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  • talavak
    Rookie
    • Aug 2002
    • 98

    #1

    NC05 How do you get speed

    I have the max upgrades for my Cup car and I still can not stay with the field at Daytona or Talleadega. Any ideas? I have changed just about every setting possible and still can not keep up with the pack.

    Thanks.
  • Eurodawg
    Banned
    • Jul 2004
    • 308

    #2
    Re: NC05 How do you get speed

    drafting is your friend

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    • Eurodawg
      Banned
      • Jul 2004
      • 308

      #3
      Re: NC05 How do you get speed

      drafting is your friend

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      • wawasman
        P*ng
        • Mar 2003
        • 1531

        #4
        Re: NC05 How do you get speed

        drafting is definnitely the key....the only setupu changes i make on those two tracks is to set the tire pressure at 30......then just draft, draft, draft.....i havnet had a problem staying near the front so far, havent won one yet though

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        • wawasman
          P*ng
          • Mar 2003
          • 1531

          #5
          Re: NC05 How do you get speed

          drafting is definnitely the key....the only setupu changes i make on those two tracks is to set the tire pressure at 30......then just draft, draft, draft.....i havnet had a problem staying near the front so far, havent won one yet though

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          • talavak
            Rookie
            • Aug 2002
            • 98

            #6
            Re: NC05 How do you get speed

            It is hard to draft if you have followed the Villian vs. Hero route. Guess I bit myself becoming a Villian?

            The Nextel cup cars should be able to exceed 190 even with no draft on the largest tracks.

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            • talavak
              Rookie
              • Aug 2002
              • 98

              #7
              Re: NC05 How do you get speed

              It is hard to draft if you have followed the Villian vs. Hero route. Guess I bit myself becoming a Villian?

              The Nextel cup cars should be able to exceed 190 even with no draft on the largest tracks.

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              • wawasman
                P*ng
                • Mar 2003
                • 1531

                #8
                Re: NC05 How do you get speed

                well, i just got my first Cup ride last night and ran Daytona......its a Dodge, #91 Levi Strauss...anyway, its a 1-star ride and it got up to 192 on the backstretch during qualifying, and i finished second to Jeff Gordon in the race, because i was waiting til the final lap to try and pass him and a caution flew and ended the race right then and there with two laps to go.....guess i should make my move earlier next time lol

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                • wawasman
                  P*ng
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1531

                  #9
                  Re: NC05 How do you get speed

                  well, i just got my first Cup ride last night and ran Daytona......its a Dodge, #91 Levi Strauss...anyway, its a 1-star ride and it got up to 192 on the backstretch during qualifying, and i finished second to Jeff Gordon in the race, because i was waiting til the final lap to try and pass him and a caution flew and ended the race right then and there with two laps to go.....guess i should make my move earlier next time lol

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                  • TCrouch
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 4819

                    #10
                    Re: NC05 How do you get speed

                    Originally posted by talavak
                    It is hard to draft if you have followed the Villian vs. Hero route. Guess I bit myself becoming a Villian?

                    The Nextel cup cars should be able to exceed 190 even with no draft on the largest tracks.
                    Not sure how much you follow racing, but Cup cars run restrictor plates at Daytona and Talladega to prevent exactly that. You're not going to be hitting 190 by yourself, and they don't come close to that in real life on their own...qualifying pole position times are generally in the 185-188mph range.

                    And yes, if you're a villain you won't have many friends trying to draft.

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                    • TCrouch
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 4819

                      #11
                      Re: NC05 How do you get speed

                      Originally posted by talavak
                      It is hard to draft if you have followed the Villian vs. Hero route. Guess I bit myself becoming a Villian?

                      The Nextel cup cars should be able to exceed 190 even with no draft on the largest tracks.
                      Not sure how much you follow racing, but Cup cars run restrictor plates at Daytona and Talladega to prevent exactly that. You're not going to be hitting 190 by yourself, and they don't come close to that in real life on their own...qualifying pole position times are generally in the 185-188mph range.

                      And yes, if you're a villain you won't have many friends trying to draft.

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                      • talavak
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 98

                        #12
                        Re: NC05 How do you get speed

                        I follow NASCAR quite a bit and I do see them hit above 190 on the back straits during qualifying.

                        I am thinking of starting the career mode over and try to become a Hero. I would say it is much easier to be a villian, easier to bump your way buy cars, run it hard into a corner then use a car to help you turn. So the Hero approach may take more time to make it to Cup racing but I will give it a shot.

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                        • talavak
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 98

                          #13
                          Re: NC05 How do you get speed

                          I follow NASCAR quite a bit and I do see them hit above 190 on the back straits during qualifying.

                          I am thinking of starting the career mode over and try to become a Hero. I would say it is much easier to be a villian, easier to bump your way buy cars, run it hard into a corner then use a car to help you turn. So the Hero approach may take more time to make it to Cup racing but I will give it a shot.

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                          • TCrouch
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 4819

                            #14
                            Re: NC05 How do you get speed

                            Are we talking about race or qual setups, then? I misunderstood your question to be "the field is leaving me"...in which case, you won't have a hope in hell to hit over 190 on any race setup designed to last a full race. However, I'm still at the 188 or 189 area with no setup tweaks whatsoever, so I'm sure that if you had a perfectly clean line and upped the tire pressure and decreased some drag, you could get over 190. The biggest thing is drafting, and the game seems to have a huge issue with 3rd-to-4th gear ratios on plate tracks....you shift up to 4th and the field outpulls you by a mile. So bad that you lose the draft sometimes, in fact. If you can get by that initial surge, you shouldn't have a problem. I ran Legend AI with no aids, put a few minor tweaks on the setup and qual'd 3rd, placed 2nd after a 24 lapper at Daytona.

                            Regardless, if you're expecting a Cup car to hit more than 190 solo on a race setup, then I'm not sure what to say. It sounds like the root of your problem is that nobody wants to work with you on the track, though.

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                            • TCrouch
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 4819

                              #15
                              Re: NC05 How do you get speed

                              Are we talking about race or qual setups, then? I misunderstood your question to be "the field is leaving me"...in which case, you won't have a hope in hell to hit over 190 on any race setup designed to last a full race. However, I'm still at the 188 or 189 area with no setup tweaks whatsoever, so I'm sure that if you had a perfectly clean line and upped the tire pressure and decreased some drag, you could get over 190. The biggest thing is drafting, and the game seems to have a huge issue with 3rd-to-4th gear ratios on plate tracks....you shift up to 4th and the field outpulls you by a mile. So bad that you lose the draft sometimes, in fact. If you can get by that initial surge, you shouldn't have a problem. I ran Legend AI with no aids, put a few minor tweaks on the setup and qual'd 3rd, placed 2nd after a 24 lapper at Daytona.

                              Regardless, if you're expecting a Cup car to hit more than 190 solo on a race setup, then I'm not sure what to say. It sounds like the root of your problem is that nobody wants to work with you on the track, though.

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