a decent score, without even having to switch clubs once or move your aiming marker - it does it all for you and makes the game very straight forward.
-driving and long irons are WAY too accurate..FIR% should not be in the 80s and 90s - again making the game feel too easy


That is all

[JODYE]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 13 - List Your Top 3 Likes and Dislikes

Likes:

-DLC content brilliantly implemented. In-game money that can be earned was a great idea and hope to see this become a mainstay in the series.
-Course Visuals are incredible.
-Course Mastery. Think that has already been driven home by a few of the previous posters. Great way to motivate players to play "sim" golf.

Dislikes:

-Swing Animations all are pretty poor. Seems to be no force behind the shot. As if they are swinging at 30% all the time. Also, none of the swings represent their real life counterpart. Not even Tiger's looks anything like real life.
-Presentation leaves alot to be desired. Would like to a more TV broadcast centered presentation. Seems like they are caught in the middle between trying to make it seem like it's on TV and you're on the course. Would like to see pre-shot routines, practice swings before addressing the ball, players grabbing grass to check the wind direction etc. Also get rid of the players standing like zombies before you select your shot. Looks bad.
-Sound. This also ties in with presentation. More player specific crowd chants and cheers. Bigger pops for making a putt if the tournament is close etc. Also ball striking sounds need much improvement and I think the sound of the ball hitting the trees has been in since about 2005.

[Hollywood88]

Likes:
-Swing mechanic, chipping has now given the game an element of finesse that is difficult to master.
-Country Clubs, love the weekly bonuses for being an active member in the club over the course of a week.
-Love the course mastery mechanic and the ability to earn DLC courses by playing the game. (Although the courses should be available in your career if you have purchased rounds.)

Dislike:
-In career, no computer guys ever drop a stroke on the leaderboard thus removing the illusion that you are actually playing against a field. If I see a guy on the leaderboard at "amen corner," I would think that he would drop at least one stroke.
-Better online lobbies that show inportant information up front like what level the game is being played on and are pins allowed? I'm a tour pro player and it' would be nice to have a lobby for just tour pro players that want to play a game.
-Pull back the distance you can drive balls as when it gets to the mid three's it gets a bit rediculous. If you want to git to the 350's you should ahve to rely on the rolls. The warping balls needs to go. I've seen pretty tame shots into a bunker get pulled out. Rough needs to be more of a penalty (Although I like the fact that you need to adjust your club to hit it flush)

[mrsaito]

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 13 - List Your Top 3 Likes and Dislikes

Likes:
Course variety and quality in collector's edition. It was nice that they weeded out the Fantasy courses.

Realistic AI scores on Tour Pro Level

Career Mode. The priogression felt right to me in this year's game (although I'm not a really skilled gamer)

Dislikes:
Weather Effects Too Pronounced. Wind velocities a too high, too much rain in Dubai.

Weather Did Not Effect AI Players. While my golfer is fighting adverse conditions the AI scores were the same as when the weather was perfect.

Driving Too Easy. Still a bit too forgiving, although this can be tuned by using inferior equipment. Miss the club tuner.

[Pish]

Top 3 likes

1. Core game mechanics (swing mechanics)
2. amount of courses
3. Country clubs

Top 3 dislikes

1. Glitches (no flag unacceptable, old glitches around for yrs)
2. Too many modes online and ability to see what swing type your playing (keep it simple, prefferably 2 modes online)
3. Pins..get rid of them or at least get rid of shot preview and calm the wind