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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
The 3-click is tough for sure. I might try my last 5 tournaments of Year 2 with it then wait and see what updates might actually show up for this game. Probably none, but I'll give it a chance.
I have to ask, how in the world do you putt without the green grid or the beads on? We're trying to read a 3-dimensional concept on a 2-dimensional screen.Comment
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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
It's not hard. You have to set the swing camera to LOW, then you can see some slopes and undulations. I look at the slope at the ball, the cup and also the horizon of the green. There are also som grain you can read as well. I find grid less putting very realistic and rewarding for Career and offline play. Won't use online (don't think you can anyway) as no need to handicap yourself needlessly.PC / Xbox One X
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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
Well I lied and ended up buying it after a couple people who's opinion I value bought it and gave me their honest thoughts.
Man I'm so glad I found this thread as 3-click has made me enjoy video game golf again. TGC and this game, it was way too easy for me to hit it straight using analog but this really adds to the experience. Love that just missing the mark can send me off my intended target to the left or right. Much much more realistic to me even though I thought I was done with 3click once I graduated from the Genesis.
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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
This is one of the few things DivotMaker and I disagree on hahaha. I'm sure I could eventually play without green grids but it feels way too much like a lottery. The green grid is a good substitute for being able to actually properly read a green, and so I try not to frustrate myself too much by turning them off.
Maybe if these vr headsets take off, it'll be a more viable option to play without grids.
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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
I would watch that for sure! Although I don't know when I would actually "master" 3 click on Expert enough to need the added challenge.
It'd be interesting to see how it's done though. Let me know when/if you do and I'll watch it, live or archived.
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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
To anyone reading, if "3-click is the new sim mode", then that should tell you how truly bad RMPGA is on Tour mode.Comment
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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
Oddly enough, the fact that 3-click seems to be one of the best ways to play is making me more interested in the game. I've always found rocking a stick down, then up to be a bit mind-numbing.Comment
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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
I wouldn't say RMPGAT's Tour mode is truly bad, but it is well short of what I think it could, and ultimately, will be. If I could somehow embrace the 3-click interface, I'd buy the game now and let it tide me over until they gussied up the Tour mode, or better yet Tour custom mode to what I'm after; it just doesn't light my fire, even as well as it's implemented in this game.Duke Football? Hell yes it's Duke Football! --- Coach CutcliffeComment
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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
It is what you make of it. No Developer is EVER going to make a Golf game/simulation that everyone will like or connect with. You either make the best of what is offered, or you sit on the sidelines. Tour Custom is a helluva simulation with grids off and only "FULL" shots instead of default shots executed. Again, opinions vary, obviously....PC / Xbox One X
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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
Yeah, I follow what you're saying Tim, and you're right, no developer is ever going to put all the biscuits in one sack. One thing I'm seeing taking place here in the last 18 months is a new trend developing in golf game development, where the developer puts a somewhat playable version of their game on the market, raises a little capital, yet continues to groom the product toward their ultimate design goal. This started with The Golf Club, continued with Perfect Golf, and now is continuing (at least in my opinion) with Rory McIlroy PGA Tour.
Nearly eighteen months in, The Golf Club still hasn't matured to what it should be, Perfect Golf probably started off earlier this year even further behind its ultimate goal and seems to be on as slow a curve as The Golf Club in getting there. I don't think anyone could make an argument that at this point RMPGAT is close to what its creators have in mind for it when it reaches maturity. What we don't know yet is how aggressive EA Sports will be in nurturing it through these early growth pangs. The first update for RMPGAT is should be a pretty good indicator as to how they're reacting to the feedback they're getting.
I'll concede that RMPGAT can be made to provide a challenge in Tour Custom mode; it just feels a bit quirky and twitchy in execution to me. Everyone will have their own set of expectations for how the game should feel, and I'm just one of those for whom the game is not quite there yet. As I've said before, I'm a HUD device minimalist, and RMPGAT is not at its minimum. I'm asking for less help from the HUD devices, and I can't for the life of me see why it's not possible to just flip a switch in the code to give users the option to turn it off.
I'll be onboard with it at some point, but while I'm sitting on the sidelines, I'll be playing The Golf Club and to a lesser degree, Perfect Golf, which as good as it is, doesn't pull me in for long with its 3-click swing, nor its delayed motion swing.Last edited by OnlookerDelay; 07-24-2015, 10:52 PM.Duke Football? Hell yes it's Duke Football! --- Coach CutcliffeComment
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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
My contention is that no console analog sticks will ever be precise enough to provide a realistic 1:1 swing motion for a golf game. They're just way too imprecise and the dead-zones (necessarily) provide way too much buffer to produce the precision and accuracy needed to replicate/simulate a golf swing.
Barring a specialized stick just for golf games (I'll give that a 0% chance) or trackball accessory, I don't think 3-click will be improved upon. Unless, of course, this mouse/keyboard rumor about the Xbox One I'm hearing turns out to be true.Comment
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Re: 3-Click is the new sim mode (Rory PGA)
Probably in the minority again on this, but for the very reasons you listed above, is why I preferred the old non-1:1 method over the new one. These controllers aren't good enough for a 1:1 swing and the design of the interface is too twitchy to make it a realistic feeling swing.
It's a trade off no matter what you use, as the 3 click for me is a necessary evil to get sim gameplay but it's not my favourite. I have loved using analog sticks for anything that makes sense. But if I have to choose a method, I would pick the one that's not 1:1 with a couple of caveats: that you can't hold your swing at the top and get 100% power (looking at you TGC and old school TW games) and that the sensitivity left and right is way cranked up so that it's harder to hit it straight.
As it is though, I enjoy 3 click for offline and tolerate Tour mode analog online but I'm eagerly anticipating the update to it.
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