Will Sony beat MS to the punch next gen?

[CaptainZombie]

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PSN is missing is party chat/cross game chat. Plus no headsets provided with the console. So there is less communication online.

Another plus for xbox live is free trial provided for ALL xbox live arcade games as soon as they release.

Not exactly, the 4GB 360 doesn't come with a headset.

The nice thing about XBLA games is that they all have demos. I think that all the newer PSN ones do too as of 2 years ago, but before that they weren't required to which was boneheaded.

[mike24forever]

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Wow, what a disgusting lie that turned out to be huh.....

Tell me about it. I hope the next next gen (xbox 720 or PS4) will make that possible. I keep reading developers say, "like Avatar"! That would be amazing in sports games. I hope they can allow improve AI in all games.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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I think from day one microsofts goal with gaming was to create a console that could potentially take cable tv away from cable providers. the money is in XBOX live subs not games.

I expect the next console to be the jack of all trades media center.

This has been the goal since the very beginning when the web tv deal fell through with Sony.

Gate's was never shy about saying he can't care less about video games, it is just an "in" to his "set top box" goal.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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PSN is missing is party chat/cross game chat. Plus no headsets provided with the console. So there is less communication online.

Another plus for xbox live is free trial provided for ALL xbox live arcade games as soon as they release.

Party chat is not a make or break feature, IMO. I am sure it will be in the PS4, but people make it out to be a much bigger deal than it really is. (mainly cause it is NOT there, so it is one of the last gripes to cling to, since every other feature that used to be complained about is matched)

I just Skype it up or Ventrilo with friends if need be. But most are playing the same game regardless.

[Chrisksaint]

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Yeah while would be nice odds are if I want to talk to someone it's only when were playing the same game, so that doesn't make party chat a huge deal for me.

[Skyboxer]

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I wish they'd stop trying to be an all in one media center.
Make a gaming machine, period. I don't need to pay $$$$ for something to do 100 things. I just want to play games.

I'm sure that will not happen as that's where the companies are going to, unfortunetly.

[authentic]

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Nobody can honestly say who will throw the first punch on the next consoles. I think one thing I can say is I don't think it will be any time soon. I think they would like to see technology continue to grow before they release a new system. We haven't even got past 1080 for resolution yet, which could be unreal. Also, I'm sure the new systems will be 3d compatible. I'm sure they will want 3d tv's to be a reasonable price so people can use the technology to it's full power. Another thing to consider is that Sony still has PS2, PS3, PSP, and Vita going strong. Having 5 systems on the market could be a bad idea for Sony. However, I think PS2 is close to the end, even though I know a lot of people who enjoy it still. I, as much as a lot of people would love to have a new console, but it might be best to be patient, because if they release something too soon, we'll just want another one. 2013-2015 I would say is when the next systems come out. As for Sony, I think they need to hit the market first and have a strong start, especially after what happened with the PS3.

[49UNCFan]

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I just hope the most powerful system comes out 1st.Imagine all games built ground up this gen for PS3 and ported to the 360.

[Skyboxer]

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Its not the most powerful system that dictates it but whichever one is the easiest and less costly to program games for.
...and neither system is way over the other one this gen at all if you listen to anyone but the fanboys as they both have things that are better than the other one.

[49UNCFan]

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I haven't seen games graphically like KZ2+3,GOW 3,Heavy Rain,MLB The Show,Infamous 2,or UC2 on the 360.Just look at Final Fantasy.

[CaptainZombie]

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I haven't seen games graphically like KZ2+3,GOW 3,Heavy Rain,MLB The Show,Infamous 2,or UC2 on the 360.Just look at Final Fantasy.

Try Gears of War 3, it comes very close to Killzone 3 graphics imo. I prefer the PS3 due to the controller and exclusives, but Gears looks amazing with the lighting system.

[Skyboxer]

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Try Gears of War 3, it comes very close to Killzone 3 graphics imo. I prefer the PS3 due to the controller and exclusives, but Gears looks amazing with the lighting system.

Yep. every systems "in house game" or single console game better look great or they're in trouble.
In any case most developers say each system has they're strong points and neither is head and shoulders above the other.
The biggest thing I love about the PS3 is the disk storage of the bluray.


As long as we don't have to play the BC game the next go around I'll be ok

[jfsolo]

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I wish they'd stop trying to be an all in one media center.
Make a gaming machine, period. I don't need to pay $$$$ for something to do 100 things. I just want to play games.

I'm sure that will not happen as that's where the companies are going to, unfortunetly.

I loved the PS1 and PS2 for one reason. They both had a ton of great games, in lots of different genres. If you would have told me that I wouldn't buy the PS3 I would have told you that you were on crack. But I didn't buy one.

Sony started off this generation with that "all in one media center" idea in their heads, and that caused them to lose their position atop the mountain, IMO. They finally remembered that great games were what sold consoles, but it was too late prevent them from finishing third this time around.

People are more conducive to the connectivity box idea 6 or 7 years later, but I still believe that great game selection and a reasonable cost will determine the success of their console and if they have a chance to regain the top spot in the US. Being first for Sony is a must too, IMO.

Despite the RR fiasco, Microsoft has create very strong brand loyalty with the 360 for a lot of gamers, especially with a lot of younger gamers, i.e. those under 25. Its going to take some mind blowing early exclusives to get them to abandon MS or to at least add the PS4 to their collection too.

[CaptainZombie]

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Gears is a UT3 engine game, and can be matched with the same engine on the PS3, and in some cases better on the PS3 with the toolsets for it. UT3 had the edge graphically on the PS3 because it worked better with the nVidia chipset and shaders.

They both pump out great stuff, but build ground up, the APIs on the PS3 have longer legs... there has yet to be a game with the texture range and quality of the Uncharted series on the 360, not even the sweet UT engine in Gears, and that is because of how powerful the API is (which is also shared with The Show and other first party titles).

But regardless. For a year head start, and even the $600 price tag, the overall total sales are not that far off, and may be surpassed soon. Sony is still a powerful brand, and their first party title variety has a LOT to do with that. Sure MSFT has Gears, and well, Gears, and well Halo here and there, and well, Gears. Great games, but Sony is proving that third party is no longer the driving factor since both consoles are so evenly matched, it is the first party where people are going to flock... and their investment into that arena now is paying off.

Next gen will be interesting, because I know they will both come out pretty even again... just wondering is MSFT will still invest into new IPs or not, since they seem pretty content with their cable box goals, and lack of anything first party invested right now.

Competition is a great thing for us!

Enigma man, you continue to take posts the wrong way as you have to defend Sony. I never once said that Gears 3 is better than what is on the PS3 or vice versa. We know when something is built from the ground up on the PS3, it is hard to be matched on the 360. I think that Gears 3 comes very close........looking at your gamertag, you haven't played Gears 3 to know how good the game looks running on the 360. My jaw literally dropped as to what e-pic did on the 360 since the only game that comes close to Gears on the 360 imo graphically is Reach with only the exterior levels (I thought the interior levels looked drab and depressing in Reach). e-pic was also able to make any interior levels look amazing with the added lighting and better use of colors.

I agree with you that I'd like to see more from MSFT in terms of 1st party support, that has been a huge downer imo for those that are looking for original IP's that aren't the same rehashes as some 3rd party titles.

[ExtremeGamer]

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This isn't trying to start a system war, but I brought up this topic on Twitter a few days ago and brought a very interesting conversation.

Was MS smarter by not having as many exclusives and relying on 3rd party than us as gamers gave them credit for?

Sony has the better first party lineup, as they also have more of them. We saw a very high profile 1st party title in Resistance 3 absolutely bomb. But Sony also has Killzone 3 and Socom, which are similar titles no matter how you shake it up. Sony also has Uncharted 3 coming this fall, so did having those 2 huge titles kill any R3 momentum and sales?

Does Sony having so many high profile first party games hurt them in the long run, as they end up comepting against themselves and 3rd party.

I don't know the answer, we can only go off sales.

We know MS only has Halo, Gears, Forza and the Kinect stuff really. I could be missing something maybe, not sure, but either way all of MS' exclusive big name titles have sold a lot. Where Sony seems to be hit and miss. It's not a quality thing, as Resistance 3 was loved by critics and the gamers on OS, everyone I talked to said how good it was.

So why didn't it sell? And will this contribute to Sony's strategy on the next system? The not having a first party sans a couple games worked wonders for MS this gen, could backfire next gen. No one really knows. Just found it an interesting discussion and kinda fits in this topic.