Tour Gameplay Style Fan Feedback

[Klocker]

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So if I'm wanting to play with added difficulty by leaving the target at the 135 yard maximum distance and shortening my backswing to achieve a 120 yard shot, I would realize a "miss-hit" penalty because my backswing wasn't 100%, right?

Oh I'm not liking the sound of that at all. I guess it's fine for people who always use dial a shot and full swings but for those of us who want the game to default to Full and allow us to adjust our backswing to affect distance as in Real Life... then we are not being helped by this, but hurt.


I am assuming this is completely optional mode (I hope!) but while doing this please also include a tweak to default to full shots that not only do not punish partial swings but make the swing stick even more sensitive to allow greater control.


Please handsward.... consider. Thx

[DivotMaker]

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Yes I'm pretty sure that's what will happen........takes it back to dial a distance.

The other thing is if you make a 'Custom' shot your swing length gets capped.
If you select a custom of half the clubs max distance your golfer can only make a half swing with a potential of a +10% over swing.

I am not seeing what you describe and I am hitting all sorts of non-100% shots....lets see what the updated swing looks like, then adjust if need from there?

[sroz39]

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Oh I'm not liking the sound of that at all. I guess it's fine for people who always use dial a shot and full swings but for those of us who want the game to default to Full and allow us to adjust our backswing to affect distance as in Real Life... then we are not being helped by this, but hurt.


I am assuming this is completely optional mode (I hope!) but while doing this please also include a tweak to default to full shots that not only do not punish partial swings but make the swing stick even more sensitive to allow greater control.


Please handsward.... consider. Thx
In fact

This is going to be the default Tour mode setting, from what I understand of Handsward's update post. Tour mode will be left at Normal swing difficulty and this new mechanic will be how it plays. So you'd have to move the aiming marker to how far you want to hit and go from there.

I play on 3 click offline and as far as I know, it won't be touched and not moving the marker will work as it did before and how you guys hope Tour mode works.

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[RIFRIG]

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I am not seeing what you describe and I am hitting all sorts of non-100% shots....lets see what the updated swing looks like, then adjust if need from there?

It's something that will not occur if 'Full' is selected but if you hit a perfect 3/4 swing with a wedge it will display 'short swing 25%'.
The update I'm sure will read this as a mis-hit,even if you stay on plane.
The only way to achieve that swing without a mis-hit is to move the marker to 3/4 distance,now when you execute a 3/4 swing you will be able to hit a Full/Perfect result.

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It's something that will not occur if 'Full' is selected but if you hit a perfect 3/4 swing with a wedge it will display 'short swing 25%'.
The update I'm sure will read this as a mis-hit,even if you stay on plane.
The only way to achieve that swing without a mis-hit is to move the marker to 3/4 distance,now when you execute a 3/4 swing you will be able to hit a Full/Perfect result.

This is the way I'm interpreting what I read as well. Where I really want this partial shot capability is with pitch and chip shots. I want be responsible for modulating my backswing distance and downswing speed to produce the desired shot. If I've got a 25 yard pitch shot, I want to put a 50% pitch stroke on the ball with my wedge, not have the game adjust the setup to where I wind up using a swing motion that feels just like a full-blown drive.

Anyway, I'm still curious to see how this works... even if it's like I'm envisioning, it will still be better than what we've got, IMO.

[RIFRIG]

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This is the way I'm interpreting what I read as well. Where I really want this partial shot capability is with pitch and chip shots. I want be responsible for modulating my backswing distance and downswing speed to produce the desired shot. If I've got a 25 yard pitch shot, I want to put a 50% pitch stroke on the ball with my wedge, not have the game adjust the setup to where I wind up using a swing motion that feels just like a full-blown drive.

Anyway, I'm still curious to see how this works... even if it's like I'm envisioning, it will still be better than what we've got, IMO.

If the 'Custom' set up works the same for analog movement as it does for 3 click I will be very happy.
In a ' Custom' shot you have a set distance marker in the 3 click UI to hit your second click,if you miss the marker the golfer animation will continue to make a full swing.
In 'Tour' the backswing is capped by your adjusted distance marker.
I'll be happy with the swing miss-hit being tied to the distance marker but we must be allowed to complete a full backswing even if we've dialled back our marker to a small percentage of the selected clubs maximum distance.

[Klocker]

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Man I have everything turned up to the hardest difficulty (except green grid on) and I always select full shot and adjust from there and I can hardly make a cut in Career mode.


Really loving the challenge here. Sure I could shoot lower if I just used the default auto shot swing mechanic (distance and swing limiter) that the game spoon feeds us but adjusting it like I'm in control makes it so much more rewarding.


I just hope this new swing mechanic does not affect those of us that manually modulate control through our backswing?


Please set an option to disable all the swing limiting and auto distance arrows.

[DivotMaker]

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Man I have everything turned up to the hardest difficulty (except green grid on) and I always select full shot and adjust from there and I can hardly make a cut in Career mode.


Really loving the challenge here. Sure I could shoot lower if I just used the default auto shot swing mechanic (distance and swing limiter) that the game spoon feeds us but adjusting it like I'm in control makes it so much more rewarding.


I just hope this new swing mechanic does not affect those of us that manually modulate control through our backswing?


Please set an option to disable all the swing limiting and auto distance arrows.

Agreed. Just got to the Spring Inv. at Wolf Creek building my PS4 CAG now. Got to +5 on the outward 9 before coming in at +3 to finish round 1. Got my act together in round 2. Shot a 64 to jump into contention at -5. Leader is at -16 Ryan Palmer. Was afraid to miss the cut if I left grids off, but round 2 was much better since I did not put two drives in the creekbed like I did in round 1.....anxious to play the rest of the event....

[DivotMaker]

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Wow, shot 77 in round 3 with 8-12 MPH winds to go back to E par. Could not make an approach shot closer than 30 feet and could not make a putt to save my life with 3 double bogeys. Just played the 4th round in 10-15 MPH winds and shot 67 to end up -5 and in 7th place, 6 shots behind the leader. Had a number of looks at birdies and missed them usually an inch or two on either side of the cup and had one downhiller that came to rest an inch from the cup. To me, that is compelling and realistic gameplay.

As long as I am getting PGA TOUR-like gameplay, I am happy for now. Anxious to see the challenge ramped up soon because we will all get better with each new round completed.

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Agreed. Just got to the Spring Inv. at Wolf Creek building my PS4 CAG now.

Ah, so you got the PS4 version... I'm curious to find out if you see a resolution difference between it and the XB1 version, and possibly any difference in the frame rates? Would you say that the PS4 version is 1080p and the XB1 900p? Just curious...

[DivotMaker]

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Ah, so you got the PS4 version... I'm curious to find out if you see a resolution difference between it and the XB1 version, and possibly any difference in the frame rates? Would you say that the PS4 version is 1080p and the XB1 900p? Just curious...

PS4 is easily the better looking and performing version IMO. Everything is rendered cleaner and there seems to be FAR less Depth of Field in the PS4, in fact hardly any IIRC. Bought the PS4 version Wednesday along with a new PS4 (I finally bit the bullet and bought one to go with my new Xbox One). Haven't turned on the Xbox since and have only played RM since as well.

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PS4 is easily the better looking and performing version IMO. Everything is rendered cleaner and there seems to be FAR less Depth of Field in the PS4, in fact hardly any IIRC. Bought the PS4 version Wednesday along with a new PS4 (I finally bit the bullet and bought one to go with my new Xbox One). Haven't turned on the Xbox since and have only played RM since as well.

That seals the deal for me as to which version I'll buy then. Yours is the 7th report that I've read now that reaches the same conclusion. Interesting to note that you see a performance difference also. Do you think EA Sports is intentionally sitting on resolution and frame rate information about RMPGAT, or are they generally not inclined to disclose information like this? I know I see resolution and frame rate information routinely tossed about among EA games, but since the NCAA Football franchise ended, I really only pay attention to EA Sports' golf games anymore.

[DivotMaker]

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Zero mention of resolutions on either package. Pretty sure to protect their relationship with MS.

[RIFRIG]

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PS4 is easily the better looking and performing version IMO. Everything is rendered cleaner and there seems to be FAR less Depth of Field in the PS4, in fact hardly any IIRC. Bought the PS4 version Wednesday along with a new PS4 (I finally bit the bullet and bought one to go with my new Xbox One). Haven't turned on the Xbox since and have only played RM since as well.

I don't see any DOF used in either platform,I think what your referring to is the lack of detail in distant textures that is consistent to XOne & PS4.
Frostbite 3 has a lag issue that I've noticed on other titles that doesn't immediately allow the game to completely focus,unfortunately on RM it is really bad.
I'm hoping that the optimisation of this game is top of the update list because the pop in is killing the look of these otherwise impressive course recreations.

[DivotMaker]

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I don't see any DOF used in either platform,I think what your referring to is the lack of detail in distant textures that is consistent to XOne & PS4.
Frostbite 3 has a lag issue that I've noticed on other titles that doesn't immediately allow the game to completely focus,unfortunately on RM it is really bad.
I'm hoping that the optimisation of this game is top of the update list because the pop in is killing the look of these otherwise impressive course recreations.

I am no expert on FB3, but in the AM it appears to be DoF, but that could be something else. Either way, I agree with you and it looks better on PS4 than Xbox One for obvious reasons....