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  • VoltSwoosh
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    • Jun 2021
    • 1090

    #211
    Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

    Originally posted by scagwi
    JT GOT GAME!



    Play as JT with our newly updated limited edition hot dog head


    No, first they would have to update it to let you actually play as the pros.

    THEN they could update to let you use the pros with hot dog putters.

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    • scagwi
      MVP
      • Aug 2015
      • 2718

      #212
      Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

      Originally posted by VoltSwoosh
      No, first they would have to update it to let you actually play as the pros.

      THEN they could update to let you use the pros with hot dog putters.
      Oh my. I'm out of touch
      You can't play as any Pro's in 2k21?

      Man ... that must have been a cheap licensing deal

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      • MrArlingtonBeach
        MVP
        • Feb 2009
        • 4523

        #213
        Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

        Originally posted by scagwi
        Oh my. I'm out of touch
        You can't play as any Pro's in 2k21?

        Man ... that must have been a cheap licensing deal
        Pros are not playable in 2K21...they are only shown on loading screens and in canned "highlights" when playing in career mode.

        The pros shown are:

        Billy Horschel
        Bryson DeChambeau
        Cameron Champ
        Gary Woodland
        Ian Poulter
        Jim Furyk
        Justin Thomas
        Kevin Kisner
        Matt Kuchar
        Patrick Cantlay
        Sergio Garcia
        Tony Finau

        I believe I turned off the pro highlights within a week of getting the game, because they were basically all pitch-shot hole outs, and would display the wrong score for the pro most of the time, anyway...haha
        Last edited by MrArlingtonBeach; 05-23-2022, 04:48 PM.
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        • VoltSwoosh
          Banned
          • Jun 2021
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          #214
          Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

          Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
          Pros are not playable in 2K21...they are only shown on loading screens and in canned "highlights" when playing in career mode.

          The pros shown are:

          Billy Horschel
          Bryson DeChambeau
          Cameron Champ
          Gary Woodland
          Ian Poulter
          Jim Furyk
          Justin Thomas
          Kevin Kisner
          Matt Kuchar
          Patrick Cantlay
          Sergio Garcia
          Tony Finau

          I believe I turned off the pro highlights within a week of getting the game, because they were basically all pitch-shot hole outs, and would display the wrong score for the pro most of the time, anyway...haha


          Yep ! And in my ps4, the highlights load sloowwwww

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          • MrArlingtonBeach
            MVP
            • Feb 2009
            • 4523

            #215
            Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

            Originally posted by VoltSwoosh
            Yep ! And in my ps4, the highlights load sloowwwww
            The second reason I shut them off ASAP...haha
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            • scagwi
              MVP
              • Aug 2015
              • 2718

              #216
              Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

              Do we feel like HB can create the game everyone wants?

              Are we hoping 2K ownership also meant some turnover and beefing up the staff at HB?

              I hope 2k didn't just buy them so they controlled them (financially) but otherwise just left HB as is. I always feel the HB golf offerings eventually ran up against their vision/imagination and perhaps even staff ability.

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              • lowpaiddonkey10
                MVP
                • Oct 2017
                • 2163

                #217
                Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

                Originally posted by scagwi
                Do we feel like HB can create the game everyone wants?

                Are we hoping 2K ownership also meant some turnover and beefing up the staff at HB?

                I hope 2k didn't just buy them so they controlled them (financially) but otherwise just left HB as is. I always feel the HB golf offerings eventually ran up against their vision/imagination and perhaps even staff ability.
                Unless I read this wrong I think HB/2k has bumped into the ceiling for this game unless they get a new engine. 21 was a slight improvement over 19.

                I would imagine the ongoing problems with career can't be fixed for some reason.

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                • MrArlingtonBeach
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 4523

                  #218
                  Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

                  Originally posted by scagwi
                  Do we feel like HB can create the game everyone wants?

                  Are we hoping 2K ownership also meant some turnover and beefing up the staff at HB?

                  I hope 2k didn't just buy them so they controlled them (financially) but otherwise just left HB as is. I always feel the HB golf offerings eventually ran up against their vision/imagination and perhaps even staff ability.
                  I know for sure that one person was hired from the TGCT community to help with "level design", which one would assume means course creation and design for 2K23. And knowing who that person is, it would make sense they were brought in to do that kind of work.

                  So they seem to be investing and adding to the team, likely using the increased funding/backing from 2K to do so.

                  As for what they can/cannot fix or what the ceiling is for their golf game, I mean they've basically been using the same engine for this series since 2015 or so. So yeah, they're probably at their limit, at least on last-gen. But the issues 2K21 has seem like ones that should easily be fixed...I mean, AI scoring in career mode is essentially a spreadsheet. Just clean up the coding/data and boom, you're golden. If they can't fix it for some reason, then they have bigger problems they need to look at, IMO. And they never fixed it in 2K21, so maybe that's actually closer to the reality...woof.

                  Graphics are another thing...not sure how much better they can make their game look. Gameplay is always something that can be tweaked and refined, so there could be adjustments with that.
                  Last edited by MrArlingtonBeach; 05-24-2022, 11:28 AM.
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                  • VoltSwoosh
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2021
                    • 1090

                    #219
                    Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

                    Originally posted by lowpaiddonkey10
                    Unless I read this wrong I think HB/2k has bumped into the ceiling for this game unless they get a new engine. 21 was a slight improvement over 19.



                    I would imagine the ongoing problems with career can't be fixed for some reason.


                    I would argue 19 has its advantages over 21.

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                    • MrArlingtonBeach
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 4523

                      #220
                      Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

                      Originally posted by VoltSwoosh
                      I would argue 19 has its advantages over 21.
                      There's a thing or two that 19 may have over 2K21...namely, the solo societies.

                      But in most other ways, 2K21 is better, IMO. More real courses, more actual PGA Tour events (even if career mode is buggy), more versatility in the course designer, more actual golf clothing and gear brands (including Titleist/FootJoy, which was never available to be worn/used by created characters in a game before, as far as I can recall), and in my opinion, better gameplay. I tried going back to TGC19, just to see how it is, and I didn't like how it played, now that 2K21 gameplay is out there. Even the graphics/animations are a pretty sizeable bump up from TGC19.

                      TGC19 can appeal more than 2K21 to certain users, especially for the solo society/offline player. But in most other ways, 2K21 is a much more robust game.
                      Last edited by MrArlingtonBeach; 05-24-2022, 12:05 PM.
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                      • VoltSwoosh
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                        • Jun 2021
                        • 1090

                        #221
                        Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

                        Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
                        There's a thing or two that 19 may have over 2K21...namely, the solo societies.

                        But in most other ways, 2K21 is better, IMO. More real courses, more actual PGA Tour events (even if career mode is buggy), more versatility in the course designer, more actual golf clothing and gear brands (including Titleist/FootJoy, which was never available to be worn/used by created characters in a game before, as far as I can recall), and in my opinion, better gameplay. I tried going back to TGC19, just to see how it is, and I didn't like how it played, now that 2K21 gameplay is out there. Even the graphics/animations are a pretty sizeable bump up from TGC19.

                        TGC19 can appeal more than 2K21 to certain users, especially for the solo society/offline player. But in most other ways, 2K21 is a much more robust game.


                        I think I just prefer 19 because it has a more “Golf Club” feel to it, more like the originals? Also seemingly more customization.

                        Still I prefer EA golf over both.

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                        • lowpaiddonkey10
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 2163

                          #222
                          Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

                          I re-installed 19 a while back played a few rounds and IMO it is not as good as 21.

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                          • VoltSwoosh
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                            • Jun 2021
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                            #223
                            Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

                            Originally posted by lowpaiddonkey10
                            I re-installed 19 a while back played a few rounds and IMO it is not as good as 21.


                            Yeah, I just played it a bit. Maybe I had some rose tented glasses on.

                            There’s some aspects I like 19 better, but I walk back what I said about preferring it overall.


                            Sent from my iPad Pro

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                            • scagwi
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 2718

                              #224
                              Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

                              HB just flat out gave up on forum moderation I guess?

                              Their forum appears to be on the road to the same wasteland the Perfect Golf (Perfect Parallel) forum turned into.

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                              • bigkev
                                Pro
                                • Apr 2019
                                • 911

                                #225
                                Re: It now seems logical we will get PGA Tour 2k23 this year

                                They gave up on the forum, that's all. I'm surprised it's still there, they were supposed to move to 2K... and never did. The last time I went there, it was the same handful writing wall of texts trying to prove who was more hardcore as a know-it-all golfer.

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