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  • mrsaito
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    • Nov 2009
    • 743

    #16
    Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

    I have most of the dlc courses and think it’s a great game (agree that tee shots are too easy) but I can no longer tolerate the load times between holes.

    A bit off topic but has anyone played Rory on a ps 5, any improvements there if you have?

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    • VoltSwoosh
      Banned
      • Jun 2021
      • 1090

      #17
      Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

      Originally posted by mrsaito
      I have most of the dlc courses and think it’s a great game (agree that tee shots are too easy) but I can no longer tolerate the load times between holes.

      A bit off topic but has anyone played Rory on a ps 5, any improvements there if you have?


      They don’t bother me, it’s only like 30 seconds and shows you information that can be interesting at times or the leaderboard.


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      • scagwi
        MVP
        • Aug 2015
        • 2718

        #18
        Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

        Originally posted by VoltSwoosh
        They don’t bother me, it’s only like 30 seconds and shows you information that can be interesting at times or the leaderboard.


        Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

        I agree about the hole loading.

        I've always felt TW14 had a nice sense of "zen" with the music and the scorecard -- allows me to grab a quick drink of water/other....

        A realistic Golf title shouldn't really be about "blasting through it, shot to shot, as fast as possible" -- at least in my view.

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        • VoltSwoosh
          Banned
          • Jun 2021
          • 1090

          #19
          Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

          Originally posted by scagwi
          I agree about the hole loading.

          I've always felt TW14 had a nice sense of "zen" with the music and the scorecard -- allows me to grab a quick drink of water/other....

          A realistic Golf title shouldn't really be about "blasting through it, shot to shot, as fast as possible" -- at least in my view.


          YES! Even back when I first got TW14 and didn’t know too much about golf in general much the less how the Tour worked, I felt something majestic with it.

          And yes, I’d love to see more cutscenes in pga 23, show my guy walking to the next hole, or talking to his caddie. Something!


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          • JayhawkerStL
            Banned
            • Apr 2004
            • 3644

            #20
            Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

            Originally posted by scagwi
            I mean -- "whatever" I guess, as long as we can completely avoid that stuff if we want to.

            Just honestly seems odd to me. It's like having some type of built in cheat/boost in a racing game or something.

            Does nobody value learning how to play a sport/game and earning some accomplishment? Just feels so weird to enjoy essentially "cheating" to score better.
            Honestly, most people play games for fun, and could care less about making it harder. Yeah, I prefer setting up a shot with spin, and paying the price for screwing up. But is it really that hard to understand that seeing where your ball might land, and then trying to adjust it might just be fun? And for younger gamers it’s a good way to teach the value of creating those shots.

            This is absolutely one of those times where OS acts like they are just having a nice discussion, but are making it clear some gamers aren’t welcome.

            It’s why the devs don’t come here anymore. Beyond how they are treated, we run off a lot of their customers.

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            • scagwi
              MVP
              • Aug 2015
              • 2718

              #21
              Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

              Originally posted by JayhawkerStL
              Honestly, most people play games for fun, and could care less about making it harder.
              I’m not talking about making anything artificially “harder”…I’m just talking about faithfully representing the sport/activity in question

              You can’t add “mid air spin” in real life.

              I think it’s fair to be conceptually against that in a golf game aiming for a realistic representation of the sport.

              Also, as I said, I’m not against those modes existing…as long as it’s not something I’m forced to use (which it traditionally hasn’t been)

              All good!

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              • scagwi
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 2718

                #22
                Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

                Originally posted by JayhawkerStL
                But is it really that hard to understand that seeing where your ball might land, and then trying to adjust it might just be fun? And for younger gamers it’s a good way to teach the value of creating those shots.
                Sure…I guess?

                Why can’t you steer the putts then also?

                Perhaps the controller gyroscopes could be used to just “drive” the ball into the hole…like a marble madness game of old.

                What about turbo boosted clubs so you can drive it 650 yards?

                How about 15” diameter cups?

                Lol - all joking aside…

                Like what’s the point, in a realism aspirational game, of following any of the rules or realities of the real sport?

                If we just want fun…one can go bananas here.

                My argument is that there is fun and value and a lot of reward in working to achieve within the rules and physical realities of the sport.
                Last edited by scagwi; 04-05-2022, 06:52 PM.

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                • VoltSwoosh
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                  • Jun 2021
                  • 1090

                  #23
                  TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

                  —Why can’t you steer the putts then also?—

                  You clearly have never played Rory 15s Night Club Challenge! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

                  But yeah, I agree with you all the way.


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                  • scagwi
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 2718

                    #24
                    Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

                    Originally posted by VoltSwoosh
                    Why can’t you steer the putts then also?



                    You clearly have never played Rory 15s Night Club Challenge! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

                    But yeah, I agree with you all the way.


                    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max
                    For real?

                    Could you steer the ball on the green?



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                    • VoltSwoosh
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                      • Jun 2021
                      • 1090

                      #25
                      TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

                      Originally posted by scagwi
                      For real?



                      Could you steer the ball on the green?





                      Crazier, I played it a couple years back out of curiosity. On the battlefield course, one mission I recall has you steering the ball around the island through “Loops” and even has turbo boost!!!

                      Here it is! https://youtu.be/rjqX1mcxkuA


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                      • scagwi
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 2718

                        #26
                        Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

                        Originally posted by VoltSwoosh
                        Crazier, I played it a couple years back out of curiosity. On the battlefield course, one mission I recall has you steering the ball around the island through “Loops” and even has turbo boost!!!

                        Here it is! https://youtu.be/rjqX1mcxkuA


                        Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

                        Lmao.

                        What do we even call that?

                        Sort of golf mixed with pinball and racing with some drone controls?

                        I mean - lmao.
                        Have at it folks if that’s your jam

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                        • VoltSwoosh
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2021
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                          #27
                          Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

                          Originally posted by scagwi
                          Lmao.

                          What do we even call that?

                          Sort of golf mixed with pinball and racing with some drone controls?

                          I mean - lmao.
                          Have at it folks if that’s your jam


                          I was just thinking of what I expected way back when they dropped the Rory reveal trailer… Augusta on frostbite among others with a next gen experience. Instead we got Mario kart golf.

                          It’s no wonder so many basic things like an replay mode were missing , tons of time had to be invested in that stupid mode.


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                          • scagwi
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 2718

                            #28
                            Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

                            Before anyone says I'm "against fun", we should note that all that really is happening in that Rory mode of "driving the ball around" is that the "game" got switched to a racing game (do it as fast as you can).

                            So there's still skill and challenge and something to accomplish.

                            Whereas, with normal golf rules and the physics and realities of it just has different challenges (scoring low through skill of analysis and execution of shots)

                            All good and fine - and both are fun -- just to different audiences.
                            Last edited by scagwi; 04-05-2022, 07:46 PM.

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                            • VoltSwoosh
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2021
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                              #29
                              Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

                              Originally posted by scagwi
                              Before anyone says I'm "against fun", we should note that all that really is happening in that Rory mode of "driving the ball around" is that the "game" got switched to a racing game (do it as fast as you can).

                              So there's still skill and challenge and something to accomplish.

                              Whereas, with normal golf rules and the physics and realities of it just has different challenges (scoring low through skill of analysis and execution of shots)

                              All good and fine - and both are fun -- just to different audiences.


                              Speaking of fun, one mode I’d love to see return is “Battle Golf” from TW 09. It lets you play against and watch the ai(Another thing absent in Rory 15), or play against a real person and whoever wins the hole removes a club from the opponents bag. That gets interesting really fast.


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                              • JayhawkerStL
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 3644

                                #30
                                Re: TW14 is ALMOST perfect to me…

                                If steering the putts would drive sales, they would add it. And if the feature was actually fun in that Nightclub mode, they would have.

                                I never talk about the RTTS type modes you see in sports games now. I find them really annoying. I could go on a rant about all the ways they fail to be realistic and fair to me, and about how terrible of a mode they are. Or I could skip those modes, and assume those playing them are having fun.

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