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  • jd@os
    Roster Editor
    • Jul 2007
    • 3716

    #16
    Re: PGA 2k25 2025

    Originally posted by jbd345
    I understood your point perfectly fine. You’re making it to be a golf game needs to have celebrities and other athletes to survive. It doesn’t. I’m pretty sure EA and 2k know what market they are selling too and adjust those number accordingly. Caitlyn Clark is a hot topic. She wasn’t even a thought when we don’t even have a roster of actual pga and lpga pros yet.

    All I am saying is, golf games don’t need to celebrities and other athletes to survive. The 100 nba or wnba fans they might bring over aren’t the core audience they’re marketing towards and shouldn’t be.
    You don't understand me perfectly fine, because I never made it to be that a golf game NEEDS to have celebrities and other athletes to survive. Never once said that. You're arguing with me on things I never said.

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    • jd@os
      Roster Editor
      • Jul 2007
      • 3716

      #17
      Re: PGA 2k25 2025

      Since this is a TLDR post, just read this part:
      Maybe I should have said, "Golf is super niche in the eyes of an EA" instead of "golf is a niche spot in the world of sports video gaming" lol.

      If this is not a TLDR post, let me clarify what I was saying since I re-read this thread today.
      Post #5: I simply wondered if 2K25 would have CC and said it would be a "nice addition" since 2K23 had Curry and Jordan from 2K23. I never said nor implied that it "needs to have celebrities and other athletes to survive".

      Post #9: I don't think "we" want pro basketball players in a golf game, but I simply explained why 2K does/did it. I never said it "needs to have celebrities and other athletes to survive". Please read why....

      ....1) Additions: I think the WNBA is a nice addition to NBA 2K25, but they don't need it to survive.

      (I was actually going to download a roster from a creator I support but couldn't bring myself to do it--don't watch it, and couldn't play it.)

      ....2) Things we don't need: NBA 2K has the city, park, etc--things I have never played and many people on OS criticize and make fun of, but here is part of the disconnect on this thread:
      Just because I can explain why someone or some company does something, that does not mean I think it needs it to survive.

      I can explain why the WNBA is in NBA 2K, but that doesn't mean I'm telling you they can't sell copies without it.
      I can explain to you why NBA 2K has a park, a city, and motor scooters, but that doesn't mean I'm telling you they can't sell copies without it.
      I can tell you why 2K has crossovers in their different titles, but that doesn't mean I'm telling you they can't sell copies without it.

      There was no pot stirred, and as I alluded to before, look at the number of viewers on the OS golf board. You're kidding me and I'm kidding you if I'm gonna waste my time stirring a pot that has a few people looking lol. Look at my join date--too old for that crap, and also too old to be throwing accusations around to people who are supposed to make up a COMMUNITY.

      I see why someone wanted to leave this board in the past, but I'm glad he didn't, and I'm glad I could clear up any misconceptions from anything I said. If CC is a hot topic for anyone, may November cool you off because I was just wondering if the chick was gonna be in 2K25 or not.

      If you lasted this long, hopefully you read what I said instead of reading into what I said. Thanks.

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      • jbd345
        MVP
        • Apr 2011
        • 2436

        #18
        Re: PGA 2k25 2025

        Originally posted by jd@os
        Since this is a TLDR post, just read this part:
        Maybe I should have said, "Golf is super niche in the eyes of an EA" instead of "golf is a niche spot in the world of sports video gaming" lol.

        If this is not a TLDR post, let me clarify what I was saying since I re-read this thread today.
        Post #5: I simply wondered if 2K25 would have CC and said it would be a "nice addition" since 2K23 had Curry and Jordan from 2K23. I never said nor implied that it "needs to have celebrities and other athletes to survive".

        Post #9: I don't think "we" want pro basketball players in a golf game, but I simply explained why 2K does/did it. I never said it "needs to have celebrities and other athletes to survive". Please read why....

        ....1) Additions: I think the WNBA is a nice addition to NBA 2K25, but they don't need it to survive.

        (I was actually going to download a roster from a creator I support but couldn't bring myself to do it--don't watch it, and couldn't play it.)

        ....2) Things we don't need: NBA 2K has the city, park, etc--things I have never played and many people on OS criticize and make fun of, but here is part of the disconnect on this thread:
        Just because I can explain why someone or some company does something, that does not mean I think it needs it to survive.

        I can explain why the WNBA is in NBA 2K, but that doesn't mean I'm telling you they can't sell copies without it.
        I can explain to you why NBA 2K has a park, a city, and motor scooters, but that doesn't mean I'm telling you they can't sell copies without it.
        I can tell you why 2K has crossovers in their different titles, but that doesn't mean I'm telling you they can't sell copies without it.

        There was no pot stirred, and as I alluded to before, look at the number of viewers on the OS golf board. You're kidding me and I'm kidding you if I'm gonna waste my time stirring a pot that has a few people looking lol. Look at my join date--too old for that crap, and also too old to be throwing accusations around to people who are supposed to make up a COMMUNITY.

        I see why someone wanted to leave this board in the past, but I'm glad he didn't, and I'm glad I could clear up any misconceptions from anything I said. If CC is a hot topic for anyone, may November cool you off because I was just wondering if the chick was gonna be in 2K25 or not.

        If you lasted this long, hopefully you read what I said instead of reading into what I said. Thanks.
        Dude, I let it go and didn’t reply to your last post, why continue it?
        Last edited by jbd345; 11-19-2024, 09:40 AM.

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        • scagwi
          MVP
          • Aug 2015
          • 2718

          #19
          Re: PGA 2k25 2025

          I just really wonder if adding some roster updates and content tweaks to the same, pretty old at this point, game is going to really move any units here.


          With no major graphical updates, they aren't going to convert very many from EA's game, which already looks much better


          (subjective, I guess, but I think most folks think the EA game looks better)

          For me, at least, I'm more likely to move over to a VR golf game at this point if all they are going to do is keep milking the old graphics. It's just so uninspiring at this point in time, in nearly 2025
          Last edited by scagwi; 11-19-2024, 10:12 AM.

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          • MrArlingtonBeach
            MVP
            • Feb 2009
            • 4530

            #20
            Re: PGA 2k25 2025

            My assumption is that there will be some incremental updates to PGA 2K25/6.

            They'll hopefully use an updated version of Unity, but I'd guess there will still be a last-gen release for the game. So improved graphics, but definitely not on par with what could be done if they'd focus on current-gen only and/or go all-in on using a totally new engine.

            From some chatter elsewhere, it sounds like they will be focusing on the course designer to some extent. IMO, they need to put A LOT of effort into that part of the game, as the user created courses are a huge differentiator to what other golf games in the space currently offer. And there have been minimal improvements added to it over the last 10 years. Most of the innovation comes from the users themselves trying to find ways of modifying the same assets and stretching the limits of the same system that has been around since The Golf Club.

            The EA devs that came over to 2K need to be allowed to focus on the single player experience. Career Mode in 2K is fun for like one season. Rivals get old, sponsors are pointless after you complete them, etc. They also need to find a way to allow user courses to be imported into career mode for non-official events. It makes zero sense that a fake representation of a major gets locked into a course, like they do in 2K23. Playing Pinehurst No. 2 every year in the "Northwest Open" is silly, especially when they let us switch out courses for that event even after Pinehurst's release in the game. You could have a rotation of Pebble, Torrey, and Pinehurst - and then they took it away.

            I feel the other notable update will be cross-platform societies.
            Orbis Non Suficit

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            • bigkev
              Pro
              • Apr 2019
              • 911

              #21
              Re: PGA 2k25 2025

              I'm not worried about 2K25/6, it's going to sell. So many players have left EA, just looking at results of tournaments. Just scoring top 100 won't give you top 20% on weekly tournaments. The way their online mode is set up, it's deserted depending of what's on that day.


              Edit: -19 tied for 66th didn't make top 20%. So far from the 1000 players of months past.
              Last edited by bigkev; 11-19-2024, 12:44 PM.

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              • scagwi
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 2718

                #22
                Re: PGA 2k25 2025

                Hmm


                Color me skeptical I guess


                Most of the time we talk about things here that many of us "want" as opposed to what they actually seem to "do" - lol


                Love to be shocked with a major update!

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                • OnlookerDelay
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 3445

                  #23
                  Re: PGA 2k25 2025

                  I'm skeptical that they'll do anything with the interface that makes the swing mechanic convey a more intuitive feel between the stick motion, the animation, and the shot result. After over two years of play, this current swing mechanic hasn't convinced my senses that tempo correlates to hook/slice, and swing path to pull/push. My senses keep telling me that the opposite should be the case, but 2K is so convinced that gamers have a better chance of nerfing the game by selectively negating or dampening the swing path, where hook/slice is better determined in the natural world.

                  I hope there will be an option to have swing path determine hook/slice, at least in non competitive online modes.

                  I also hope they'll offer an option to turn vsync off so PS5 and XBox Series X owners with VRR capable displays can experience the benefits of VRR in the game. This isn't a subject that makes for common discussion, but it's one that I think sorely needs to be addressed, considering how little work it takes to enable it in the game. The consoles and the compatible displays already have all the hardware needed to do it, all 2K has to do is open up the conduit via a couple of lines of code to enable them to work together!
                  Duke Football? Hell yes it's Duke Football! --- Coach Cutcliffe

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                  • jd@os
                    Roster Editor
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 3716

                    #24
                    Re: PGA 2k25 2025

                    Originally posted by jbd345
                    Dude, I let it go and didn’t reply to your last post, why continue it?
                    You let it go, yet you're asking me a question about it:
                    "Why continue it?"

                    You asked me a question about it, yet I already and literally explained why:
                    to "clarify what I was saying" and to "clear up any misconceptions from anything I said".

                    In other words, that was me taking ownership of something I may have said that wasn't clear.

                    How about we all let it go after we all share a laugh at the fact that someone can say, "Golf is super niche in the eyes of an EA", and we like that post.....yet when I say, "golf is a niche spot in the world of sports video gaming", we vehemently disagree....


                    Last edited by jd@os; 11-19-2024, 03:12 PM.

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                    • jd@os
                      Roster Editor
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 3716

                      #25
                      Re: PGA 2k25 2025

                      Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
                      The EA devs that came over to 2K need to be allowed to focus on the single player experience. Career Mode in 2K is fun for like one season. Rivals get old, sponsors are pointless after you complete them, etc. They also need to find a way to allow user courses to be imported into career mode for non-official events. It makes zero sense that a fake representation of a major gets locked into a course, like they do in 2K23. Playing Pinehurst No. 2 every year in the "Northwest Open" is silly, especially when they let us switch out courses for that event even after Pinehurst's release in the game. You could have a rotation of Pebble, Torrey, and Pinehurst - and then they took it away.

                      I feel the other notable update will be cross-platform societies.
                      I don't want to make to much of that move but then again I hope it proves to be significant in some way.

                      Mike Wang left 2K for EA, and if you remember, NBA Live 10 was deemed a success by many (of course he returned to 2K).

                      I think the guys from CFBR who were hired by EA are responsible for some of the good things we see from College Football 25.

                      So yes, bring guys who bring their ideas--especially if they worked in other games.

                      Couldn't agree more about Career Mode--really enjoyed it, and I remember once I leveled my golfer out at 50, I couldn't find anything else to play for (which is partly my fault if not entirely).

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                      • golfnut67
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2021
                        • 860

                        #26
                        Re: PGA 2k25 2025

                        Sorry for the double post here, but I'm not sure which of the two 2k25 forums are going to take off here as the main discussion thread, but I'm really curious if anyone knows the answer to my question at the end of this:

                        >My take on the new 2K game remains the same--if it's not on a new engine, I'm not interested. But if there is some sort of "upgrade" to the Unity engine, combined with this very important tweak for me, I will at least take a look at it:

                        They *must* add a way to control the speed of the swing. It's just ridiculously whipsaw fast to me after playing so much EA. EA needed the same feature, where you could speed their swing up a bit, and I don't see how it would be that hard to create a macro tweak for the swing of either game (even though EA is dead it seems), to just speed up or slow down the *entire* speed and tempo of the swing animation.

                        It's not anything to do with changing how the swing interacts with the controller, or how it strikes the ball, the outcome, none of that. Just a simple slider setting that lets you slow down the full animation of the swing.

                        Is that harder to do than I'm picturing?>

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                        • ncp10
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 193

                          #27
                          Re: PGA 2k25 2025

                          Originally posted by jbd345
                          Her swing and shank off the first tee the other day just shows she has no business being on the LPGA.


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                          • OnlookerDelay
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3445

                            #28
                            Re: PGA 2k25 2025

                            I was hoping to come in here today and see that 2K had made a surprise, New Year's Day announcement about PGA TOUR 2K25's eminent release.... guess not.
                            Duke Football? Hell yes it's Duke Football! --- Coach Cutcliffe

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                            • jbd345
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 2436

                              #29
                              Re: PGA 2k25 2025

                              Originally posted by OnlookerDelay
                              I was hoping to come in here today and see that 2K had made a surprise, New Year's Day announcement about PGA TOUR 2K25's eminent release.... guess not.
                              2 months out from announcement to release seems to be the norm for sports releases. I guess probably by the end of the month for an announcement.

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                              • OnlookerDelay
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 3445

                                #30
                                Re: PGA 2k25 2025

                                Originally posted by jbd345
                                2 months out from announcement to release seems to be the norm for sports releases. I guess probably by the end of the month for an announcement.
                                Your estimate is grounded in history. I think you're right.
                                Duke Football? Hell yes it's Duke Football! --- Coach Cutcliffe

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