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  • ExtremeGamer
    Extra Life 11/3/18
    • Jul 2002
    • 35299

    #1231
    Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

    Originally posted by ravens52bears54
    I'm just curious, how much space do these original games take up normally? Not that I have any intention of buying them because most I own on DISC but my hard drive is almost completly full. It's a joke. Nothiong like haviong a 20GB hard drive that is really only 12-13.
    All hard drives are like that. My 60GB for my PS3 lost 5 gigs right from the start as well. My Ipod lost 4 gigs off the top. It's the nature of hard drives.

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    • Altimus
      Chelsea, Assemble!
      • Nov 2004
      • 27283

      #1232
      Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

      Originally posted by Pared
      LMAO

      The 2k Avatars aren't any better!
      They're the worst of all.

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      • ravens52bears54
        Banned
        • Dec 2004
        • 530

        #1233
        Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

        Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
        All hard drives are like that. My 60GB for my PS3 lost 5 gigs right from the start as well. My Ipod lost 4 gigs off the top. It's the nature of hard drives.
        I don't think you understand. I know all hard drives aren't the exact capacity that they advertise. But it's a little ridiculous that, 1) it's only a 20GB to begin with and 2) 7-8GB's are used for 'system files' and related stuff and even after you clear off all of the miscellaneous nonsense the most you can have is 12-13GB. Why on Earth didn't they make it a 27GB hard drive so I could at least have the actual 20GB and not some measely 13GB.

        You don't have that issue with the PS3. Not to emntion that the PS3 hard drive I have is the same as yours and THREE TIMES the size of the advertised size of the 360.

        And don't even get me started on the 360 memory cards. I have one of the old ones that is what, 64MB? But do you know how many MB's are actually usuable? I believe it's 50. What on Earth is the point of that?!?

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        • bkfount
          All Star
          • Oct 2004
          • 8467

          #1234
          Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

          Originally posted by ravens52bears54
          I'm just curious, how much space do these original games take up normally? Not that I have any intention of buying them because most I own on DISC but my hard drive is almost completly full. It's a joke. Nothiong like haviong a 20GB hard drive that is really only 12-13.
          some of them are over 6 gigs, like ninja gaiden black and jade empire. HDD size aside, my main issue is price. These cost $15 off XBL, but you can find most if not all physical copies of these for far cheaper than that in a variety of conditions.

          As for the HDD losing size, it does so for many of the same reasons the ps3 does. Even the 1st xbox did it. From MS's own site..

          The Xbox 360 system reserves approximately 6 GB of space for the following:
          • Approximately 4 GB is reserved for game title caching and for other hard drive-specific game elements for games that support the use of the Xbox Hard Drive.
          • Approximately 2 GB is reserved for use by the Xbox 360 backwards-compatibility software that allows you to play older Xbox titles on the Xbox 360 console.

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          • ravens52bears54
            Banned
            • Dec 2004
            • 530

            #1235
            Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

            Originally posted by bkfount
            some of them are over 6 gigs, like ninja gaiden black and jade empire. HDD size aside, my main issue is price. These cost $15 off XBL, but you can find most if not all physical copies of these for far cheaper than that in a variety of conditions.

            As for the HDD losing size, it does so for many of the same reasons the ps3 does. Even the 1st xbox did it. From MS's own site..
            http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911593
            6 gigs?!? So basically the only people that even have the option of buying these games are people that own Elite's, because as we all know you are forced to buy M$ brand hard drives, very unlike the PS3.

            That second paragraph just reiterates my point. Like I said, if they knew that 6-7 gigs were going to be taken up from the get go why not factor that into the hard drive size instead of screwing over the customer?

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            • bkfount
              All Star
              • Oct 2004
              • 8467

              #1236
              Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

              Originally posted by ravens52bears54
              6 gigs?!? So basically the only people that even have the option of buying these games are people that own Elite's, because as we all know you are forced to buy M$ brand hard drives, very unlike the PS3.

              That second paragraph just reiterates my point. Like I said, if they knew that 6-7 gigs were going to be taken up from the get go why not factor that into the hard drive size instead of screwing over the customer?
              As for the manufactured size, MS doesn't make them. However, that's an issue that could be mentioned for every HDD ever made.

              The 20 gig HDD came out when there was no real need for the majority of space. We're talking about back in 2005. If you used it for only game saves and DLC, you should have probably been fine. However, as XBL expanded, MS had to bump the storage up to a 60 gig HDD, since most people will rather choose to never download large things than pay $150 for a gaming console HDD.

              I did find an article that explains the supply chain MS uses for their 360 HDD's costs them an estimated $100 for the 120 gig HDD. Then they have the remaining $80 to share with retailers and distributors.

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              • Bruins
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                • Mar 2004
                • 6433

                #1237
                Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

                Originally posted by bkfount
                I did find an article that explains the supply chain MS uses for their 360 HDD's costs them an estimated $100 for the 120 gig HDD. Then they have the remaining $80 to share with retailers and distributors.
                Sounds to me like they're getting ripped off.

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                • bkfount
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                  • Oct 2004
                  • 8467

                  #1238
                  Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

                  I've got 2000 MS points, any suggestions?

                  Edit:

                  nevermind, XBLA took care of this for me. Tried some demos, and kept getting notices popping up telling me I got some achievements and that I'd get them by activating. Slick move...

                  got N+, Duke Nukem, and Assault Heroes.
                  Last edited by bkfount; 10-18-2008, 10:10 AM.

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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #1239
                    Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

                    Originally posted by XLR3
                    They're the worst of all.
                    What, you mean you don't like being defaulted to a hot blonde Celtics fan?
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                    • ExtremeGamer
                      Extra Life 11/3/18
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 35299

                      #1240
                      Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

                      YAY!!! I can finally delete those demos and zero gamerscore games that I only played for 2 minutes! yippee!!!

                      http://www.xbox360achievements.org/n...ard-Games.html

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                      • CS10029
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                        • Feb 2004
                        • 4616

                        #1241
                        Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

                        Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                        YAY!!! I can finally delete those demos and zero gamerscore games that I only played for 2 minutes! yippee!!!

                        http://www.xbox360achievements.org/n...ard-Games.html
                        Thats a small, but very welcomed feature. Gets annoying seeing all the games I didn't like enough to buy.
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                        • CaptainZombie
                          Brains
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 37851

                          #1242
                          Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

                          Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                          YAY!!! I can finally delete those demos and zero gamerscore games that I only played for 2 minutes! yippee!!!

                          http://www.xbox360achievements.org/n...ard-Games.html
                          I am glad, I hated that these stayed on my profile.
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                          • ExtremeGamer
                            Extra Life 11/3/18
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 35299

                            #1243
                            Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

                            Originally posted by GeonosisX
                            I am glad, I hated that these stayed on my profile.
                            Just looked, I will be removing 29 games! LOL

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                            • CS10029
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                              • Feb 2004
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                              Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

                              Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                              Just looked, I will be removing 29 games! LOL
                              It's not retroactive Extreme.
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                              • ExtremeGamer
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                                • Jul 2002
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                                #1245
                                Re: Xbox Live Marketplace and Live Arcade discussion Part III

                                Originally posted by CS10029
                                It's not retroactive Extreme.
                                Yeah it is. You're reading about the demos.

                                The My Xbox tab lets you manage your Avatar and profile settings - basically all of the options you find on the current Xbox Guide. Your played games and their achievements are also neatly displayed on the horizontal scroll with a new bonus feature; you can now delete played games you don't want displayed from your list, as long as you have 0 Gamescore on them."

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