EA Sports PGA Tour Performance Option

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Would you settle for a resolution of 1080p if that's what it took for a 60 FPS Performance option in EA Sports PGA Tour on the PS5 and XBox Series X versions?

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Just curious here... how many of you are like me and have at least a halfway decent gaming PC and an XBox Series X or PS5, and are trying to decide between the two for this game? I tried an experiment with PGA TOUR 2K23 today on my PC. I left the game at 1080p, but cut the refresh rate to 30 Hz, locking the frame rate at 30 FPS. Since my PC can maintain 60 FPS with the refresh rate set to 60 Hz, I knew it would be a smooth 30 FPS.

It turns out that that yes, the animation was smooth, but I got a strong impression of feeling like I was swinging the club underwater. It really hurt my touch around the green where the club always felt like it was painfully chasing my my stick motion. I shot a 39 on the front nine of Bay Hill at 30 FPS, then switched to 60 Hz/ 60 FPS for the back nine and shot 31. This experience solidified my desire for 60 FPS in ways that aren't all quantifiable.

I have the benefit of being an EA Access member so I'll get to test both versions before making a decision. I just can't see a 4K, 30 FPS XBox Series X version floating my boat like a 1080p, 60 FPS PC version will, but I'm more tactile than visual.

[TheBrew101]

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I would not. I feel like that would essentially give us Rory graphics.

I think it is fine if they give option but would not choose that over 30fps 4K personally.

I used to mess around constantly with my PGA 2K21 on computer. I understand exactly what you mean by swinging under water and get why some would hate that. I remember creating custom resolutions for PGA 2K21. My GPU was only a 6GB 1060 which is now really outdated. But I believe I finally settled on a resolution around 1440P level for PGA 2K21 and I would get FPS around 40-45. That to me was a good sweet spot with visuals vs playability with the PC hardware I had.

As an aside, I later bought that game for PS5. I didn't really notice much visually from the 1440Pish resolution I was using on PC vs PS5. I did have a smoother swing on PS5 though when they added 60FPS.

I wish they would give us options like on PC. But I would not want to be forced to play in 1080P on my PS5/Series X.

[scagwi]

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It would definitely be nice to see 1440/60 or maybe 1080/60 as some options on consoles.

For the moment, I’m not getting too wrapped around the axle about any of it until I see if I even like the gameplay

If this doesn’t play a heck of a lot better, more challenging and varied…and more fun…than Rory, I won’t even be interested past just checking out the courses for the visuals

[lions67]

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My own feelings is that 30fps is “ok” and it wouldn’t really bother me much if at all really.
It’s the rest of it though.
Things we have already talked about a zillion ( is that even a number ? Lol ) times already so I won’t rehash those.

Hope the delay is being used to address some of those.

[jbd345]

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No, the game still needs to look “next gen” 1080p would take that away. If controls are fluid and responsive fps isn’t much of an issue for me.

[DaveMN]

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IMHO there's no excuse for any new release NOT to run smoothly at 4K 60fps on the latest console hardware.

[MaouYumisu]

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I'd take 720p if it meant consoles get solid 60fps.

[Von Dozier]

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Performance, always.

[scagwi]

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Just curious here... how many of you are like me and have at least a halfway decent gaming PC and an XBox Series X or PS5, and are trying to decide between the two for this game?

I'm no longer trying to decide.

Since we are having this conversation at all (about performance), it tells me that one should go with the platform that has the most potential resources to throw at it.

That will always be PC and so I'm going with that.

The only thing that would sway me to something like PS5 is if they did the work to take advantage of that controller in some unique ways. To this point we've heard absolutely nothing to that effect, and so I assume the controller experience will be basically identical on each platform.

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No, the game still needs to look “next gen” 1080p would take that away. If controls are fluid and responsive fps isn’t much of an issue for me.

I totally get this perspective and I'm glad you expressed it. 4K definitely is the cornerstone of next generation gaming and if you're not getting it you don't really feel like you're getting what you paid for with your next-gen console.

In reviewing the way I framed the poll question, I realized that I didn't pose it in a way that really describes my intent. I'm really asking those who want a performance option - IOW 60 FPS - what would you be willing to sacrifice to get it? I would be willing to go down to 1080p to achieve it, but I realize I'm much more wired for 60 FPS than most people.

In my experience, playing PGA TOUR 2K23 in a solid 60 FPS on my PC @ 1080p has resulted in an 8.2 average strokes lower per round difference over PGA TOUR 2K23 on my Series X, which seems to vary between 30 and 60 FPS. I enjoy the gameplay enough at 1080p/60 FPS to offset the poss of image quality, but I recognize that isn't going to be the case with everyone.

2K appears to have trimmed some graphics details and enhancements for 2K's performance mode option, but they appear to have kept the red at 4K. It looks good, but I can feel inconsistancies in the framerate that adversely affect my swing a significant amount of the time.

[fsufan4423]

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Just curious here... how many of you are like me and have at least a halfway decent gaming PC and an XBox Series X or PS5, and are trying to decide between the two for this game? I tried an experiment with PGA TOUR 2K23 today on my PC. I left the game at 1080p, but cut the refresh rate to 30 Hz, locking the frame rate at 30 FPS. Since my PC can maintain 60 FPS with the refresh rate set to 60 Hz, I knew it would be a smooth 30 FPS.

It turns out that that yes, the animation was smooth, but I got a strong impression of feeling like I was swinging the club underwater. It really hurt my touch around the green where the club always felt like it was painfully chasing my my stick motion. I shot a 39 on the front nine of Bay Hill at 30 FPS, then switched to 60 Hz/ 60 FPS for the back nine and shot 31. This experience solidified my desire for 60 FPS in ways that aren't all quantifiable.

I have the benefit of being an EA Access member so I'll get to test both versions before making a decision. I just can't see a 4K, 30 FPS XBox Series X version floating my boat like a 1080p, 60 FPS PC version will, but I'm more tactile than visual.

I have a PS5, Series X, and a 4090 PC build and would never choose console over PC unless its console only. I can't bring myself to buy console games at full price. I recently bought Horizon Forbidden West, Ghost of Tsushima, and GT7 for a $120 at Best Buy on sale and struggled to do that.

Having to choose between performance and quality with so called Next Gen is crazy.

Sony and Microsoft should be ashamed of how the marketed these consoles. They are not 4K capable consoles at decent framerates for the most part. I'm not sure what the developers can do. I will say this though, EA should be able to get a "Golf game" to run at 60 fps at some compacity.

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Performance, always.

You're one of me!

[TheBrew101]

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I'm curious as to how many "appearing" trees we will see due to distance and performance. On Rory it was a bit annoying to see the trees pop up as the camera followed the ball (the trees weren't drawn on screen until the camera got close). This happens in 2K as well though seems less distracting on 2K23 PS5.

I'm sure there is a balancing act for them with this as well for frame rate, playability and visuals.

This game is probably best suited for those with great PC's (pending how the online stuff works out with player base if cross play isn't a thing).

Should be interesting to see in a month how this plays out.

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I'm no longer trying to decide.

Since we are having this conversation at all (about performance), it tells me that one should go with the platform that has the most potential resources to throw at it.

That will always be PC and so I'm going with that.

The only thing that would sway me to something like PS5 is if they did the work to take advantage of that controller in some unique ways. To this point we've heard absolutely nothing to that effect, and so I assume the controller experience will be basically identical on each platform.

I'm about 95% sure I'll be buying the PC version after testing both of the under EA Access. I haven't felt the need to do any upgrading to my PC since I bought a Geforce GTX 1070 8GB graphics card three years ago, but this one might tempt me. I've got an i5-4440 CPU in my PC.

Game-Debate.com has a hardware comparison table that shows me I would see a 35% CPU performance boost by going with the top CPU (i7-4770 3.4 GHz) I can install on my motherboard. I don't know what that would translate to in terms of the overall performance boost of my PC. I can buy an i7-4770 for $99, but would I be able to see $99 worth of improvement over my i5-4440? Who knows... I'd imagine I'd see some difference, but would it be enough to allow me to go from 1080p to 1440p on my PC, and still maintain 60 FPS? I wouldn't know until I try.