Report: New Xbox to Launch in 2013

**Skyboxer** · 11-19-2011, 09:55 AM

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Agree. I had some bad luck also but miraculously I only had 1 360 issue that was fixed free.
My WII video card died and it was replaced(whole system) free by Nintendo. My fatty ps3 ylod'ed and it would have cose 150 to fix. I just bought a slim instead.a k of quality went across all boards for me this gen.
Anyhow like I said, i really need to see something more than prettier graphics.

**Blzer** · 11-19-2011, 12:43 PM

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You all just have to remember that the console is merely a limitation bar for how far the developers can go. Every new generation, more development talent will be required to get the absolute best content out of the games for those systems. Better graphics don't just arrive because you have new consoles. You need great artists along with it. Same goes for the AI, the story for the games, etc.

I just hope these guys are that creative that they can step up for us in these departments when the time calls for it. I'm not digging a 2012 push for either Sony or Microsoft, though.

**Skyboxer** · 11-19-2011, 05:47 PM

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Bottom line is the same ole same ole ...just prettier is not what I'm looking for.

**mestevo** · 11-20-2011, 12:15 AM

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More horsepower means more overhead for things like physics and AI. It's almost impossible for a new console to just be 'prettier'.

**youvalss** · 11-20-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Skyboxer

Bottom line is the same ole same ole ...just prettier is not what I'm looking for.

Agreed. Anyway, I think that the future of gaming is in the motion controllers and/or that virtual reality thing that was trendy a little while ago. Not that I have tried any or would even like to, but it seems to me that at some point that's what gaming will be like. We'll see...

**Skyboxer** · 11-20-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by mestevo

More horsepower means more overhead for things like physics and AI. It's almost impossible for a new console to just be 'prettier'.

Depends on what genre you want the most. I love FB and I'd say its more than fair to say we may not get anything but a prettier same ole same ole FB game. The console doesnt make the games better but rather give good developers a better workbench.

**Pappy Knuckles** · 11-20-2011, 08:12 PM

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Damn, I thought my having gone through six 360's was bad. The failure rate this generation has been terrible. Right now I don't think I'll be an early adopter like I was this time around.

**mestevo** · 11-21-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Skyboxer

Depends on what genre you want the most. I love FB and I'd say its more than fair to say we may not get anything but a prettier same ole same ole FB game. The console doesnt make the games better but rather give good developers a better workbench.

There's a lot that can go into football games that can make them more than just 'prettier', unless you think hardware based physics support, lively interactive sidelines, more realistic representation of referees and the chain gang, etc all simply qualify as marginal and 'just prettier'.

With that mentality I guess I see how some people can just play order games all the time, I'm just not one of those people.

**Skyboxer** · 11-21-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by mestevo

There's a lot that can go into football games that can make them more than just 'prettier', unless you think hardware based physics support, lively interactive sidelines, more realistic representation of referees and the chain gang, etc all simply qualify as marginal and 'just prettier'.

With that mentality I guess I see how some people can just play order games all the time, I'm just not one of those people.

First... I am fully aware of tech capabilities. Pretty "old" when it comes to that.
Second Did you even READ what I wrote?

I said...

"Depends on what genre you want the most. I love FB and I'd say its more than fair to say we may not get anything but a prettier same ole same ole FB game. The console doesnt make the games better but rather give good developers a better workbench."

Now who makes FB games exclusively?? EA.
Which is where my lack of expectations come from as far as FB
games.

**Pared** · 11-21-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by mestevo

There's a lot that can go into football games that can make them more than just 'prettier', unless you think hardware based physics support, lively interactive sidelines, more realistic representation of referees and the chain gang, etc all simply qualify as marginal and 'just prettier'.

With that mentality I guess I see how some people can just play order games all the time, I'm just not one of those people.

Unfortunately, the genre as a whole hasn't proven they are willing to shake up the same formula we've seen for the past 5-10 years or so.

And let's be honest here - EA is whom we are talking about when we talk about football; They asked for this scenario with how they handled their business. Licensed football is their's exclusively and I doubt we will see more games such as Backbreaker or APF come along again. The initial investment is too high and they just don't sell as well as one would like.

I hate the terrible metaphors that permeate throughout the forum but I can't help but feel this one fits:

"You can't make someone a better driver by taking them out of a Civic and putting them in a Ferrari."

Of course, you can hope they look better on the road... but chances are it's the machine behind the man doing most of the work.

**mestevo** · 11-21-2011, 03:25 PM

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I just don't see the point of discussing next gen football in a thread about one of the next gen consoles. There are dozens upon dozens of threads to bash EA in this forum (entire forums for it really), don't see why this has to be yet another. Can we expect the same tired arguments in the PS4 thread?

Threads about how awful NCAA13 and Madden14 are going to be would be closed because they're not relevant and it's judging things before they are even on the radar, how are the posts already saying that EA will continue to make games they wont like over a year from now any different and should remain to derail a thread for pages?

**Pared** · 11-21-2011, 03:45 PM

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He was using a specific example, not bashing EA. You're the only one going on about EA - others are simply explaining you their viewpoint.

Frankly you're making it a bigger deal than it is.

**BlueNGold** · 11-22-2011, 01:51 AM

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I don't think I'm ready for this yet. Just look at all the great games that came out these past few months.

However, I'm definitely ready for a fresh start with sports games.

**Artman22** · 11-22-2011, 09:17 PM

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I honestly can't wait. I hope it does come in the end of 2012

**jmood88** · 11-23-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by BlueNGold

I don't think I'm ready for this yet. Just look at all the great games that came out these past few months.

However, I'm definitely ready for a fresh start with sports games.

If you're not ready, then don't buy it when it first comes out. Microsoft and Sony aren't going to throw the 360 and ps3 away with all the people who own one but it's about time that they get something new out there.

Report: New Xbox to Launch in 2013

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