How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

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  • ncp10
    Rookie
    • Mar 2018
    • 190

    #16
    Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

    Rory is a phenomenal game for H2H play, even w/ its limits. Yes, it's absolutely crippled compared to what it could have been w/ a whole slew more courses and a few players as DLC, and they clearly left it in some ways very unfinished. It was as if they ran out of funds and decided to just plain stop there and not look back. And some things required very minimal tweaking to really get right. Career mode I enjoyed mainly to built my character attributes, but our H2H play is where the game shines if you're a skilled real world golfer. Me and my playing partner have been near scratch players at times in our golfing lives, and one was a successful college player. Subtle control is there for a video simulation, and with swing diff at Hard it can be tenuous and as tenuous as RLG is when set up properly for your skill level. We have settled on Swing Diff at Hard, Advanced mechanics, and we use the putt line but have rules of how it's used. We do not allow the player to move the cursor any closer to the player than its actual putt length. Spin is left off so one does not have to do the impossible diagonal swing to work the ball it was just to hard to do consistently enough. Our scores are ultra-close to what the best of the PGA tour does with this setup which is what we are after. When we changed how the putt line is used this was the game changer that made for realistic scores. I used a method to line up putts that was virtually automatic--not so now. You can have real hot putting rounds, and real cold putting rounds depending in part of course upon the course you're at.

    When that article made this comment, "Arcade-Style Mini Games Are a Must" that was the end of it for me. I want a player's game only--the goofy arcade stuff is for I can't imagine who, presumably someone who goes to play miniature golf.

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    • scagwi
      MVP
      • Aug 2015
      • 2718

      #17
      Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

      @ncp10: Do you guys find you tire of the limited course list ever?

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      • JayhawkerStL
        Banned
        • Apr 2004
        • 3644

        #18
        Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

        Originally posted by scagwi
        @ncp10: Do you guys find you tire of the limited course list ever?
        More is better, but there are plenty to enjoy the game for the price it is now. Chambers Bay is worth the price of admission. Never had a golf course feel so claustrophobic.

        It's a flawed title, and it failed because of those flaws. But it's also got some fantastic gameplay. I think it gots some of the best holes featuring elevation. And while fantasy courses are generally dumb, Treasure Island is actually pretty great. It's not realistic, but it is a challenging fun course to play as you have to choose when to go over or around obstacles, playing on a Pacific Rim island with volcanic mountain.

        If you get it on the cheap, its fantastic. I don't thin EA realizes just how many more copies they wood have sold if it had Country clubs like the TW games, so that we could set up tourneys with friends and such. It would have created more buzz around the game.

        Instead, it mostly feels like a lonely experience. And that's fine, as it is how most golf games really are. It was just disappointing since TW had done a decent job introducing CCs, and I assumed on next gen they would really improve upon it. Instead it just wasn't in the game.

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        • scagwi
          MVP
          • Aug 2015
          • 2718

          #19
          Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

          Is there any chance of the ability to do Head to Head on Rory going away soon?

          Or should we expect that since it's back in the Vault that it's likely to be kept alive and able to do online stuff sort of indefinitely right now (especially as EA has no replacement in the genre)?

          @NCP - I see your point. I've been playing Rory every day again and it really does play a great game of golf when set up correctly. I personally enjoy it most with grids on and zoom off. The camera angles one can rotate through, in conjunction with the overhead map, make for a rewarding and realistic aiming and thought process.

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          • Golfsprince
            Rookie
            • Dec 2010
            • 106

            #20
            Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

            Originally posted by DivotMaker
            Not an accurate statement. By default the game simmed your Career rounds letting you play the final few holes of a tournament.

            However, there is a setting in the CM interface that you could disable the quick play feature and play every hole of every round in Career Mode. That is the first thing I changed when I began CM.

            Agree that Career Mode was a grind in RM. Mostly due to lack of courses and other PGA TOUR specific content that TW14 had in spades.
            No lie, I actually kinda enjoyed the "Quick Rounds" because it put more pressure on me to play well, and win because the rounds were shorter. I didn't have a full 18 holes to make up for my mistakes.
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            • scagwi
              MVP
              • Aug 2015
              • 2718

              #21
              Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

              Originally posted by Golfsprince
              No lie, I actually kinda enjoyed the "Quick Rounds" because it put more pressure on me to play well, and win because the rounds were shorter. I didn't have a full 18 holes to make up for my mistakes.
              Just an FYI, you won't be getting a response as, very sadly, DivotMaker (Tim Scott) passed away.

              Page 1 of 2 - RIP Tim Scott aka Divotmaker - posted in Perfect Golf: I just read today in the HB forums (off topic section) that Tim Scott aka Divotmaker has lost his battle with cancer and passed away. He was a very active and well respected member here as well. Rest in peace Tim.

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              • MrArlingtonBeach
                MVP
                • Feb 2009
                • 4522

                #22
                Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

                Originally posted by scagwi
                Just an FYI, you won't be getting a response as, very sadly, DivotMaker (Tim Scott) passed away.

                http://www.perfectparallel.com/topic...ka-divotmaker/
                Wow...I decided to pop my head back into the Golf boards today and came across this.

                RIP, Tim. Thanks for the insight and conversations throughout the years here.
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                • djep
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1128

                  #23
                  Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

                  Originally posted by scagwi
                  Just an FYI, you won't be getting a response as, very sadly, DivotMaker (Tim Scott) passed away.

                  http://www.perfectparallel.com/topic...ka-divotmaker/
                  Oh wow, that is incredibly sad. I've interacted with Divot through various message boards for over 15 years. Nobody knew more about golf gaming than that guy.

                  RIP Divot.

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                  • kehlis
                    Moderator
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 27738

                    #24
                    Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

                    Originally posted by scagwi
                    Just an FYI, you won't be getting a response as, very sadly, DivotMaker (Tim Scott) passed away.

                    http://www.perfectparallel.com/topic...ka-divotmaker/
                    That's awful to hear. I had no idea.

                    Thanks for letting us know.

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                    • pietasterp
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 6237

                      #25
                      Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

                      Man, I am so very sorry to hear this news.

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                      • speels
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 779

                        #26
                        Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

                        This is terribly sad to hear. I enjoyed the banter with Tim, he will be missed.

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                        • baconbits11
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 2595

                          #27
                          Re: How Future Golf Titles Can Learn From Rory McIlroy PGA Tour's Mistakes

                          Originally posted by djep
                          Oh wow, that is incredibly sad. I've interacted with Divot through various message boards for over 15 years. Nobody knew more about golf gaming than that guy.

                          RIP Divot.

                          Sobering news. Tim really knew his golf gaming and had incredible insights on how to make games better. Even had a great deal of respect for opinions different from his. RIP.

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