PlayStation 4 Discussion

[bigbob]

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The last thing I read its online only with no single player .

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That sounds great to me, I rarely offline game.

[LingeringRegime]

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That sounds great to me, I rarely offline game.

I agree. If it is online only they can focus on balance and lag issues.

[mestevo]

Microsoft's "cloud" is nothing new, all they're really providing developers is an alternative, cheap option for scalable dedicated servers. Sony has multiple exclusives on the PS3 that have been using the "power of the cloud" for years. None of the things in Respawn's description of how Microsoft's cloud is different from other cloud service providers is even unique to Microsoft's cloud specifically. The same exact things can be said of any of the cloud service providers. Microsoft's PR is making it sound like the cloud infrastructure isn't possible or isn't being used on other platforms, when that's just not true.

Microsoft is simply pushing this "infinite power of the cloud" business because they have a pretty significant hardware disadvantage. It's gotten so bad that a Microsoft executive was quoted as saying that hardware specs between the two systems are meaningless. Then finished up that interview with, and this is a direct quote, "Did you see Call of Duty, it looks f*cking awesome!" While I agree with that executive that games matter more, it's a bit disingenuous to say outright that hardware differences don't matter to people considering a purchase between two consoles.

I wouldn't be surprised if cloud computing is being used as a trojan horse for the always online "feature". Because if every game uses the power of the cloud, then every game is always online. Just look at Titanfall, even if it did have a single player mode, it would still be an "online only" game.

I'd buy into this line of thinking a little more if Sony was spending hundreds of millions on data center infrastructure too.

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[Trapper700]

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I'd buy into this line of thinking a little more if Sony was spending hundreds of millions on data center infrastructure too.

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You mean like how they spent hundreds of millions in the acquisition of the cloud service Gaikai? Why would it matter, anyway, if companies can always choose to go with Amazon's AWS/EC2 infrastructure, like they did in the last generation?

[mestevo]

You mean like how they spent hundreds of millions in the acquisition of the cloud service Gaikai? Why would it matter, anyway, if companies can always choose to go with Amazon's AWS/EC2 infrastructure, like they did in the last generation?

Is that what Sony is doing? That's kind of my point, people seem to be trying hard to discredit the idea of the cloud, while saying Sony can just do it too while MS spends $700m+ on infrastructure. How much of Gaikai was infrastructure rather than technology, acquihire and patents?

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[bigfnjoe96]

No where has MS claimed that what they are offering via MS Azure, can't be done on other Cloud Service Programs.


It's just seems more convenient that Azure is available for those developing on XB-1 since both are MS Product/services.

That IMO is big upside. No dealing with 3rd party. Deal directly with source.

Right now like I said SONY cannot offer that service to developers, so devs have to find it somewhere else like an AWS or a Rackspace

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[RoyalBoyle78]

That sounds great to me, I rarely offline game.

I hear ya...but $60 for an online game only , ill pass.

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[ffaacc03]

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For those wondering about Sonys new online fee or its lack of focus on online ...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-explains-why-ps-plus-is-required-for-ps4-online-play-6410806

It does not offers any specific number$ on the amount invested (or what), just the notion that the change was due to it been significant enough to warrant a priced service ...

Anyways, having experienced Sonys free service, I am trusting them to supply a similar offering (if not better) and am excitedly looking forward to enjoy the added benefits that come along with PS+.


On another note, more events to entertain us until launch ...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/xbox-one-ps4-coming-to-gamestop-expo-6410861

[p_rushing]

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No where has MS claimed that what they are offering via MS Azure, can't be done on other Cloud Service Programs.


It's just seems more convenient that Azure is available for those developing on XB-1 since both are MS Product/services.

That IMO is big upside. No dealing with 3rd party. Deal directly with source.

Right now like I said SONY cannot offer that service to developers, so devs have to find it somewhere else like an AWS or a Rackspace

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M$ is doing it so they can control it. They can sell the access, collect all the profits instead of having a 3rd party collect the money. They can also force whatever they want on the devs as they have no choice.

[bigfnjoe96]

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M$ is doing it so they can control it. They can sell the access, collect all the profits instead of having a 3rd party collect the money. They can also force whatever they want on the devs as they have no choice.

No developer is "Forced" to use the Azure Cloud Program. As for "Controlling" it I'm not sure what you mean. They own the service. It's been in existance way before the development of the XB-1.

Any way I don't want derail this thread, as it is meant for the PS4

[Skyboxer]

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I think it's cute people still use "M$"....

[TracerBullet]

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Putting this in both threads because it's interesting, Ars Technica on price of the XB1 and PS4 compared to other systems historically:

Spoiler

Both are actually reasonably priced based on history.

Also, an article on how gaming is cheaper than ever before.

[Brandwin]

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I hear ya...but $60 for an online game only , ill pass.

sent from Droid DNA

Not really an issue for me. All FPS are pretty much "online only" games for me because I rarely play their single player.

[bigbob]

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Not to get everyone overexcited or anything, but I had a dream that I played Madden 25 next-gen and it was the best Madden I ever played.

So, interpret that however you want.

[Burns11]

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I'd buy into this line of thinking a little more if Sony was spending hundreds of millions on data center infrastructure too.

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That's only because Microsoft is trying to get in the cloud services game with Amazon and Google, it makes very, very little sense for Sony to try and build a cloud service when they are in zero position to sell it. Sony is much better off using other people's cloud servers.

It's akin to saying Mitsubishi is a better car manufacturer than Toyota because Mitsubishi invested millions of dollars in a manufacturing line for air conditioners and Toyota didn't.

BTW, Gaikai never stated how many servers they owned around the world, probably for the same reasons Google won't tell you. Gaikai runs off of Nvidia Grid, so they would just rent rack space in server farms near higher populated areas.