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  • #15826
    Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42702

    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

    Originally posted by tabarnes19
    Does anybody else notice that surround sound doesn't seem to work right with the ps4?

    Bluray movies work correctly....games and netflix seem to output in 2.1 even though the lights are lit on my reciever. I have a sony 1030 reciever hdmi direct using pcm. Ps3 works correctly.

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    I feel like this would be mentioned a little more, no?

    I also feel like this would have been the first thing I would have mentioned upon three minutes of playing a game on PS4. I would say make sure your settings are correct, but if Blu-rays are operating correctly then I wonder if there's something else to consider.

    Some games have actual audio options to change the surround settings. Do all PS4 games have this possibly?
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    • #15827
      tabarnes19_SDS
      Game Designer
      • Feb 2003
      • 3084

      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

      Originally posted by Blzer
      I feel like this would be mentioned a little more, no?

      I also feel like this would have been the first thing I would have mentioned upon three minutes of playing a game on PS4. I would say make sure your settings are correct, but if Blu-rays are operating correctly then I wonder if there's something else to consider.

      Some games have actual audio options to change the surround settings. Do all PS4 games have this possibly?
      Seems to be fine for Killzone. After researching I guess it impacts certain games like nba2k and battlefield. There seems to be no sound from center channel.

      I didn't notice until I had to reset my reciever settings after my daughter touched some buttons. ...when I was testing I was listening to each speaker and nothing from the center channel.

      I guess Sony is aware.

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      • #15828
        boxboy99
        MVP
        • Feb 2006
        • 2320

        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

        Originally posted by jwilphl
        Anyone have trouble playing blu-rays on their PS4? I did watch one movie successfully, tried a different movie and it would freeze at the 20th Century Fox logo constantly. Had to hard restart the PS4 just to exit the movie.

        I imagine this is a firmware issue, just wanted to make sure it wasn't an isolated incident.
        I also have had issues playing Blu-rays and even with a DVD. Hope they work these issues out with an update.
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        • #15829
          TheGhost215
          Rookie
          • Oct 2008
          • 244

          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

          What I did for the blu ray issue was when it asks to connect to the internet, select no and I can watch any movie with no problem. I had the freezing issur with The Amazing Spider Man.

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          • #15830
            ScoobySnax
            #faceuary2014
            • Mar 2009
            • 7624

            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


            PlayStation 4 Discussion

            Damn. Hate I missed the trade-in deal. I would let 2k ride off in the sunset for $60.
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            Fool me one time that's shame on you. Fool me twice can't put the blame on you. Fool me three times, **** the peace sign, load the chopper let it rain on you.
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            • #15831
              Trapper700
              Pro
              • Oct 2002
              • 629

              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

              Originally posted by tabarnes19
              Does anybody else notice that surround sound doesn't seem to work right with the ps4?

              Bluray movies work correctly....games and netflix seem to output in 2.1 even though the lights are lit on my reciever. I have a sony 1030 reciever hdmi direct using pcm. Ps3 works correctly.

              Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
              OK, here's an important detail about these formats, and I'm going to bold it because I think many will find it useful to know (not trying to be aggressive about it, just want as many people to see this as possible, because the menus don't make it even remotely obvious, which is Sony's fault):

              Linear PCM only provides multichannel surround sound via HDMI. It's not a bug, but a standards thing, optical just won't carry it. You still get sound over the optical connection when set to Linear PCM, but it's a stereo mixdown. If it appears to still be surround, that's because your receiver is applying some ****ty pro logic type of thing to upmix it, which totally sucks.

              Bitstream Dolby Digital and Bitstream DTS are the only settings that give proper 5.1 surround over optical. Or even a proper sub channel for that matter.

              So you can avoid the stuttering/dropping by using Linear PCM with optical, but what you're really doing is turning off surround sound.

              If you're having problems with audio on the PS4, please chime in in this support thread: https://community.us.playstation.com.../td-p/42169325

              Also, a friend made a video demonstrating it, which could help explain it if you deal with Sony in some way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCNhlWOI05A

              I'm not sure if Sony has officially acknowledged the problem, so it would be nice if we could raise awareness a bit.

              edit: My bad, I see you're already doing pcm thru hdmi. Are your settings set properly with HDMI as your primary output? Because I know that if you want stereo mixdown over HDMI, you have to choose optical as your primary output (and set it to whatever surround format). If you want it over optical, set the primary output to HDMI. Maybe you're set at optical as your primary output? There's always a stereo mix being output on whatever you don't have set to primary for some reason.
              Last edited by Trapper700; 01-05-2014, 08:23 PM.

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              • #15832
                ASB37
                MVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 2624

                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                Originally posted by ScoobySnax
                Damn. Hate I missed the trade-in deal. I would let 2k ride off in the sunset for $60.
                You didnt miss anything. It was a mistake that best buy corrected.
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                • #15833
                  tabarnes19_SDS
                  Game Designer
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 3084

                  Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                  Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                  Originally posted by Trapper700
                  OK, here's an important detail about these formats, and I'm going to bold it because I think many will find it useful to know (not trying to be aggressive about it, just want as many people to see this as possible, because the menus don't make it even remotely obvious, which is Sony's fault):

                  Linear PCM only provides multichannel surround sound via HDMI. It's not a bug, but a standards thing, optical just won't carry it. You still get sound over the optical connection when set to Linear PCM, but it's a stereo mixdown. If it appears to still be surround, that's because your receiver is applying some ****ty pro logic type of thing to upmix it, which totally sucks.

                  Bitstream Dolby Digital and Bitstream DTS are the only settings that give proper 5.1 surround over optical. Or even a proper sub channel for that matter.

                  So you can avoid the stuttering/dropping by using Linear PCM with optical, but what you're really doing is turning off surround sound.

                  If you're having problems with audio on the PS4, please chime in in this support thread: https://community.us.playstation.com.../td-p/42169325

                  Also, a friend made a video demonstrating it, which could help explain it if you deal with Sony in some way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCNhlWOI05A

                  I'm not sure if Sony has officially acknowledged the problem, so it would be nice if we could raise awareness a bit.

                  edit: My bad, I see you're already doing pcm thru hdmi. Are your settings set properly with HDMI as your primary output? Because I know that if you want stereo mixdown over HDMI, you have to choose optical as your primary output (and set it to whatever surround format). If you want it over optical, set the primary output to HDMI. Maybe you're set at optical as your primary output? There's always a stereo mix being output on whatever you don't have set to primary for some reason.
                  Yes, I have HDMI as the primary. I have my receiver set to play all sound as A.F.D. auto(plays sound as it was recorded with no added effects).

                  Blueray's play as intended and as I researched I see Killzone plays as intended as well(I tested it...so I know it does).

                  Seems to effect certain games like NBA and Battlefield. Most people probably don't realize its not outputting to center channel because the receiver lights up, or they have some post processing set up that simulates the audio across all channels.

                  I tested my PS3 and everything is still good there. There are threads on the playstation support forum and all over the net about it. Like I said I only noticed it because I was checking my set up, so I am sure others probably have same issue and don't realize it.

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                  • #15834
                    ODogg
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 37953

                    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                    Originally posted by Trapper700
                    OK, here's an important detail about these formats, and I'm going to bold it because I think many will find it useful to know (not trying to be aggressive about it, just want as many people to see this as possible, because the menus don't make it even remotely obvious, which is Sony's fault):

                    Linear PCM only provides multichannel surround sound via HDMI. It's not a bug, but a standards thing, optical just won't carry it. You still get sound over the optical connection when set to Linear PCM, but it's a stereo mixdown. If it appears to still be surround, that's because your receiver is applying some ****ty pro logic type of thing to upmix it, which totally sucks.

                    Bitstream Dolby Digital and Bitstream DTS are the only settings that give proper 5.1 surround over optical. Or even a proper sub channel for that matter.

                    So you can avoid the stuttering/dropping by using Linear PCM with optical, but what you're really doing is turning off surround sound.

                    If you're having problems with audio on the PS4, please chime in in this support thread: https://community.us.playstation.com.../td-p/42169325

                    Also, a friend made a video demonstrating it, which could help explain it if you deal with Sony in some way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCNhlWOI05A

                    .
                    What about if my Xbox One is connected via HDMI, outputting Linear PCM to my TV and then the TV optical out goes to my A/V receiver?
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                    • #15835
                      PVarck31
                      Moderator
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16865

                      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                      I have optical going from my system straight to my soundbar. Am I getting true Dolby Digital? HDMI is just used for video.

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                      • #15836
                        Burns11
                        Greatness Has Arrived
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 7406

                        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                        Originally posted by ODogg
                        What about if my Xbox One is connected via HDMI, outputting Linear PCM to my TV and then the TV optical out goes to my A/V receiver?
                        Depends on the TV as far as I know. Mostly a TV's optical out is to send OTA broadcast's surround to a receiver, but I'm sure some TV's will retransmit the surround from the HDMI in to the optical.

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                        • #15837
                          videobastard
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 3388

                          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                          The playstation plus 30 day trials now stack if you already have a plus subscription. I had two of them that i was planning to giveaway but now i added on two extra months.

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                          • #15838
                            ODogg
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 37953

                            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                            Originally posted by Burns11
                            Depends on the TV as far as I know. Mostly a TV's optical out is to send OTA broadcast's surround to a receiver, but I'm sure some TV's will retransmit the surround from the HDMI in to the optical.
                            I'm pretty sure it is considering some sound effects I've heard but just paranoid from reading that post lol...
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                            • #15839
                              Qb
                              All Star
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 8799

                              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                              After Christmas gift cards and some wheeling & dealing, I have $400 in Best Buy credit for my PS4. Now if they could only get some in stock! I can't tell you how many times I refreshed the PS4 page of their website.

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                              • #15840
                                HustlinOwl
                                All Star
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 9713

                                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                                Originally posted by Kearnzo
                                Is there any talk of a PS4 The Show league? I've never really played The Show online but may on the PS4.
                                Leagues rarely workout in my experience without a true online franchise mode there is no reason to continue. Baseball leagues take a small committed group

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