Rory McIlroy PGA Tour Gameplay Video - Arnold Palmer Invitational & More Details

[A_Quiet_Pro]

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To be honest, it seems like the same engine they've had since 2009.

They can say Frostbite all they want, but other than the improved graphics, all the resources seem the exact same. Same fly overs, same animations, same camera angles, same cut scenes... Sigh.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they're using Frostbite (cause it looks improved, to be sure), but they just can't seem to shake some of the same old, same old.

NOTE: Don't mean to sound so negative, I DO think I'll end up picking it up first day.

You had your "to be honest", now here's mine.... To be honest, the new footage didn't show anything that frostbite shown itself in... Now if they had a ball drop (with the new options), or if they had a shot go to a different fairway (where they could play a shot without penalty), or if they had a regular round showing no load times (not just the quick holes but like the first 5 or 6 of an 18 hole round just for an example).. THEN frostbite's in action... what we saw very well could've came from the old TW engine.... (it didn't, but you get my point)... I swear people on here treat video's like words and speech.... out of context.

[DivotMaker]

Re: Rory McIlroy PGA Tour Gameplay Video - Arnold Palmer Invitational & More Details

To be honest, it seems like the same engine they've had since 2009.

They can say Frostbite all they want, but other than the improved graphics, all the resources seem the exact same. Same fly overs, same animations, same camera angles, same cut scenes... Sigh.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they're using Frostbite (cause it looks improved, to be sure), but they just can't seem to shake some of the same old, same old.

NOTE: Don't mean to sound so negative, I DO think I'll end up picking it up first day.

ZERO content came over from the TW engine.....

[Chairman7w]

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I swear people on here treat video's like words and speech.... out of context.

To be fair my muted friend, that video is all we have to go on at this point.

It's just discussion, and opinions on what we've seen. That's kinda what we do here, it's a message board.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

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ZERO content came over from the TW engine.....

Exactly why the game took 2-3 year hiatus.. They were re writing the source code from scratch COMPLETELY in FB3, NONE of the old TW stuff "made the cut"... lol (it's great how many puns are useful when discussing golf)

[pietasterp]

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ZERO content came over from the TW engine.....

An important distinction, and thanks for pointing that out.

I think in defense of Chariman and AQPro - and I don't want to put words in their mouths - but I think what they're responding to is that what we've seen in these videos doesn't look like anything we haven't seen (or couldn't be done) in prior EA golf games. Not saying that they pulled over old assets or parts of the old games, but technology aside, it honestly does look like the old Tiger games with better graphics. Not saying that's good or bad, but haven't seen anything - yet - that would suggest there's a brand new engine under the hood. And when it gets down to it, I don't really care if there is or isn't a new engine, all that matters is how does the game play in actual action?

At this point, I'll just wait until I hear what you all think after you get your hands on it for a good long while. Honeymoon period aside, I'll be interested to see how the new product is.

[JODYE]

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Environment looks great, not much else does.

Player model is atrocious and moves really awkwardly, and my god those celebrations.

Good to see the golf clubs still look huge too lol

[Chairman7w]

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Exactly why the game took 2-3 year hiatus.. They were re writing the source code from scratch COMPLETELY in FB3, NONE of the old TW stuff "made the cut"... lol (it's great how many puns are useful when discussing golf)

I don't know man... If you watch TW14 here, you'll see a *very* similar overall vibe and feel. If they didn't port over assets, then they really tried hard to make it just like the last version (with notably improved graphics)

Just jump to 2:30 here and watch.

https://youtu.be/g_woXgWTAKg

[Br_Mac16]

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Interesting, some of the things I saw; no load time between holes, faster swing animation, more realistic ball flight, better ball physics upon landing, ball marks on green, divots taken from fairway. That's just to name a few.
I saw a myriad of improvements in this short video clip and for those that are turned off by celebrations, they are no different than what we saw in earlier TW games. There's no reason to believe they cannot be turned off.

[Chairman7w]

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Oh yeah! Agreed, all that is great. Definitely looking forward to playing this game.

Interesting, some of the things I saw; no load time between holes, faster swing animation, more realistic ball flight, better ball physics upon landing, ball marks on green, divots taken from fairway. That's just to name a few.
I saw a myriad of improvements in this short video clip and for those that are turned off by celebrations, they are no different than what we saw in earlier TW games. There's no reason to believe they cannot be turned off.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

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I don't know man... If you watch TW14 here, you'll see a *very* similar overall vibe and feel. If they didn't port over assets, then they really tried hard to make it just like the last version (with notably improved graphics)

Just jump to 2:30 here and watch.

https://youtu.be/g_woXgWTAKg

You know, a similar argument was made for the PS4 version of The Show. People complained they took too much of the PS3 stuff over, and that things LOOKED a lot like the PS3 version did etc.... It's Baseball!!, How much different is it supposed to look??? Same thing here, It's Golf!!!!, How much different do you want it to look?? (Not attacking YOU personally there, just in general) (Just to say, I didn't watch your video, I just said this going solely off your post.)

[Chairman7w]

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YES!!! Great point, and I thought about that, too. In looking up old TW Videos, I did the same for The Show and it's the exact same thing! Same animations, motion caps, whatever. In old PS2 graphics, but the same moves.

I'm not a programmer, so I don't know all the terms and labels. Whether it's assets, resources, mo-caps, scripts, etc (shrug), I don't know.

But it you play The Golf Club, you'll see it's... different from other golf games - in it's presentation, camera angles, views, transitions, etc. If you play Golden Tee Golf, you'll see it's different. Same with Hot Shots.

If you look at TW Golf from 2009 on, you'll see an incredible sameness from year to year. Right up until this year. Some might call that consistency. :-)

It's not an insult, by any means, Lord knows I spend my $60 bucks every year on it (except last year, of course). But I don't buy that they rewrote this year's version from scratch. It's way too similar.

Oh - and go look at the vid!

You know, a similar argument was made for the PS4 version of The Show. People complained they took too much of the PS3 stuff over, and that things LOOKED a lot like the PS3 version did etc.... It's Baseball!!, How much different is it supposed to look??? Same thing here, It's Golf!!!!, How much different do you want it to look?? (Not attacking YOU personally there, just in general) (Just to say, I didn't watch your video, I just said this going solely off your post.)

[A_Quiet_Pro]

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But I don't buy that they rewrote this year's version from scratch. It's way too similar.

Oh - and go look at the vid!

Again, there's more than enough instances they've shown that does prove the difference in coding between TW and FB. (Better graphics, caddies being shown, divots being mades, etc.) But that's my point. TW COULDN"T have done that with it's limited power and resources for what it was designed for... and as for FB looking like TW.... again IT'S GOLF! It's gonna look like GOLF. IDK how else to put it.

[lhslancers]

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You know, a similar argument was made for the PS4 version of The Show. People complained they took too much of the PS3 stuff over, and that things LOOKED a lot like the PS3 version did etc.... It's Baseball!!, How much different is it supposed to look??? Same thing here, It's Golf!!!!, How much different do you want it to look?? (Not attacking YOU personally there, just in general) (Just to say, I didn't watch your video, I just said this going solely off your post.)

The PS3 is a HD console. Of course details will or at least should look better on the newer machines but if anyone expected Star Trek NG here they will be disappointed in the current gen of machines.

[sroz39]

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That video was great! You have to take the good with the bad obviously, with the worst negative being that the guy played on Arcade mode and set his golfer up with over-the-top celebrations.

But you see where this game is going to shine and I noticed instantly the different flight path of the ball in the air. Having just played TW13 using Follow Cam and watching this video, the differences are extremely noticeable.

A real golf ball travels in a sort of upwards trajectory, and once the spin is able to catch up so to speak, the ball "balloons" down, hitting a mini wall almost. In the old TW games, every shot was a line drive so to speak and that's why the ball physics looked a little odd.

But watch the guy hit driver, watch the ball continue to rise ever so slightly for about 80% of the ball flight, then start coming down relatively quickly. Well. Done. Devs. A thing of beauty.

And though I'm not a huge fan of the follow cam, they've even improved it here for what it is and its most noticeable on the dog leg. They keep the hole and green in view, so the follow cam almost turns to look at the hole while keeping the ball on screen. Not my thing but a nice change.

I had faith and it feels like my faith will be rewarded. Looks like a great step up and foundation for next gen golf. Totally forgot to mention, love the presentation. Nobilo is one of my favorites, a great addition to the series.

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[Chairman7w]

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Nobilo is one of my favorites, a great addition to the series.

YES! The commentary! So far, this seems like a great addition, maybe the most significant. Commentary has grown SO stale in sports games, (The Show ugh!), and it sounds like the booth here has a very easy, unforced style that is a very welcomed addition.