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  • mercalnd
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    • Oct 2004
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    #16
    Re: F1 2019 Will be a June 28 2019 Release

    Originally posted by Godgers12
    How would a driver carousel hurt the F1 brand? That's like the NFL not allowing Madden to allow for trades and FA signings.

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    It's not about the F1 brand but more about the sponsors. In F1,drivers are very closely tied to the sponsors of their teams. So for instance, Red Bull would not want the game to depict Max Verstappen driving for Ferrari and things of that nature.

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    • Godgers12
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      • Dec 2012
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      #17
      Re: F1 2019 Will be a June 28 2019 Release

      Originally posted by mercalnd
      It's not about the F1 brand but more about the sponsors. In F1,drivers are very closely tied to the sponsors of their teams. So for instance, Red Bull would not want the game to depict Max Verstappen driving for Ferrari and things of that nature.
      Then just have them retire and kids from F2 brought up to replace them, then those F2 drivers once in F1 can change teams...

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      • brandon27
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        #18
        Re: F1 2019 Will be a June 28 2019 Release

        Originally posted by Godgers12
        Then just have them retire and kids from F2 brought up to replace them, then those F2 drivers once in F1 can change teams...

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        It still creates the same problem with "drivers" associated with teams/sponsors they don't belong to, or are endorsed to.



        I don't see it ever happening as long as the series is around. F1 is pretty sensitive to that stuff I believe. It'd be nice though.



        What I really want though, is the ability to add an extra team with my own paintjob/sponsor. I get the impression though the folks at F1 wouldn't be on board with that either. To me though, what's the difference if I replace a real driver with myself, or if I add an extra team with one car, or even two.
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        • Lieutenant Dan
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          • Sep 2007
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          #19
          Re: F1 2019 Will be a June 28 2019 Release

          Originally posted by brandon27
          It still creates the same problem with "drivers" associated with teams/sponsors they don't belong to, or are endorsed to.



          I don't see it ever happening as long as the series is around. F1 is pretty sensitive to that stuff I believe. It'd be nice though.



          What I really want though, is the ability to add an extra team with my own paintjob/sponsor. I get the impression though the folks at F1 wouldn't be on board with that either. To me though, what's the difference if I replace a real driver with myself, or if I add an extra team with one car, or even two.
          I'm not sure what the problem would be there either, in terms of displacing a driver especially as you are doing that anyway in Career mode already.
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          • Godgers12
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            #20
            Re: F1 2019 Will be a June 28 2019 Release

            Originally posted by brandon27
            It still creates the same problem with "drivers" associated with teams/sponsors they don't belong to, or are endorsed to.



            I don't see it ever happening as long as the series is around. F1 is pretty sensitive to that stuff I believe. It'd be nice though.



            What I really want though, is the ability to add an extra team with my own paintjob/sponsor. I get the impression though the folks at F1 wouldn't be on board with that either. To me though, what's the difference if I replace a real driver with myself, or if I add an extra team with one car, or even two.
            Makes no sense because some if not all the F1 sponsors also sponsor some NASCAR teams. And iirc the EA NASCAR games had driver retirements and a carousel so I honestly dont think that's the issue. Especially since you're already doing that when you displace a driver in career mode with your self.

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            • brandon27
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              #21
              Re: F1 2019 Will be a June 28 2019 Release

              Originally posted by Godgers12
              Makes no sense because some if not all the F1 sponsors also sponsor some NASCAR teams. And iirc the EA NASCAR games had driver retirements and a carousel so I honestly dont think that's the issue. Especially since you're already doing that when you displace a driver in career mode with your self.

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              I dont believe any Nascar game has had a driver carousel as you call it. I dont ever remember seeing it. I suspect for the same reasons. It's likely due to licensing and brand protection types of things.

              For me, I'm not so concerned about drivers retiring and being replaced, because we'd likely end up with generic names or something anyways. Although with F2 possibly being added that may not be the case. As I said earlier my preference is the ability to create and add my own team. Preferably without having to replace an existing team. I suspect though if they did allow that we'd likely be replacing an existing team to keep the 20 car field intact.

              I do agree though, with the number of drivers that shift around it should be something they consider though when you can run a 10 year career. I think they should be open to that since it's only within career mode.
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              • Godgers12
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                #22
                Re: F1 2019 Will be a June 28 2019 Release

                Originally posted by brandon27
                I dont believe any Nascar game has had a driver carousel as you call it. I dont ever remember seeing it. I suspect for the same reasons. It's likely due to licensing and brand protection types of things.

                For me, I'm not so concerned about drivers retiring and being replaced, because we'd likely end up with generic names or something anyways. Although with F2 possibly being added that may not be the case. As I said earlier my preference is the ability to create and add my own team. Preferably without having to replace an existing team. I suspect though if they did allow that we'd likely be replacing an existing team to keep the 20 car field intact.

                I do agree though, with the number of drivers that shift around it should be something they consider though when you can run a 10 year career. I think they should be open to that since it's only within career mode.
                F1 just a couple years ago had 11 teams (22 drivers) and I believe they've had as many as 14 teams. So having more than 20 cars should not be an issue here. Their yearly team count can fluctuate.

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                • mercalnd
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                  #23
                  Re: F1 2019 Will be a June 28 2019 Release

                  Originally posted by Godgers12
                  F1 just a couple years ago had 11 teams (22 drivers) and I believe they've had as many as 14 teams. So having more than 20 cars should not be an issue here. Their yearly team count can fluctuate.
                  They've had way more than that. Back when I started following in the late 80s there were over 30 cars showing up for any given event. By rule, there was a max of 26 cars allowed to start the race and a max of 30 that could take part in practice and qualifying so there used to be a 30 minute pre-qualifying session on Friday morning at 7:30 am that included all the cars that did not qualify for the previous event. The top four from that session got to participate in the rest of the weekend. The rest were excluded.

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                  • Lieutenant Dan
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                    • Sep 2007
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                    #24
                    Re: F1 2019 Announced, Scheduled to Launch on June 28 - Teaser Trailer & Screenshots

                    That's all interesting information, as I was beginning to wonder in my relatively recent F1 fandom if there was a limit to the number of teams/cars. Sounds like there is room for more on the grid, but it's SOOOOOOOOO expensive to get in and maintain a team.
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                    • Bullit
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                      #25
                      Re: F1 2019 Announced, Scheduled to Launch on June 28 - Teaser Trailer & Screenshots

                      Originally posted by Lieutenant Dan
                      That's all interesting information, as I was beginning to wonder in my relatively recent F1 fandom if there was a limit to the number of teams/cars. Sounds like there is room for more on the grid, but it's SOOOOOOOOO expensive to get in and maintain a team.
                      Here is an interesting article from last year. You all might find it interesting the lack of profit margins most F1 teams face.

                      "It is better to loose money and win, them make money and loose"

                      Formula One auto racing's 10 teams burn through $2.6 billion annually to keep their wheels turning, according to new analysis of their financial statements.
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                      • brandon27
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                        • Aug 2008
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                        #26
                        Re: F1 2019 Will be a June 28 2019 Release

                        Originally posted by Godgers12
                        F1 just a couple years ago had 11 teams (22 drivers) and I believe they've had as many as 14 teams. So having more than 20 cars should not be an issue here. Their yearly team count can fluctuate.

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                        Ahh.. that makes sense then. Wasn't aware of that. Been a motorsports fan in general a long time, only vaguely paid attention to F1 though up until 4 or 5 years ago. Co-incidentally when I got into playing this series. Just always felt like there were 10 teams. When Haas came in, someone went out I thought too didn't they? I just assumed that was "by design".



                        That being said then, yeah, I dont see any reason why they can't give us the ability to add our own 2 car team. Select a Chassis & engine supplier and custom livery/sponsors from a select list in the game or something.
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                        • Lieutenant Dan
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                          #27
                          Re: F1 2019 Announced, Scheduled to Launch on June 28 - Teaser Trailer & Screenshots

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                          • GaloVingador
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                            #28
                            Re: F1 2019 Will be a June 28 2019 Release

                            Originally posted by brandon27
                            When Haas came in, someone went out I thought too didn't they? I just assumed that was "by design".
                            Nope. Haas first season in 2016 had 11 teams. Manor went bankrupt before the start of season '17 though. The current season is only the third consecutive with 10 teams participating.

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                            • Godgers12
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                              • Dec 2012
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                              #29
                              Re: F1 2019 Will be a June 28 2019 Release

                              Originally posted by brandon27
                              Ahh.. that makes sense then. Wasn't aware of that. Been a motorsports fan in general a long time, only vaguely paid attention to F1 though up until 4 or 5 years ago. Co-incidentally when I got into playing this series. Just always felt like there were 10 teams. When Haas came in, someone went out I thought too didn't they? I just assumed that was "by design".



                              That being said then, yeah, I dont see any reason why they can't give us the ability to add our own 2 car team. Select a Chassis & engine supplier and custom livery/sponsors from a select list in the game or something.
                              I think Manor and Haas coexisted for 1 year before Manor folded. Think it was Manor anyway...

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